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Title: NFL > NBA
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 25, 2012, 09:18:19 PM
I mean i already knew this but today it really became reality even more. The celtics game was on but so was the ravens game and the saints 49ers game. I missed almost all of the 3rd quarter today because i was too busy watching the ravens game *Dang chargers choked!*

Its funny to me because the NFL is the only sport where i can watch a team that's not my team and i still really really enjoy it. How do you guys feel about the NFL?

I'm assuming most of you like the NFL but which do you prefer NFL or NBA? I know most of america would say NFL for sure. No contest for me NFL all the way. Still love the celtics tho.

Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: CelticsFan9 on November 25, 2012, 09:33:52 PM
I didn't grow up in a sporty family, so I never really got to experience professional sports until I was in grade school.  I watched Boston beat Miami when Pierce hit that buzzer beater (2010 first round), and I've been a fan of the NBA ever since.

I make a concerted effort to watch other sports, though.  I make sure I watch the Superbowl, World Series, and NHL Finals, just so I know a little bit when I talk to my friends about those sports.  But I really just enjoy the NBA and college basketball and football.  That being said, my friends love the NFL, for the same reason as you do.  Every game is a great game, they tell me.
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: wdleehi on November 25, 2012, 09:43:13 PM
I watch more NFL. 
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: apc on November 25, 2012, 10:02:34 PM

Its funny to me because the NFL is the only sport where i can watch a team that's not my team and i still really really enjoy it. How do you guys feel about the NFL?

i am the opposite, i don't mind watching a non-celtics games if its good match up. NFL, i would only watch my team(Chargers  :'()
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 25, 2012, 10:42:43 PM

Its funny to me because the NFL is the only sport where i can watch a team that's not my team and i still really really enjoy it. How do you guys feel about the NFL?

i am the opposite, i don't mind watching a non-celtics games if its good match up. NFL, i would only watch my team(Chargers  :'()

Your team really let me down today!!! *Patriots fan*
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: Change on November 25, 2012, 10:51:27 PM
Reality is your byproduct of NFL hype machine which dwarfs NBA. 6 days of week you are bombarded (sports tv watchers/sports radio listeners) with NFL talk. They are great at manufacturing fake story-lines accompanied with fake the suspense build up. Every game makes or breaks you season.  ::) So you the consumer naturally want to know the final outcome of this grande build up. Unplug the then you'll know if NFL>NBA is genuine or you are byproduct of the hype.

To a lot of foreigners who aren't exposed to hype machine, they find the game boring as chart below illustrates. All the hype and build up to see 11 minutes of action.

(http://uglyfours.com/storage/TYPICALGAMEWSJ.png?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1348097456394)
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 25, 2012, 10:55:59 PM
Reality is your byproduct of NFL hype machine which dwarfs NBA. 6 days of week you are bombarded (sports tv watchers/sports radio listeners) with NFL talk. They are great at manufacturing fake story-lines accompanied with fake the suspense build up. Every game makes or breaks you season.  ::) So you the consumer naturally want to know the final outcome of this grande build up like. Unplug the then you'll know if NFL>NBA is genuine or you are byproduct of the hype.

To a lot of foreigners who aren't exposed to hype machine, they find the game boring as chart below illustrates
(http://uglyfours.com/storage/TYPICALGAMEWSJ.png?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1348097456394)

Say what now????  ???
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 25, 2012, 10:58:17 PM
Its funny i saw the pictures after i posted my last comment and i think i understand now lol. You're trying to say you find football boring??? That's cool. Football is americas sport i know how outsiders feel about it tho.
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: Change on November 25, 2012, 10:59:16 PM
Say what now????  ???

Basketball>>>
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: JoT on November 25, 2012, 11:02:36 PM
I'm more of a basketball fan but football is entertaining too (on the field and off).
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: Celtics18 on November 25, 2012, 11:03:55 PM
I like football, played it in high school, but I'm a basketball (specifically my Celtics) junkie.  If they are playing a pre-season game on a day where the Patriots have a huge game, or if they are playing a February game against the Raptors on super bowl Sunday, I'll always choose the Cs. 
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 25, 2012, 11:10:04 PM
I kind of figured that's what you were trying to say lol. One more huge reason i like the NFL more, The NBA has BY FAR the worst officiating in all of sports.

The NFL refs and Umpires in MLB are respected. The NBA refs are a complete joke and ruin the game for me. If i didn't love the celtics so much i wouldn't even watch the NBA. That's not the only reason i love football more tho.

To me basketball has to be in the playoffs for it to even remotely come close to just the excitement of watching one NFL regular season game. It is true that every game matters in the NFL. Not so much in the NBA. Its actually hard for me to even put into words on why i think the NFL is great.

