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Title: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: Eja117 on March 20, 2018, 09:24:18 PM
Other than the time they had Doc on talking to all the ex Celts I don't recall anything interesting happening during this segment.

KG doesn't seem good for TV to me
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: apc on March 20, 2018, 09:27:06 PM
I agree.
Looks like he is trying too hard to be something ... not sure what
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: Eja117 on March 20, 2018, 10:00:14 PM
Just now. They just talked about cars or tires or something and there was some guy I never heard of. What the heck was that?
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: SparzWizard on March 20, 2018, 10:10:06 PM
Just for Celtics fans only, KG making this a show.

If only this was on ESPN he'd be a better show than those pathetic "expert" ANALysts who likes to talk down on Boston sports teams ;D ;D ;D ::)
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: Who on March 21, 2018, 08:17:20 AM
I don't like it either.

It has a few good moments but they only happen around 10% of the time. Too much filler involved in the show. KG not a good presenter either.
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: Eja117 on March 21, 2018, 09:16:16 AM
KG seems a tad uncomfortable in front of the camera to me
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: jaketwice on March 21, 2018, 10:33:31 AM
KG is just way too intense for TV. Every time he talks I blanch. I admire him as a player, but I don't like him on TV. He's so dominant it seems like all the guests are kissing his butt - at least a little. He would probably do well selling securities or as a corporate lobbyist.

Interesting to think that the most powerful personalities can be too big for TV.
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: Csfan1984 on March 21, 2018, 10:38:24 AM
KG seems a tad uncomfortable in front of the camera to me
I agree. Off camera he seems way better from clips I have watched.
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: Donoghus on March 21, 2018, 12:09:01 PM
The "Players Only" stuff bugs me more.   Those broadcasts are horrific.

Area21 is just unconventional, off the cuff TV.  I can certainly see how its not for everyone.
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: alley oop on March 21, 2018, 01:11:37 PM

KG calls Morris' game winner
Kevin Garnett and Rod Strickland debate about who will attempt the game-winning shot while watching the ending of the Celtics' eventual win against the Thunder.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=22851774
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: ChillyWilly on March 21, 2018, 01:15:33 PM
The entire TNT basketball presentation is TURRUBLE. I refuse to watch it as no part of that broadcast is enjoyable for me.

Maybe my green glasses are too thick to appreciate it.
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: libermaniac on March 21, 2018, 01:21:50 PM
The "Players Only" stuff bugs me more.   Those broadcasts are horrific.

Area21 is just unconventional, off the cuff TV.  I can certainly see how its not for everyone.
What does players only mean? Do they mean no broadcasters who didn’t play the game?  What’s the point and isn’t that discrimination?
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: bknova on March 21, 2018, 01:23:22 PM
The "Players Only" stuff bugs me more.   Those broadcasts are horrific.

Area21 is just unconventional, off the cuff TV.  I can certainly see how its not for everyone.
What does players only mean? Do they mean no broadcasters who didn’t play the game?  What’s the point and isn’t that discrimination?


Its how you get Caron Butler bumbling over all his words whilst doing the first sideline report last night.  That was atrocious!
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: bdm860 on March 21, 2018, 01:43:49 PM
The "Players Only" stuff bugs me more.   Those broadcasts are horrific.

Area21 is just unconventional, off the cuff TV.  I can certainly see how its not for everyone.

It's not until watching those did I realize the importance of the standard dynamics of a broadcast team, which is 1 play-by-play person, and 1-2 color commentators.  With the Players Only broadcasts, it's just 3 color commentators (though technically according to wikipedia, Greg Anthony and Brent Barry are the designated play-by-play person (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_on_TNT_commentators)).  Because of the lack of a true play-by-play person, there's alot of awkward silences followed by multiple people speaking up at the same time, just an overall terrible flow.

It's amazing how you don't even notice how guys like Mike Gorman, Kevin Harlan, Mike Breen, etc. carry a broadcast until they're not there.  If the C's decided to do that, could you imagine a broadcast that was just Tommy and Scal and/or Max?
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: Donoghus on March 21, 2018, 01:53:04 PM
The "Players Only" stuff bugs me more.   Those broadcasts are horrific.

