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MVP race:  Who do you think is the early favorite (poll)

Steph Curry
5 (12.8%)
Joel Embiid
2 (5.1%)
Nikola Jokić
30 (76.9%)
Luka Dončić
2 (5.1%)

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Re: MVP race: Who do you think is the early favorite? (poll)
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2021, 11:53:38 AM »

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It will be curious how the voters go this year. Do they rely on statistics, team success, or a balance of the two. Jokic and Embiid scratch off both categories, but Embiid has missed nearly a third of the teams games. However, I’m not sure any player has had as much of an impact on his team’s success than Chris Paul this season. The Suns had the second worst record in the league two years ago. Last season, they finished 5 games under .500. This season, they add Paul, and have the second best record in the league, and only 1.5 games back from first. The jump the team made this season is too significant to ignore.

BTW, when it comes to the 76ers, Doc may be their MVP.
Don't get me wrong, I know Chris Paul has had a lot to do with their success, but they were also 8-0 in the bubble last year and they were also 20-18 with Ayton.  Ayton is still just a 22 year old, 3rd year big man.  As we know big men often take the longest to develop, but also often have the most impact on the scoreboard. Booker is still just 24, Bridges and Johnson are also 24.  They have been incredibly healthy at the top and they also added Jae Crowder.  Paul's influence has certainly helped them, but putting it all (or even the vast majority) on him doesn't seem to really fit.  The Suns knew the young guys were ready to make a leap, which is why they brought in Paul and Crowder to begin with.  Of the starters, Booker has the best on/off differential on the team.  He is their leading scorer and their focal point.  Paul is probably more valuable, but Booker is their best player, and that hurts Paul's chances a lot (I currently have him 4th on my board behing Jokic, Giannis, and Lillard). 
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Re: MVP race: Who do you think is the early favorite? (poll)
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2021, 01:01:20 PM »

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Jokic will win it, but I'd vote for Embiid, despite the number of games he missed.  He is most dominant two way player, and his team is in first.

Re: MVP race: Who do you think is the early favorite? (poll)
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2021, 06:45:11 PM »

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Jokic will win it, but I'd vote for Embiid, despite the number of games he missed.  He is most dominant two way player, and his team is in first.
Embiid's defence has actually barely been better than Jokic's this year. They're both able to get exposed in space, but Jokic has improved his defensive positioning and conditioning a lot.

Also the 76ers are 1 game better than the Nuggets. The Nugs are just in the West
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Re: MVP race: Who do you think is the early favorite? (poll)
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2021, 09:32:08 PM »

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Jokic will win it, but I'd vote for Embiid, despite the number of games he missed.  He is most dominant two way player, and his team is in first.
Embiid's defence has actually barely been better than Jokic's this year. They're both able to get exposed in space, but Jokic has improved his defensive positioning and conditioning a lot.

Also the 76ers are 1 game better than the Nuggets. The Nugs are just in the West
and they are just 0.5 games ahead of the Nets

And I still think Giannis is the most dominant 2-way player.  He is after all the reigning DPOY and MVP.  And is still putting up incredible numbers at 28.5/11.2/6.0 with a 62.9 TS%.  Pretty darn similar numbers to Embiid actually, though Giannis has played in more games and actually still tried every night defensively. 
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Re: MVP race: Who do you think is the early favorite? (poll)
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2021, 11:26:50 PM »

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Jokic will win it, but I'd vote for Embiid, despite the number of games he missed.  He is most dominant two way player, and his team is in first.
Embiid's defence has actually barely been better than Jokic's this year. They're both able to get exposed in space, but Jokic has improved his defensive positioning and conditioning a lot.

Also the 76ers are 1 game better than the Nuggets. The Nugs are just in the West
and they are just 0.5 games ahead of the Nets

And I still think Giannis is the most dominant 2-way player.  He is after all the reigning DPOY and MVP.  And is still putting up incredible numbers at 28.5/11.2/6.0 with a 62.9 TS%.  Pretty darn similar numbers to Embiid actually, though Giannis has played in more games and actually still tried every night defensively.
Yeah, it's just the MVP fatigue with Giannis now. Happened to LeBron for years
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Re: MVP race: Who do you think is the early favorite? (poll)
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2021, 03:54:55 AM »

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« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2021, 06:13:57 AM »

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I think it's going to be Jokic. I think Curry would have had a shot if the Dubs were higher up on the ladder.
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« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2021, 06:22:32 AM »

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Re: MVP race: Who do you think is the early favorite? (poll)
« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2021, 11:34:28 AM »

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So Lebron is back.  He missed 21 games.  Embiid has currently missed 19 games.  So if you have Embiid in contention, you pretty much have to have Lebron in contention.  Jokic should win it, but Lebron coming back a bit earlier than expected has at least made it more interesting.  Of course the Lakers did lose to the Kings yesterday (though they were +5 in Lebron's 32 minutes and -9 in the 16 minutes he was on the bench). 
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