NBA Off Season 2022

[celticsclay]

Kyrie irving shared an Alex Jones video today saying he tried to warn us featuring Alex Jones warning of plagues. I think the people that lost it on me for calling kyrie unhinged may owe me an apology lol.

Meh that still doesn't count as unhinged.

Lol what? Saying alex tried to warn us and sharing his content? The same guy that just paid millions of dollars for saying Sandy hook was fake and done by child actors? Should we worry about you man?

[celticsclay]

Kyrie irving shared an Alex Jones video today saying he tried to warn us featuring Alex Jones warning of plagues. I think the people that lost it on me for calling kyrie unhinged may owe me an apology lol.

I think we're all in agreement that Kyrie's an 'open minded' idiot.

I still say that this doesn't, and didn't, mean he's unhinged - there's no psychotic break happening here, there's no derangement. When he's eating paste on a live stream, then you'll have a point. But if it makes you feel better, he's definitely got his mind so open that his brain seems to have fallen out

I don’t really get people thinking sharing Alex Jones content about plagues isn’t extremely concerning, but I don’t really want to try to explain to people what’s wrong with Alex Jones and sharing his content if they don’t already get it. It’s worse than easting paste tho and much more dangerous.

[gouki88]

Kyrie irving shared an Alex Jones video today saying he tried to warn us featuring Alex Jones warning of plagues. I think the people that lost it on me for calling kyrie unhinged may owe me an apology lol.

Meh that still doesn't count as unhinged.

Siding with Alex Jones does count as unhinged, categorically.

[Kernewek]

Kyrie irving shared an Alex Jones video today saying he tried to warn us featuring Alex Jones warning of plagues. I think the people that lost it on me for calling kyrie unhinged may owe me an apology lol.

I think we're all in agreement that Kyrie's an 'open minded' idiot.

I still say that this doesn't, and didn't, mean he's unhinged - there's no psychotic break happening here, there's no derangement. When he's eating paste on a live stream, then you'll have a point. But if it makes you feel better, he's definitely got his mind so open that his brain seems to have fallen out

I don’t really get people thinking sharing Alex Jones content about plagues isn’t extremely concerning, but I don’t really want to try to explain to people what’s wrong with Alex Jones and sharing his content if they don’t already get it. It’s worse than easting paste tho and much more dangerous.

You’re horrifically misrepresenting my position, so let me explain:
I don’t think there’s any disagreement about the merit (or lack thereof) of Alex Jones. He’s a grifter who peddles dangerous misinformation to gullible saps.

The “unhinged” discussion is and was an issue of semantics because you used a word that, while a passable synonym in casual conversation, is not really correct now and was certainly even less correct at the time.

Unless you think that every single person who has ever shared an Alex Jones video is, by virtue of that fact, “unhinged” (as in unable to think clearly because of mental illness*)?

You really want to diagnose Kyrie as being mentally ill from your armchair? This is the hill you want to die on?

*

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/unhinged
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/unhinged
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/unhinged

In Short: if this was the 90's and you called Kyrie 'retarded' for sharing this video I would have had the same complaint - not that I disagree with the thrust of what you're saying, but that the word doesn't really describe his behaviour beyond colloquial usage, and you could probably find a better one.

[celticsclay]

Kyrie irving shared an Alex Jones video today saying he tried to warn us featuring Alex Jones warning of plagues. I think the people that lost it on me for calling kyrie unhinged may owe me an apology lol.

I think we're all in agreement that Kyrie's an 'open minded' idiot.

I still say that this doesn't, and didn't, mean he's unhinged - there's no psychotic break happening here, there's no derangement. When he's eating paste on a live stream, then you'll have a point. But if it makes you feel better, he's definitely got his mind so open that his brain seems to have fallen out

I don’t really get people thinking sharing Alex Jones content about plagues isn’t extremely concerning, but I don’t really want to try to explain to people what’s wrong with Alex Jones and sharing his content if they don’t already get it. It’s worse than easting paste tho and much more dangerous.

You’re horrifically misrepresenting my position, so let me explain:
I don’t think there’s any disagreement about the merit (or lack thereof) of Alex Jones. He’s a grifter who peddles dangerous misinformation to gullible saps.

The “unhinged” discussion is and was an issue of semantics because you used a word that, while a passable synonym in casual conversation, is not really correct now and was certainly even less correct at the time.

Unless you think that every single person who has ever shared an Alex Jones video is, by virtue of that fact, “unhinged” (as in unable to think clearly because of mental illness*)?

You really want to diagnose Kyrie as being mentally ill from your armchair? This is the hill you want to die on?

*

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/unhinged
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/unhinged
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/unhinged

In Short: if this was the 90's and you called Kyrie 'retarded' for sharing this video I would have had the same complaint - not that I disagree with the thrust of what you're saying, but that the word doesn't really describe his behaviour beyond colloquial usage, and you could probably find a better one.