Area21 is just unconventional, off the cuff TV.  I can certainly see how its not for everyone.

It's not until watching those did I realize the importance of the standard dynamics of a broadcast team, which is 1 play-by-play person, and 1-2 color commentators.  With the Players Only broadcasts, it's just 3 color commentators (though technically according to wikipedia, Greg Anthony and Brent Barry are the designated play-by-play person (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_on_TNT_commentators)).  Because of the lack of a true play-by-play person, there's alot of awkward silences followed by multiple people speaking up at the same time, just an overall terrible flow.

It's amazing how you don't even notice how guys like Mike Gorman, Kevin Harlan, Mike Breen, etc. carry a broadcast until they're not there.  If the C's decided to do that, could you imagine a broadcast that was just Tommy and Scal and/or Max?

Yeah, it's really bad without a true play by play guy. 

This is an idea that should be screwed around with at the local or regional tv level.  Not on national telecasts.
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 21, 2018, 01:53:52 PM
i absolutely love it.

It is REAL TV .......not faked and madeup.....

Pure KG. .....
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: j804 on March 21, 2018, 01:54:17 PM
Out of all of them Nate Robinson is the worse. Last night he said you know when they miss the shot that's good defense. Rofl
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: pearljammer10 on March 21, 2018, 02:20:24 PM
Join the club.

Its an awkward brofest without anything really substantial.
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: CelticsElite on March 21, 2018, 04:20:45 PM
Join the club.

Its an awkward brofest without anything really substantial.
that describes about 90% of espn and TNT nba programming
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: Erik on March 21, 2018, 05:05:03 PM
i absolutely love it.

It is REAL TV .......not faked and madeup.....

Pure KG. .....

It's about as real as Jersey Shore. Real (cable) TV doesn't exist. If there is a producer, it's not real. TNT doesn't just put a camera in front of KG's face and hope for the best. That would be an absolute disaster (not that it already isn't). It's at least minimally scripted (topics/gimmicks predetermined) and rehearsed. It just looks real because it's terrible because KG isn't an actor.
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on March 21, 2018, 05:28:16 PM
Pretty much every sports show is terrible and at least this one gets KG paid
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: jambr380 on March 21, 2018, 05:46:28 PM
Fwiw, I actually like what I've heard from Brent Barry. He is articulate and you can tell he prepares and takes the job seriously. I don't think Anthony did a 'bad' job per se (I watched him for the 1st time last night in that role), but he certainly didn't stand out.

I actually think it's the sideline reports and color commentary that needs work in these broadcasts - which is weird since the latter is what former NBA players eventually sometimes do.

As for Area 21 - I tend to agree with eja. I love love love KG, but there is not much about the show that interests me. I assumed it was just a difference of opinion/personalities.
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: HomerSapien on March 21, 2018, 06:05:12 PM
Fwiw, I actually like what I've heard from Brent Barry. He is articulate and you can tell he prepares and takes the job seriously. I don't think Anthony did a 'bad' job per se (I watched him for the 1st time last night in that role), but he certainly didn't stand out.

I actually think it's the sideline reports and color commentary that needs work in these broadcasts - which is weird since the latter is what former NBA players eventually sometimes do.

As for Area 21 - I tend to agree with eja. I love love love KG, but there is not much about the show that interests me. I assumed it was just a difference of opinion/personalities.
The color commentary on Players Only too often devolves into "back in the day" stories about what it was like to play in the league rather than actual analysis of what I'm currently watching.  I don't want to hear about how tough things were in 1994 in the middle of a game I actually am invested in - tell me more about the nuances of what I'm watching instead please.
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: Bucketgetter on March 21, 2018, 06:07:52 PM
i absolutely love it.

It is REAL TV .......not faked and madeup.....

Pure KG. .....
That's what TV is lol
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: Billz401 on March 21, 2018, 06:22:49 PM
The "Players Only" stuff bugs me more.   Those broadcasts are horrific.

Area21 is just unconventional, off the cuff TV.  I can certainly see how its not for everyone.
What does players only mean? Do they mean no broadcasters who didn’t play the game?  What’s the point and isn’t that discrimination?


