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Marcus Smart Deserves a Raise
« on: November 12, 2019, 12:49:26 PM »

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Strips the rebound and in same motion a no look to Robert Williams ,guarding both Porzingis and Donic , in control in paint for several layups and a kick out to Green for three ,a track down block  ,hitting dagger threes and taking a flagrant and a low blow.

And he is a stretch six defensive all star.
He wants to be in Boston his whole career  get an extra year team option and give him a raise.

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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2019, 12:58:02 PM »

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Unfortunately the hard ball negotiating by Ainge may have done the damage on Smart and Brown relationships... pretty soon both will feel underpaid and that is not a good thing carrying forward

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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2019, 01:01:05 PM »

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Unfortunately the hard ball negotiating by Ainge may have done the damage on Smart and Brown relationships... pretty soon both will feel underpaid and that is not a good thing carrying forward

No one forced Smart or Brown to take that money - they actually looked like overpay at the time. I don't think either is taking that as a slight
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Re: Marcus Smart Deserves a Raise
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2019, 01:22:45 PM »

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Unfortunately the hard ball negotiating by Ainge may have done the damage on Smart and Brown relationships... pretty soon both will feel underpaid and that is not a good thing carrying forward

No one forced Smart or Brown to take that money - they actually looked like overpay at the time. I don't think either is taking that as a slight
I think he was kidding.

Ainge does look like he made two exceptional bets here. A lot of people are noticing Jaylen deservedly, but Marcus has improved on offense considerably too. Neither guy is doing it while taking any defensive plays off.


Re: Marcus Smart Deserves a Raise
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2019, 01:28:01 PM »

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Unfortunately the hard ball negotiating by Ainge may have done the damage on Smart and Brown relationships... pretty soon both will feel underpaid and that is not a good thing carrying forward

No one forced Smart or Brown to take that money - they actually looked like overpay at the time. I don't think either is taking that as a slight

Sometimes players lose their moxie after signing a big contract. Those two have been playing like they’re in the last year of their contracts.
'I was proud of Marcus Smart. He did a great job of keeping us together. He might not get credit for this game, but the pace that he played at, and his playcalling, some of the plays that he called were great. We obviously have to rely on him, so I’m definitely looking forward to Marcus leading this team in that role.' - Jaylen Brown, January 2021

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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2019, 01:33:43 PM »

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Strips the rebound and in same motion a no look to Robert Williams ,guarding both Porzingis and Donic , in control in paint for several layups and a kick out to Green for three ,a track down block  ,hitting dagger threes and taking a flagrant and a low blow.

And he is a stretch six defensive all star.
He wants to be in Boston his whole career  get an extra year team option and give him a raise.

As usual turnovers are overlooked by fans. Smart (along with  Brown, btw) are leading the way for Boston - the team is first in the league in turnovers.

Big breakthrough for Smart - he’s always been way too turnover-prone.
'I was proud of Marcus Smart. He did a great job of keeping us together. He might not get credit for this game, but the pace that he played at, and his playcalling, some of the plays that he called were great. We obviously have to rely on him, so I’m definitely looking forward to Marcus leading this team in that role.' - Jaylen Brown, January 2021

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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2019, 02:09:25 PM »

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Unfortunately the hard ball negotiating by Ainge may have done the damage on Smart and Brown relationships... pretty soon both will feel underpaid and that is not a good thing carrying forward

No one forced Smart or Brown to take that money - they actually looked like overpay at the time. I don't think either is taking that as a slight
I think he was kidding.

Ainge does look like he made two exceptional bets here. A lot of people are noticing Jaylen deservedly, but Marcus has improved on offense considerably too. Neither guy is doing it while taking any defensive plays off.

I don't think he was. In Smart's case, he was literally a FA (RFA) and he signed for what his market value was at the time. Brown chose to forego a chance to hit RFA next offseason and guarantee himself a boatload of money now. His new contract hasn't even begun.

There is such a thing as a contract extension, but it's not a perfect situation since you can't offer max years until the current contract is over. I would personally love to see that changed for the next CBA so that you can actually know whether or not your upcoming FA really wants to stay with you (see the Kyrie situation). Marcus will never be a max guy so he is likely to hit FA, but it may be possible to lock in Brown early. Either way, we just have to make sure they are happy as Cs if we plan to keep them. Their current contracts shouldn't really play a factor - it wasn't a matching situation like Hayward in Utah.

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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2019, 02:12:39 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2019, 02:19:33 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2019, 02:32:37 PM »

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Strips the rebound and in same motion a no look to Robert Williams ,guarding both Porzingis and Donic , in control in paint for several layups and a kick out to Green for three ,a track down block  ,hitting dagger threes and taking a flagrant and a low blow.

And he is a stretch six defensive all star.
He wants to be in Boston his whole career  get an extra year team option and give him a raise.

As usual turnovers are overlooked by fans. Smart (along with  Brown, btw) are leading the way for Boston - the team is first in the league in turnovers.

Big breakthrough for Smart - he’s always been way too turnover-prone.

