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Re: Sacramento Kings 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
« Reply #90 on: June 27, 2018, 12:12:15 PM »

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Kings targeting jabari parker and hezonja
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/kings/kings-have-solid-options-wing-free-agency#slide-3

So basically hoping to bottom out once again lol.

Lol Parker would at least be able to score for them.

I’m liking the rumors the Mavs and Suns are hoping to make a big splash in FA.  That’s 2 teams I expect to be better than the Kings.

Re: Sacramento Kings 2018-19 Season Warch Thread
« Reply #91 on: June 27, 2018, 12:42:55 PM »

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Next years draft is going to be nice. A lot of wings, and Dukies

1. RJ Barrett (6'6" SG, Duke) comp: Michael Redd/Grant Hill
2. Bruno Fernando (6'10", 245 lb, PF/C, Maryland)  comp: emeka okafor
3. Cam Reddish ( 6'7" SG/SF, Duke) comp: Rudy Gay / Joe Johnson
4. Rui Hachimura  (6'8", 225 lb, SF, Gonzaga) comp: Wilson Chandler
5. Zion Williamson ( 6'6'', 272 lb, PF, Duke)   comp:  larry johnson


A lot of trade bait you mean... yes.

This post is over a month old, but what's up with Barrett's comps?  Michael Redd and Grant Hill?  Those 2 players are almost nothing alike.  I don't get it.  Zion's comp is right on though.
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Re: Sacramento Kings 2018-19 Season Warch Thread
« Reply #92 on: June 27, 2018, 12:59:39 PM »

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Next years draft is going to be nice. A lot of wings, and Dukies

1. RJ Barrett (6'6" SG, Duke) comp: Michael Redd/Grant Hill
2. Bruno Fernando (6'10", 245 lb, PF/C, Maryland)  comp: emeka okafor
3. Cam Reddish ( 6'7" SG/SF, Duke) comp: Rudy Gay / Joe Johnson
4. Rui Hachimura  (6'8", 225 lb, SF, Gonzaga) comp: Wilson Chandler
5. Zion Williamson ( 6'6'', 272 lb, PF, Duke)   comp:  larry johnson


A lot of trade bait you mean... yes.

This post is over a month old, but what's up with Barrett's comps?  Michael Redd and Grant Hill?  Those 2 players are almost nothing alike.  I don't get it.  Zion's comp is right on though.
i pulled it from a random site

Guessing redd cuz he’s a leftie but that’s kind of lazy

Re: Sacramento Kings 2018-19 Season Warch Thread
« Reply #93 on: June 27, 2018, 01:05:53 PM »

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Next years draft is going to be nice. A lot of wings, and Dukies

1. RJ Barrett (6'6" SG, Duke) comp: Michael Redd/Grant Hill
2. Bruno Fernando (6'10", 245 lb, PF/C, Maryland)  comp: emeka okafor
3. Cam Reddish ( 6'7" SG/SF, Duke) comp: Rudy Gay / Joe Johnson
4. Rui Hachimura  (6'8", 225 lb, SF, Gonzaga) comp: Wilson Chandler
5. Zion Williamson ( 6'6'', 272 lb, PF, Duke)   comp:  larry johnson


A lot of trade bait you mean... yes.

This post is over a month old, but what's up with Barrett's comps?  Michael Redd and Grant Hill?  Those 2 players are almost nothing alike.  I don't get it.  Zion's comp is right on though.
i pulled it from a random site

Guessing redd cuz he’s a leftie but that’s kind of lazy

Maybe they think injury is going to limit his potential? (Haven’t heard any injury concerns, but Redd and Hill have injury in common as much as anything).

Re: Sacramento Kings 2018-19 Season Warch Thread
« Reply #94 on: June 27, 2018, 01:44:59 PM »

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Next years draft is going to be nice. A lot of wings, and Dukies

1. RJ Barrett (6'6" SG, Duke) comp: Michael Redd/Grant Hill
2. Bruno Fernando (6'10", 245 lb, PF/C, Maryland)  comp: emeka okafor
3. Cam Reddish ( 6'7" SG/SF, Duke) comp: Rudy Gay / Joe Johnson
4. Rui Hachimura  (6'8", 225 lb, SF, Gonzaga) comp: Wilson Chandler
5. Zion Williamson ( 6'6'', 272 lb, PF, Duke)   comp:  larry johnson


A lot of trade bait you mean... yes.

