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Re: Celtics "open to discussing Paul Pierce"?!
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2013, 05:27:19 PM »

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Pierce for Rudy Gay?

Not a deal that makes sense for Memphis financially. Maybe with a 3rd team....
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2013, 05:28:42 PM »

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The one guy, if moved, that would incur my wrath at the Celtics organization.

Although, it seems like this is brought up every season.


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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2013, 05:28:54 PM »

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Pierce for Rudy Gay?

Not a deal that makes sense for Memphis financially. Maybe with a 3rd team....

Pierce is only costs 4 million next year.

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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2013, 05:31:52 PM »

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Pierce for Rudy Gay?

Not a deal that makes sense for Memphis financially. Maybe with a 3rd team....

Pierce is only costs 4 million next year.

They want to save money this season, too.
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2013, 05:32:24 PM »

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Pierce for Rudy Gay?

Not a deal that makes sense for Memphis financially. Maybe with a 3rd team....

Pierce is only costs 4 million next year.

Exactly. Rudy Guy, however, is owed over 37M in years 13-14 and 14-15. So while they might not see any salary relief this year, they could see it next year if they decide to waive Pierce.

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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2013, 05:37:08 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2013, 05:38:41 PM »

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yesterday we hear that Rondo wants Gay in Boston... now, Celtics open to discussing Pierce... coincidence? uh-oh

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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2013, 05:39:35 PM »

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Combining some rumors and/or targets:


http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6202507


It would indeed be a major overhaul and I'm not entirely sure I would do it, but man, would it make us young and extremely talented. Cousins, Evans, Gay, Green, Bradley, and Sullinger gives us some incredible young talent. All 26 or under too.

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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2013, 05:43:14 PM »

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Pierce for Rudy Gay?

Not a deal that makes sense for Memphis financially. Maybe with a 3rd team....

Pierce is only costs 4 million next year.

Exactly. Rudy Guy, however, is owed over 37M in years 13-14 and 14-15. So while they might not see any salary relief this year, they could see it next year if they decide to waive Pierce.

MEM can get better value for Gay then paying the tax for Pierce this year, then paying him $4.5mil to go play somewhere else next year.

Gay also plays the same position as Green, who the Cs are stuck with.
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2013, 05:45:07 PM »

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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2013, 05:47:54 PM »

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Pierce for Rudy Gay?

Not a deal that makes sense for Memphis financially. Maybe with a 3rd team....

Pierce is only costs 4 million next year.

Exactly. Rudy Guy, however, is owed over 37M in years 13-14 and 14-15. So while they might not see any salary relief this year, they could see it next year if they decide to waive Pierce.

MEM can get better value for Gay then paying the tax for Pierce this year, then paying him $4.5mil to go play somewhere else next year.

Still, Pierce could make Memphis legit title contenders...They aren't very far away right now...

Maybe something like this? http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b2lfs7f

Pierce and Lee for Allen and Gay? (I just salivate of a backcourt of Bradley and Allen)

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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2013, 05:50:01 PM »

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Pierce for Rudy Gay?

Not a deal that makes sense for Memphis financially. Maybe with a 3rd team....

Pierce is only costs 4 million next year.

Exactly. Rudy Guy, however, is owed over 37M in years 13-14 and 14-15. So while they might not see any salary relief this year, they could see it next year if they decide to waive Pierce.

MEM can get better value for Gay then paying the tax for Pierce this year, then paying him $4.5mil to go play somewhere else next year.

Still, Pierce could make Memphis legit title contenders...They aren't very far away right now...

Maybe something like this? http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b2lfs7f

Pierce and Lee for Allen and Gay?

You increased their tax bill this year, not decreased.
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2013, 05:50:08 PM »

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Pierce for Rudy Gay?

Not a deal that makes sense for Memphis financially. Maybe with a 3rd team....

Pierce is only costs 4 million next year.

Exactly. Rudy Guy, however, is owed over 37M in years 13-14 and 14-15. So while they might not see any salary relief this year, they could see it next year if they decide to waive Pierce.

MEM can get better value for Gay then paying the tax for Pierce this year, then paying him $4.5mil to go play somewhere else next year.

Gay also plays the same position as Green, who the Cs are stuck with.

You're right, they could. But if they don't get it then Pierce would be a great fallback option. Plus, it makes them much more formidable in the playoffs. I figure his halfcourt game/outside shooting would pay immediate dividends for Memphis. A much better fit than Gay in that aspect.

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Roy, I forget the rules on this.  Could Pierce be traded on draft day, and then cut, so there would only be the $4 million guaranteed?

I don't believe so, because the last year of his deal has been described as a team option.  Contracts that can be ended due to an option aren't tradeable before the new league year.

However, if the deal isn't in fact a team option, and rather is a non-guaranteed (or partially guaranteed) deal, then I think it *can* be traded.  It all depends upon the structure of the deal, I believe.


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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2013, 05:51:12 PM »

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The heart and soul of this team I dont get it, are we blowing it up?!?!  :-\

With Danny, you never know.

 Regarding PP during the season, Danny would have to be blown away with an offer. Otherwise, I think it's highly unlikely.

The last sentence in the OP article quote is controlling here:

" If Ainge decides to stand pat, a deal involving Pierce -- which would mark the true end of the Big Three era -- could be re-examined around the draft or during free agency.'

IF it happens, it happens then, UNLESS Danny is blown away.