The dictionary link you said doesn’t even support what you are arguing. Two of the synonyms provided from that link are disturbed and unbalanced, which kyrie certainly seems to be. It may have been used differently among your friends and/or community but the comparison to retarded is absolutely preposterous, even from the link you provided. It’s a bit ironic you described me as choosing this as my hill to die on, cause you are clearly doing that with a very aggressive interpretation of the word. 

And to answer your question I do think the majority of people that share/like Alex Jones content are unhinged. This is a guy that literally said they turned frogs gay.

As part of this: “ One of Jones' most notorious conspiracy theories is that the government is using chemicals in order to turn people gay, using a mysterious "gay bomb" devised by the Pentagon.

"The reason there's so many gay people now is because it's a chemical warfare operation, and I have the government documents where they said they're going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don't have children," he said on his broadcast in 2010, according to NBC News.”

[Kernewek]

Again, this has nothing to do with what Alex Jones says.

I do think you should re-read my post one more time, because pointing out that it’s a casual synonym to words you perhaps should have used instead is my point.

[celticsclay]

Again, this has nothing to do with what Alex Jones says.

I do think you should re-read my post one more time, because pointing out that it’s a casual synonym to words you perhaps should have used instead is my point.

I don’t know how the word was used in your personal life or experiences that made you have such a visceral reaction to it, but it does not change the appropriateness or meaning of the word. It’s entirely appropriate and accurate in the way I have used it. This was a very strange conversation and I think we have reached the end of it.

[celticsclay]

Kyrie irving shared an Alex Jones video today saying he tried to warn us featuring Alex Jones warning of plagues. I think the people that lost it on me for calling kyrie unhinged may owe me an apology lol.

Meh that still doesn't count as unhinged.

Siding with Alex Jones does count as unhinged, categorically.

Tp Gouki. If you are supporting a guy that says the government is controlling the weather, creating tornadoes and turning people gay you really are by definition engaging in fantasy and delusion. This isn’t harmless stuff either see January 6th or also Edgar Welch.

[Kernewek]

Again, this has nothing to do with what Alex Jones says.

I do think you should re-read my post one more time, because pointing out that it’s a casual synonym to words you perhaps should have used instead is my point.

I don’t know how the word was used in your personal life or experiences that made you have such a visceral reaction to it, but it does not change the appropriateness or meaning of the word. It’s entirely appropriate and accurate in the way I have used it. This was a very strange conversation and I think we have reached the end of it.

Yeah imagine that - I hold the quaint opinion that words have meaning.

Anyway, you do you CC, TP for the banter

[celticsclay]

Again, this has nothing to do with what Alex Jones says.

I do think you should re-read my post one more time, because pointing out that it’s a casual synonym to words you perhaps should have used instead is my point.

I don’t know how the word was used in your personal life or experiences that made you have such a visceral reaction to it, but it does not change the appropriateness or meaning of the word. It’s entirely appropriate and accurate in the way I have used it. This was a very strange conversation and I think we have reached the end of it.

Yeah imagine that - I hold the quaint opinion that words have meaning.

Anyway, you do you CC, TP for the banter

Tp back at you, always appreciate you even when we disagree.

[Roy H.]

Again, this has nothing to do with what Alex Jones says.

I do think you should re-read my post one more time, because pointing out that it’s a casual synonym to words you perhaps should have used instead is my point.

I don’t know how the word was used in your personal life or experiences that made you have such a visceral reaction to it, but it does not change the appropriateness or meaning of the word. It’s entirely appropriate and accurate in the way I have used it. This was a very strange conversation and I think we have reached the end of it.

Yeah imagine that - I hold the quaint opinion that words have meaning.

Anyway, you do you CC, TP for the banter

I’m curious, do you think that Alex Jones is unhinged? That a majority of his followers are? In a colloquial way or otherwise?

My phone’s voice detection  just translated “followers” to “fellow warriors”, haha.  Conservative / Trumpian bias?

[Moranis]

Again, this has nothing to do with what Alex Jones says.

I do think you should re-read my post one more time, because pointing out that it’s a casual synonym to words you perhaps should have used instead is my point.

I don’t know how the word was used in your personal life or experiences that made you have such a visceral reaction to it, but it does not change the appropriateness or meaning of the word. It’s entirely appropriate and accurate in the way I have used it. This was a very strange conversation and I think we have reached the end of it.

Yeah imagine that - I hold the quaint opinion that words have meaning.

Anyway, you do you CC, TP for the banter

I’m curious, do you think that Alex Jones is unhinged? That a majority of his followers are? In a colloquial way or otherwise?

My phone’s voice detection  just translated “followers” to “fellow warriors”, haha.  Conservative / Trumpian bias?