This post is over a month old, but what's up with Barrett's comps?  Michael Redd and Grant Hill?  Those 2 players are almost nothing alike.  I don't get it.  Zion's comp is right on though.
i pulled it from a random site

Guessing redd cuz he’s a leftie but that’s kind of lazy

Maybe they think injury is going to limit his potential? (Haven’t heard any injury concerns, but Redd and Hill have injury in common as much as anything).
It should probably be Manu Ginobili if it's lefty related. Watching him play a couple of times though he doesn't remind me of anyone.

Re: Sacramento Kings 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
« Reply #95 on: July 01, 2018, 09:11:30 PM »

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Re: Sacramento Kings 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
« Reply #96 on: July 05, 2018, 10:21:38 AM »

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Everyone (I mean the teams competing for the top of the 2019 draft) is getting better but the Kings :)

This pick is getting more valuable by the day.

Re: Sacramento Kings 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
« Reply #97 on: July 05, 2018, 10:23:28 AM »

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Everyone (I mean the teams competing for the top of the 2019 draft) is getting better but the Kings :)

This pick is getting more valuable by the day.

Atlanta and Chicago are also staying pat, but yes, the Kings look to be the bottom 5 team many around here expect.  Those three teams are the only ones to have not added any players via free agency or trade so far this summer.

Re: Sacramento Kings 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
« Reply #98 on: July 05, 2018, 10:32:12 AM »

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5 worst teams are :

Sacramento
Atlanta
Chicago
New York
Brooklyn

C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Sacramento Kings 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
« Reply #99 on: July 05, 2018, 10:41:50 AM »

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Everyone (I mean the teams competing for the top of the 2019 draft) is getting better but the Kings :)

This pick is getting more valuable by the day.

Atlanta and Chicago are also staying pat, but yes, the Kings look to be the bottom 5 team many around here expect.  Those three teams are the only ones to have not added any players via free agency or trade so far this summer.

It's true that Sacramento hasn't added players thru trade or free agency. However, they did pick up Marvin Bagley and they'll be adding a redshirted Harry Giles. Both players are question marks. Before his ACL injury, Giles was expected to go at the top of the lottery. If he has recovered - and some players do fully recover from an ACL - he could be a ROY-type talent or close to it. How many were ready to write off Simmons and Embiid after their injuries? Bagley is another question mark. His motor and fluidity are outstanding, but his role and ability to defend are less clear. That could be a dynamic young frontcourt that will at least vault the Kings into mediocrity ... or just a pair of too-young players who don't move the needle in the ridiculously competitive West.

Re: Sacramento Kings 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
« Reply #100 on: July 05, 2018, 10:46:23 AM »

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Everyone (I mean the teams competing for the top of the 2019 draft) is getting better but the Kings :)

This pick is getting more valuable by the day.

Atlanta and Chicago are also staying pat, but yes, the Kings look to be the bottom 5 team many around here expect.  Those three teams are the only ones to have not added any players via free agency or trade so far this summer.

It's true that Sacramento hasn't added players thru trade or free agency. However, they did pick up Marvin Bagley and they'll be adding a redshirted Harry Giles. Both players are question marks. Before his ACL injury, Giles was expected to go at the top of the lottery. If he has recovered - and some players do fully recover from an ACL - he could be a ROY-type talent or nearly so. Bagley is another question mark. His motor and fluidity are outstanding, but his defense and proper role are a question mark. That could be a dynamic young frontcourt that at least vault the Kings into mediocrity ... or just a pair of too-young players who don't move the needle in the ridiculously competitive West.
That! Giles and Bagley could be the second coming of Anthony Davis and Chris Bosh and it would still be a long season for the Kings. Confidence of youth doesn't make you better competing with the long list of solid to spectacular West teams.

Re: Sacramento Kings 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
« Reply #101 on: July 05, 2018, 10:57:10 AM »

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Everyone (I mean the teams competing for the top of the 2019 draft) is getting better but the Kings :)

This pick is getting more valuable by the day.

Atlanta and Chicago are also staying pat, but yes, the Kings look to be the bottom 5 team many around here expect.  Those three teams are the only ones to have not added any players via free agency or trade so far this summer.

It's true that Sacramento hasn't added players thru trade or free agency. However, they did pick up Marvin Bagley and they'll be adding a redshirted Harry Giles. Both players are question marks. Before his ACL injury, Giles was expected to go at the top of the lottery. If he has recovered - and some players do fully recover from an ACL - he could be a ROY-type talent or nearly so. Bagley is another question mark. His motor and fluidity are outstanding, but his defense and proper role are a question mark. That could be a dynamic young frontcourt that at least vault the Kings into mediocrity ... or just a pair of too-young players who don't move the needle in the ridiculously competitive West.
That! Giles and Bagley could be the second coming of Anthony Davis and Chris Bosh and it would still be a long season for the Kings. Confidence of youth doesn't make you better competing with the long list of solid to spectacular West teams.