I thought we were last in turnovers?

Re: Marcus Smart Deserves a Raise
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2019, 02:40:19 PM »

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Strips the rebound and in same motion a no look to Robert Williams ,guarding both Porzingis and Donic , in control in paint for several layups and a kick out to Green for three ,a track down block  ,hitting dagger threes and taking a flagrant and a low blow.

And he is a stretch six defensive all star.
He wants to be in Boston his whole career  get an extra year team option and give him a raise.

As usual turnovers are overlooked by fans. Smart (along with  Brown, btw) are leading the way for Boston - the team is first in the league in turnovers.

Big breakthrough for Smart - he’s always been way too turnover-prone.

Am I misunderstanding this post?  Smart is tied for best in the league for Ast / TO ratio right now at 6.0, and the Celtics as a team have the best Ast / TO ratio at 2.1.

Their TOV% is 11.3% which is the lowest in the league.  Next lowest are the Pacers are 13.3%

Really the only weakness this team has right now is their rebounding.  They're second to last in REB%.

Re: Marcus Smart Deserves a Raise
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2019, 02:40:19 PM »

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Re: Marcus Smart Deserves a Raise
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2019, 02:49:47 PM »

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Strips the rebound and in same motion a no look to Robert Williams ,guarding both Porzingis and Donic , in control in paint for several layups and a kick out to Green for three ,a track down block  ,hitting dagger threes and taking a flagrant and a low blow.

And he is a stretch six defensive all star.
He wants to be in Boston his whole career  get an extra year team option and give him a raise.

As usual turnovers are overlooked by fans. Smart (along with  Brown, btw) are leading the way for Boston - the team is first in the league in turnovers.

Big breakthrough for Smart - he’s always been way too turnover-prone.

Am I misunderstanding this post?  Smart is tied for best in the league for Ast / TO ratio right now at 6.0, and the Celtics as a team have the best Ast / TO ratio at 2.1.

Their TOV% is 11.3% which is the lowest in the league.  Next lowest are the Pacers are 13.3%

Really the only weakness this team has right now is their rebounding.  They're second to last in REB%.

TP for finding the stats!

Re: Marcus Smart Deserves a Raise
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2019, 03:03:10 PM »

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I thought we were last in turnovers?

Obviously I didn’t say that very well. Maybe I should have said ‘best’.

Strips the rebound and in same motion a no look to Robert Williams ,guarding both Porzingis and Donic , in control in paint for several layups and a kick out to Green for three ,a track down block  ,hitting dagger threes and taking a flagrant and a low blow.

And he is a stretch six defensive all star.
He wants to be in Boston his whole career  get an extra year team option and give him a raise.

As usual turnovers are overlooked by fans. Smart (along with  Brown, btw) are leading the way for Boston - the team is first in the league in turnovers.

Big breakthrough for Smart - he’s always been way too turnover-prone.

Am I misunderstanding this post?  Smart is tied for best in the league for Ast / TO ratio right now at 6.0, and the Celtics as a team have the best Ast / TO ratio at 2.1.

Their TOV% is 11.3% which is the lowest in the league.  Next lowest are the Pacers are 13.3%

Really the only weakness this team has right now is their rebounding.  They're second to last in REB%.

Yes, you’re misunderstanding. My bad.

My point was that Marcus has had a huge breakthrough with turnovers. He’s always been turnover-prone - until this year (so far). He’s only a part of the team being better, though. Kemba has been better than Kyrie, for example... etc.

'I was proud of Marcus Smart. He did a great job of keeping us together. He might not get credit for this game, but the pace that he played at, and his playcalling, some of the plays that he called were great. We obviously have to rely on him, so I’m definitely looking forward to Marcus leading this team in that role.' - Jaylen Brown, January 2021

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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2019, 03:05:48 PM »

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Strips the rebound and in same motion a no look to Robert Williams ,guarding both Porzingis and Donic , in control in paint for several layups and a kick out to Green for three ,a track down block  ,hitting dagger threes and taking a flagrant and a low blow.

And he is a stretch six defensive all star.
He wants to be in Boston his whole career  get an extra year team option and give him a raise.

As usual turnovers are overlooked by fans. Smart (along with  Brown, btw) are leading the way for Boston - the team is first in the league in turnovers.

Big breakthrough for Smart - he’s always been way too turnover-prone.

Am I misunderstanding this post?  Smart is tied for best in the league for Ast / TO ratio right now at 6.0, and the Celtics as a team have the best Ast / TO ratio at 2.1.

Their TOV% is 11.3% which is the lowest in the league.  Next lowest are the Pacers are 13.3%

Really the only weakness this team has right now is their rebounding.  They're second to last in REB%.

TP for finding the stats!

Basketball Reference has an even better number, which is what I was looking at: 10.1%.
'I was proud of Marcus Smart. He did a great job of keeping us together. He might not get credit for this game, but the pace that he played at, and his playcalling, some of the plays that he called were great. We obviously have to rely on him, so I’m definitely looking forward to Marcus leading this team in that role.' - Jaylen Brown, January 2021