I know this wasn't directed towards me, but Alex Jones is not unhinged and neither are the majority of the people that listen to them.  Jones caters to the fringe of society, but the fringe of society aren't unhinged just because they are the fringe of society.  Unhinged has a very specific medical connotation to it, i.e. people that have lost their basis in reality, that are unstable, distraught, deranged, unbalanced, etc.  Most of the people that listen to Jones are not in fact unhinged.  They are stable, they hold jobs, they function in society, etc.  Their world view is distorted and not accurate, but that doesn't make them mentally unstable, unbalanced, or distraught.   So I agree with what Kern is trying to say and portray.  Just because a person may have "crazy" beliefs, it doesn't make them unhinged. 

[Roy H.]

Again, this has nothing to do with what Alex Jones says.

I do think you should re-read my post one more time, because pointing out that it’s a casual synonym to words you perhaps should have used instead is my point.

I don’t know how the word was used in your personal life or experiences that made you have such a visceral reaction to it, but it does not change the appropriateness or meaning of the word. It’s entirely appropriate and accurate in the way I have used it. This was a very strange conversation and I think we have reached the end of it.

Yeah imagine that - I hold the quaint opinion that words have meaning.

Anyway, you do you CC, TP for the banter

I’m curious, do you think that Alex Jones is unhinged? That a majority of his followers are? In a colloquial way or otherwise?

My phone’s voice detection  just translated “followers” to “fellow warriors”, haha.  Conservative / Trumpian bias?

I know this wasn't directed towards me, but Alex Jones is not unhinged and neither are the majority of the people that listen to them.  Jones caters to the fringe of society, but the fringe of society aren't unhinged just because they are the fringe of society.  Unhinged has a very specific medical connotation to it, i.e. people that have lost their basis in reality, that are unstable, distraught, deranged, unbalanced, etc.  Most of the people that listen to Jones are not in fact unhinged.  They are stable, they hold jobs, they function in society, etc.  Their world view is distorted and not accurate, but that doesn't make them mentally unstable, unbalanced, or distraught.   So I agree with what Kern is trying to say and portray.  Just because a person may have "crazy" beliefs, it doesn't make them unhinged.

You and Kern seem to be ignoring a colloquial meaning, though?

I think "their world view is distorted and not accurate" or "'crazy' beliefs" fits that colloquial definition.

In a world where "literally" colloquially means "not literally", I think we can let those using "unhinged" in a not strictly medical sense off the hook.  (And, I haven't followed any links for definitions, but I'd be shocked if "unhinged" had a clinical meaning, unlike words that did in the past, such as "retarded", "imbecile", "moron", and "idiot", all of which developed colloquial meanings.

[celticsclay]

Again, this has nothing to do with what Alex Jones says.

I do think you should re-read my post one more time, because pointing out that it’s a casual synonym to words you perhaps should have used instead is my point.

I don’t know how the word was used in your personal life or experiences that made you have such a visceral reaction to it, but it does not change the appropriateness or meaning of the word. It’s entirely appropriate and accurate in the way I have used it. This was a very strange conversation and I think we have reached the end of it.

Yeah imagine that - I hold the quaint opinion that words have meaning.

Anyway, you do you CC, TP for the banter

I’m curious, do you think that Alex Jones is unhinged? That a majority of his followers are? In a colloquial way or otherwise?

My phone’s voice detection  just translated “followers” to “fellow warriors”, haha.  Conservative / Trumpian bias?

I know this wasn't directed towards me, but Alex Jones is not unhinged and neither are the majority of the people that listen to them.  Jones caters to the fringe of society, but the fringe of society aren't unhinged just because they are the fringe of society.  Unhinged has a very specific medical connotation to it, i.e. people that have lost their basis in reality, that are unstable, distraught, deranged, unbalanced, etc.  Most of the people that listen to Jones are not in fact unhinged.  They are stable, they hold jobs, they function in society, etc.  Their world view is distorted and not accurate, but that doesn't make them mentally unstable, unbalanced, or distraught.   So I agree with what Kern is trying to say and portray.  Just because a person may have "crazy" beliefs, it doesn't make them unhinged.

I’m very curious where you have gotten your demographic information on the kinds of people that still listen to Alex Jones in 2022. He is banned from Apple, Facebook and YouTube. A non insignificant amount of his followers have harassed the families that had kids killed while at school. This is textbook mentally unstable and unbalanced behavior. His show was also connected with the capital insurrection and a man bringing a gun to a pizza place to break up a Hilary Clinton pedophile ring. A significant amount of his listening population to in fact exist on the fringes of society. I don’t know what percentage it is, but claiming to know like you do is again presenting opinion as fact.

I’m also extremely dubious of your claim that it has a “very specific medical connotation.” What exactly is that? It’s not in the APA dictionary of psychology. Did you just completely make this up with no reason?

[Donoghus]

Saying Sandy Hook was staged is enough for me to consider Jones unhinged to a degree.  What sick Edited for profanity.  Please do not do it again. does something like that?

He's a despicable human.