Basketball to me is extremely boring but i love the celtics so that keeps my attention. Playoff basketball is where the fun really starts for me and even then it can't hold a candle to the NFL playoffs. I tried to watch the heat play the other day and i was bored to death *Until the final mins*.

Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: Change on November 25, 2012, 11:16:38 PM
Its funny i saw the pictures after i posted my last comment and i think i understand now lol. You're trying to say you find football boring??? That's cool. Football is americas sport i know how outsiders feel about it tho.



I kind of figured that's what you were trying to say lol. One more huge reason i like the NFL more, The NBA has BY FAR the worst officiating in all of sports.

The NFL refs and Umpires in MLB are respected. The NBA refs are a complete joke and ruin the game for me. If i didn't love the celtics so much i wouldn't even watch the NBA. That's not the only reason i love football more tho.

To me basketball has to be in the playoffs for it to even remotely come close to just the excitement of watching one NFL regular season game. It is true that every game matters in the NFL. Not so much in the NBA. Its actually hard for me to even put into words on why i think the NFL is great.

Basketball to me is extremely boring but i love the celtics so that keeps my attention. Playoff basketball is where the fun really starts for me and even then it can't hold a candle to the NFL playoffs. I tried to watch the heat play the other day and i was bored to death *Until the final mins*.



Whatever floats your boat man. I'm basketball guy myself borderline junkie. I do watch some nfl games. But im not enthralled in the sport. Didn't the sport originate in Europe?  ;)
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: blastoidesroidsnoids on November 25, 2012, 11:44:52 PM
I feel nfl is mostly all hype.  So much desire to have your team win and brag about it to everyone on the face of the earth. Its fun to watch but theres only like 10 minutes of play and only half of that is fun to watch... which makes it all the more breath taking when something big happens.
 But theres so many players on the field and off it that most of them seem insignificant. Honestly I dont find it that fun to watch unless its the Patriots or Ive had a few beers. 

If you look at just the gameplay you get from NFL and compare it with NBA its not even close.  NBA is continuous, fastpaced, and jam packed full of close quarter action and filthy displays of athletic talent. NFL is closer to a game of chess with a lot of long breaks.
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on November 26, 2012, 12:43:58 AM
I feel nfl is mostly all hype.  So much desire to have your team win and brag about it to everyone on the face of the earth. Its fun to watch but theres only like 10 minutes of play and only half of that is fun to watch... which makes it all the more breath taking when something big happens.
 But theres so many players on the field and off it that most of them seem insignificant. Honestly I dont find it that fun to watch unless its the Patriots or Ive had a few beers. 

If you look at just the gameplay you get from NFL and compare it with NBA its not even close.  NBA is continuous, fastpaced, and jam packed full of close quarter action and filthy displays of athletic talent. NFL is closer to a game of chess with a lot of long breaks.

Meh, see i disagree. Not sure what you mean by ALL HYPE lol. "So much desire to have your team win so you can brag about it" Same as basketball and every other sport. Basketball there's alot of breaks as well. A few seconds of up and down and then somebody gets fouled and a long break is taken while a guy takes two free throws *Boring lol*.

Also since when is checkers better than chess? Since when is face paced better than slow paced? I think this generation is full of ADD kids. *Not talking about you but in general*. My main beef with the NBA is the refs but even if the NBA had the best refs in the world it would still come second to NFL but at least i would respect it more.


Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: Roy H. on November 26, 2012, 08:21:19 AM
I watch the Celtics more than any pro sports team.  I probably see part of at least 75 games per year.

However, I agree that I'm more likely to watch a random NFL game than I am a random NBA game.  If the Celtics aren't involved, I'm generally not all that invested in basketball.  With football, though, I'd probably watch the Browns vs. Chiefs.
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: bdm860 on November 26, 2012, 09:14:23 AM
I’m so jealous of other sports.

I never got into football, so I don’t ever watch it, but I’ve always been such a basketball junkie.  I like baseball, but still hate how much more attention it gets than the NBA. 

But I understand why.

NFL you have only 16 regular season games, NCAA you get 12, (both with one game playoff series) when you compare that to 82 and 35ish games for NBA and NCAA basketball (plus 7 game NBA playoff series), I get it.  So many crappy, meaningless games in the basketball.  A lot of 4 games in 5 nights in the NBA.  In the NBA, I’ve already seen my team 3-4x this week, that next game doesn’t always seem that important.  Also with so few games in football, every game really matters, 9-7 teams can make the playoffs, if this were the NFL the Bobcats, Magic, and TWolves would all be in the hunt for playoff spots, they probably won’t be at the end of the year in the NBA though.  You can’t take a game off in the NFL like you can in the NBA.

