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Carmelo looked pretty bad, whose fall off the cliff was more disastrous?

Landry Fields (fight me)
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Deron Williams
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Jared Sullinger (honorary)
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Dorell Wright
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Andrew Bynum
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Vin Baker
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Re: Most dramatic cliff drop in recent times
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2019, 03:39:23 AM »

Offline Androslav

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After having that "plane-high" high,
I am pretty sure that Waiters had a dramatic drop-off.
"The joy of the balling under the rims."

Re: Most dramatic cliff drop in recent times
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2019, 04:03:01 AM »

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Gerald Wallace (aka crash). When the effects of his play style caught up with him they did it hard.
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Re: Most dramatic cliff drop in recent times
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2019, 07:06:24 AM »

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Roy hibbert went from all star to out of the league in the span of like 2 years lol

Danny granger also fell out of the league a lot faster than I thought he would
That would be my choice too.  He became irrelevant quickly.

I personally would not count injury-related cliff falls, doesn't seem fair.  Drugs & alcohol, ok.

Re: Most dramatic cliff drop in recent times
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2019, 07:20:20 AM »

Offline Fafnir

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Mark Blount.

He climbed the cliff for one season and then jumped right back off  ::)

Re: Most dramatic cliff drop in recent times
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2019, 08:06:20 AM »

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2 names come to my mind

Shawn Kemp
1999-2000: 17.8 points, 8.8 rebounds
2000-2001: 6.5 points, 3.8 rebounds

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During the lockout shortened 1998–1999 NBA season, Kemp reportedly showed up to training camp weighing 280 pounds, though Cleveland's then general manager Wayne Embry revealed that he was actually 315 pounds. (...) The last few years of Kemp's professional basketball career were riddled with problems stemming from his weight, as well as cocaine and alcohol abuse. His first season in Portland ended early when he entered drug rehabilitation.


Antoine Walker
In all honesty, I wasn't following the games at the time. I bet most of you guys have more things to say than I do. All I've heard is that his game deteriorated quickly since he got traded to Dallas.


Roy hibbert went from all star to out of the league in the span of like 2 years lol

Danny granger also fell out of the league a lot faster than I thought he would
TP! Hibbert is a great example!

Granger had injury problems. I don't think he counts for this one.
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Re: Most dramatic cliff drop in recent times
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2019, 08:19:28 AM »

Offline Androslav

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2 names come to my mind

Shawn Kemp
1999-2000: 17.8 points, 8.8 rebounds
2000-2001: 6.5 points, 3.8 rebounds

(copy paste from wikipedia)
During the lockout shortened 1998–1999 NBA season, Kemp reportedly showed up to training camp weighing 280 pounds, though Cleveland's then general manager Wayne Embry revealed that he was actually 315 pounds. (...) The last few years of Kemp's professional basketball career were riddled with problems stemming from his weight, as well as cocaine and alcohol abuse. His first season in Portland ended early when he entered drug rehabilitation.


Antoine Walker
In all honesty, I wasn't following the games at the time. I bet most of you guys have more things to say than I do. All I've heard is that his game deteriorated quickly since he got traded to Dallas.


Roy hibbert went from all star to out of the league in the span of like 2 years lol

Danny granger also fell out of the league a lot faster than I thought he would
TP! Hibbert is a great example!

Granger had injury problems. I don't think he counts for this one.
Kemp, my favorite player at the time.
TP You nailed it.
And that was his 2nd big drop off.
1st was between Seattle and Cleveland.
"The joy of the balling under the rims."

Re: Most dramatic cliff drop in recent times
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2019, 09:27:25 AM »

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I'm sure I'm not remembering exactly what happened but it seemed like Jamal Mashburn went from good player to having a weird illness to all of a sudden retired. Anyone remember the details of the end of his career?

Re: Most dramatic cliff drop in recent times
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2019, 09:56:00 AM »

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What about Larry Sanders? Dude look like he was going to be really really good. Then got injured, suspended, retired, came back and did not do anything on CAVS.

I think he played in the BIG 3 tho

Re: Most dramatic cliff drop in recent times
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2019, 10:10:03 AM »

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This might be nit picking, but a big part of Bynum's fall was injury related wasn't it?

Re: Most dramatic cliff drop in recent times
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2019, 10:15:05 AM »

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This might be nit picking, but a big part of Bynum's fall was injury related wasn't it?
Yeah.

He also didn't react well to moving from limited minutes to starter type role. But fundamentally his body fell apart.

Re: Most dramatic cliff drop in recent times
« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2019, 06:00:11 PM »

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I voted Deron.

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Re: Most dramatic cliff drop in recent times
« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2019, 07:25:42 PM »

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Ryan Anderson fell off pretty quick...like less than 2 years. He was at 14 PPG and shooting very efficiently while still grabbing rebounds to 2.5 PPG, unable to shoot, not getting rebounds and basically unplayable. A year later(just the other day), performing even worse, he was released.


Re: Most dramatic cliff drop in recent times
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2019, 07:28:13 PM »

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Tracy McGrady's fall off was pretty steep, though again, injury.

Re: Most dramatic cliff drop in recent times
« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2019, 07:33:50 PM »

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Jeremy Lin (more because of the brief linsanity craze).

That's simply measured by hype.  Not actual skill.

Re: Most dramatic cliff drop in recent times
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2019, 09:08:11 PM »

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This is such a great question, that I created - thankyou, please write in better answers!!! I can't remember much from when I was a kid from the 80s/90s, so relying on older guys to come up with some hum dingers.

Note that we should exclude serious injury guys (e.g Brandon Roy, Oden, maybe even Arenas), and players who slowly became less relevant (e.g Udonis Haslem).

I want big ass drops of the cliff.

Carmelo does not yet qualify, because he may bust out, who knows?
Carmelo will never qualify because he had a long hall of fame career and just got old.  The decline started years ago.


It's not all that recent but Richard Dumas comes to mind.  He was called Dr. J with a jump shot in the early 90's and averaged over 15ppg as a rookie with the Suns.  He was suspended for drugs after his rookie year and never made it back.  He was last in the news a few years ago when he was working as a janitor and got caught stealing some merchandise.  Also from that Suns team- Oliver Miller ate himself out of the league very quickly.  Same for Mike Sweetney.