Its how you get Caron Butler bumbling over all his words whilst doing the first sideline report last night.  That was atrocious!
Also because they've dedicated all the normal pregame guys, play by play and color commentators, as well as sideline reporters to the March madness games. Just when u think TNT broadcasts couldn't get worse, they go and do this haha
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on March 21, 2018, 07:25:46 PM
I've watched a few of them and enjoyed them.

He's unconventional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wGVZpKQUsU

LOL dude is SERIOUS in this video. I love it.

There will never be another one like KG. God made him, laughed out loud and turned him loose on the world.
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 21, 2018, 07:28:46 PM
The "Players Only" stuff bugs me more.   Those broadcasts are horrific.

Area21 is just unconventional, off the cuff TV.  I can certainly see how its not for everyone.
What does players only mean? Do they mean no broadcasters who didn’t play the game?  What’s the point and isn’t that discrimination?


Its how you get Caron Butler bumbling over all his words whilst doing the first sideline report last night.  That was atrocious!
Also because they've dedicated all the normal pregame guys, play by play and color commentators, as well as sideline reporters to the March madness games. Just when u think TNT broadcasts couldn't get worse, they go and do this haha

I'd rather they just grab some local radio/tv broadcast personalities, or some broadcast journalism students from nearby universities.
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: 2short on March 21, 2018, 08:57:38 PM
Love KG
Show is unwatchable .  That said, love Shaq but he and Barkley are tough to take as well.  Kenny Smith is only one of group that has substance in what he says but the other two don't let him talk that much.
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: Beat LA on March 21, 2018, 10:37:58 PM
Fwiw, I actually like what I've heard from Brent Barry. He is articulate and you can tell he prepares and takes the job seriously. I don't think Anthony did a 'bad' job per se (I watched him for the 1st time last night in that role), but he certainly didn't stand out.

I actually think it's the sideline reports and color commentary that needs work in these broadcasts - which is weird since the latter is what former NBA players eventually sometimes do.

As for Area 21 - I tend to agree with eja. I love love love KG, but there is not much about the show that interests me. I assumed it was just a difference of opinion/personalities.

Brent Barry? Seriously? Dude = snoozefest, imo, lol, but Greg Anthony is awful, as well. I have to say, though, that I absolutely love Area 21. I happened upon a live feed of the show on YouTube during the game, last night, and it was so much better than watching the actual contest, imo, lol. Idk, maybe it's just me, but I love how it's kind of like walking into a barbershop or whatever full of NBA legends just shooting the breeze with a game on in the background. Now if only I could be Wonder Boy, lol. #DreamJob
Title: Re: I don't get Area21. There. I said it.
Post by: action781 on March 21, 2018, 10:39:47 PM
The "Players Only" stuff bugs me more.   Those broadcasts are horrific.

Area21 is just unconventional, off the cuff TV.  I can certainly see how its not for everyone.

It's not until watching those did I realize the importance of the standard dynamics of a broadcast team, which is 1 play-by-play person, and 1-2 color commentators.  With the Players Only broadcasts, it's just 3 color commentators (though technically according to wikipedia, Greg Anthony and Brent Barry are the designated play-by-play person (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_on_TNT_commentators)).  Because of the lack of a true play-by-play person, there's alot of awkward silences followed by multiple people speaking up at the same time, just an overall terrible flow.

It's amazing how you don't even notice how guys like Mike Gorman, Kevin Harlan, Mike Breen, etc. carry a broadcast until they're not there.  If the C's decided to do that, could you imagine a broadcast that was just Tommy and Scal and/or Max?

OMG, I texted the exact same thing to my friends last night about how that broadcast made me realize the importance of a play by play guy.  Greg Anthony was attempting to fill that role at times, but didn't do a good job of it.  The three of them all were talking at the same time a few times which just meant you couldn't hear any of them.  I mistook Rip Hamilton (was that his debut?) for C Webb for most of the game... which is just about the worst insult I can lay upon a commentator.

OK back to the point of Area 21.  Yeah, its not great.  KG seems like he tries to hard to be cool.  Its often worth not much but sometimes cool or funny.