Plus you basically have one day a week dedicated to football.  Saturday for NCAA and Sunday for NFL.  You have all week to think about your opponent, build up excitement, talk trash to your friends, co-workers, family about the game.  You don’t have that in other sports.  That excitement build up definitely helps. And that one day a week of NFL football is on a day where majority of Americans have the day off, and can watch football all day.

With football, everyone fan gets to play the coach.  It’s like a big chess game. 4th and 5, do you punt? Do you run? Do you pass?  What kind of D do you play?  After every play you get to think about things like that, and I think most people love it, especially because most people think they’re so smart.  Nobody is watching basketball thinking “I hope Doc calls for a ball screen flare action here coming out of this timeout.”

These are some of the reasons I think football is so much more popular than basketball.  And I don’t even like football.
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 26, 2012, 09:37:59 AM
My favorite thing about the NFL season is that when it starts, it means basketball season isn't far away  :)

I'll watch some NFL games until basketball starts, then I don't really watch any.  I usually DVR the playoffs and start 60-90 minutes late, which is a life saver. 

Football is fun when it's a big moment, but there's way too much down time and the commentators and media take it WAY too seriously for me to really enjoy it.
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: CelticG1 on November 26, 2012, 10:01:54 AM
I am a much bigger Celtics fan than NBA fan.

Watching a random NBA game can be pretty brutal if its not a good matchup but even the good match ups almost always get spoiled by the officiating.

The refs in the NBA really are that brutal and can really ruin the joy sometimes
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: crownsy on November 26, 2012, 10:15:32 AM
I watch the Celtics more than any pro sports team.  I probably see part of at least 75 games per year.

However, I agree that I'm more likely to watch a random NFL game than I am a random NBA game.  If the Celtics aren't involved, I'm generally not all that invested in basketball.  With football, though, I'd probably watch the Browns vs. Chiefs.

Co-sign this pretty much, If it's not the Celtics or a Playoff game, it's tough for me to get invested in a basketball game. last few minutes prehaps if it's close.

But If it's Celtics vs. some random NFL game, I'm going C's

Same with baseball.
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: PhoSita on November 26, 2012, 10:47:05 AM
I watch the Celtics more than any pro sports team.  I probably see part of at least 75 games per year.

However, I agree that I'm more likely to watch a random NFL game than I am a random NBA game.  If the Celtics aren't involved, I'm generally not all that invested in basketball.  With football, though, I'd probably watch the Browns vs. Chiefs.

I was with you until you said Browns vs Chiefs.  The NFL has a number of hapless teams with pretty weak QB play.  At least half the games in any given week of the NFL schedule are either super lopsided or low scoring, boring affairs. 

More than half of the games played in the NBA are either non-competitive or are played between teams going nowhere, but even in games between bad teams you can see remarkable performances by rising stars or borderline stars stuck on said bad teams.  It's much easier for individuals to shine in basketball.  In football, one great player on a bad team doesn't really get much opportunity to shine.  Larry Fitzgerald is a good example of that. 

Also, in the NBA the good teams play multiple times a week, and on any given night there's usually at least one game that presents an interesting matchup for one reason or another.
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: guava_wrench on November 26, 2012, 10:48:00 AM
To a lot of foreigners who aren't exposed to hype machine, they find the game boring as chart below illustrates. All the hype and build up to see 11 minutes of action.

(http://uglyfours.com/storage/TYPICALGAMEWSJ.png?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1348097456394)
TP.

So little actual game play in football. I'll take basketball any day. Basketball is the only sport I can bear to watch with regularity on TV. With football, I can pretty much just watch my team.

The main advantage football has is that all the injuries mean less games are possible, though the owners are always trying to add more. With less games, each individual game becomes more significant. In basketball, hockey, and especially baseball, so much drama is lost by their extremely long seasons and drawn out playoff series.

And if there are people who think that the NBA rule changes are bad to make defense on perimeter players too difficult, they must be railing against all the rules protecting QBs these days. Average QBs can now through for 4,000 yeards.

The biggest advantage that the NFL has is neutral announcers. By having neutral announcers, they do not have raving mad homer announcers and it decreases the number of conspiracy mongerers and ref blamers. The small number of plays and large number of referees also makes officiating a lot easier. The fact that most of a football game is spent with nothing going on and that there is a break between EVERY play also gives officials a chance to review every play if they want. In sports like Basketball, hockey, and especially soccer, the game is more continuous so there is little ability to review bad calls, which are unavoidable the quicker the game and the more players interact.
Title: Re: NFL > NBA
Post by: wdleehi on November 26, 2012, 11:04:48 AM
NFl


Love the strategy.

Love the hits.

Love the intensity of each game. 

Love the greater emphasis on "team"

Love the ability for a team to "turn it around" without being 'lucky' in the draft.

Don't love the changes they made to protect the QB and WRs going over the middle, but completely understand the reason and have no issue with it.

Don't like the over hampering of defenders on pass defense.