Exactly. The West is so stacked that this Kings team will definitely be near the bottom. Everything, from LBJ going to the Lakers, to the Suns getting it together, to the Grizz getting healthy, to Dallas getting stronger etc. bodes well for this pick.

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« Reply #102 on: July 05, 2018, 10:57:39 AM »

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Re: Sacramento Kings 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
« Reply #103 on: July 05, 2018, 10:57:46 AM »

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Everyone (I mean the teams competing for the top of the 2019 draft) is getting better but the Kings :)

This pick is getting more valuable by the day.

Atlanta and Chicago are also staying pat, but yes, the Kings look to be the bottom 5 team many around here expect.  Those three teams are the only ones to have not added any players via free agency or trade so far this summer.

It's true that Sacramento hasn't added players thru trade or free agency. However, they did pick up Marvin Bagley and they'll be adding a redshirted Harry Giles. Both players are question marks. Before his ACL injury, Giles was expected to go at the top of the lottery. If he has recovered - and some players do fully recover from an ACL - he could be a ROY-type talent or close to it. How many were ready to write off Simmons and Embiid after their injuries? Bagley is another question mark. His motor and fluidity are outstanding, but his role and ability to defend are less clear. That could be a dynamic young frontcourt that will at least vault the Kings into mediocrity ... or just a pair of too-young players who don't move the needle in the ridiculously competitive West.

You could say the same things about the Hawks with Trey Young, Kevin Huerter, and Omari Spellman, or the Bulls with Wendell Carter Jr. and Chandler Hutchison.  The likelihood that any set of these rookies push their respective teams, who were all in the bottom 5 of point differential per 100 possessions, into even mediocrity is incredibly low.  Again, Sacramento was 29th in net rating.  The difference between them and the mediocre Charlotte Hornets (20th in net rating) was greater than the difference between Charlotte and Toronto (3rd in net rating).  It’s going to be borderline impossible for the Kings to improve that much on the scoreboard, so it will take a lot of good luck for them to improve even half that much and at the same time outperform their expected win total by 4-5 wins again.

It’s much more likely that we lose the #1 pick to Philadelphia than Sacramento improves to the 8-12th team range in the league.

Re: Sacramento Kings 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
« Reply #104 on: July 05, 2018, 11:14:51 AM »

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Everyone (I mean the teams competing for the top of the 2019 draft) is getting better but the Kings :)

This pick is getting more valuable by the day.

Atlanta and Chicago are also staying pat, but yes, the Kings look to be the bottom 5 team many around here expect.  Those three teams are the only ones to have not added any players via free agency or trade so far this summer.

It's true that Sacramento hasn't added players thru trade or free agency. However, they did pick up Marvin Bagley and they'll be adding a redshirted Harry Giles. Both players are question marks. Before his ACL injury, Giles was expected to go at the top of the lottery. If he has recovered - and some players do fully recover from an ACL - he could be a ROY-type talent or close to it. How many were ready to write off Simmons and Embiid after their injuries? Bagley is another question mark. His motor and fluidity are outstanding, but his role and ability to defend are less clear. That could be a dynamic young frontcourt that will at least vault the Kings into mediocrity ... or just a pair of too-young players who don't move the needle in the ridiculously competitive West.

You could say the same things about the Hawks with Trey Young, Kevin Huerter, and Omari Spellman, or the Bulls with Wendell Carter Jr. and Chandler Hutchison.  The likelihood that any set of these rookies push their respective teams, who were all in the bottom 5 of point differential per 100 possessions, into even mediocrity is incredibly low.  Again, Sacramento was 29th in net rating.  The difference between them and the mediocre Charlotte Hornets (20th in net rating) was greater than the difference between Charlotte and Toronto (3rd in net rating).  It’s going to be borderline impossible for the Kings to improve that much on the scoreboard, so it will take a lot of good luck for them to improve even half that much and at the same time outperform their expected win total by 4-5 wins again.

It’s much more likely that we lose the #1 pick to Philadelphia than Sacramento improves to the 8-12th team range in the league.

Yeah. That was devils advocate as much anything else. That team really is so very young.