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Trade Irving for the sake of the team
« on: January 02, 2019, 11:34:27 PM »

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Everyone plays better. Team defense is better. Hayward actually gets to shoot/make plays.... this team is not built for Irving and vice versa

Trade Irving for multiple 1sts and Jamal Murray or Gary Harris or Buddy Hield or Dennis Smith Jr.

Re: Trade Irving for the sake of the team
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2019, 11:38:50 PM »

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Denver, Sac, and Dallas literally giggle at you.

Maybe Dallas listens for a while but probably no.

"Gimme the ball, gimme the ball". Freddy Quimby, 1994.

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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2019, 11:40:39 PM »

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Hayward and the other guys can shoot and make plays with Kyrie on the floor.  He's not the one stopping them.  They are.  They need to bring the same aggressiveness and confidence when Kyrie is playing.  They and Brad need to figure this out.  The team is not a true contender without Kyrie.
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Re: Trade Irving for the sake of the team
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2019, 11:43:14 PM »

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have you lost your mind ....lol  ;D

Re: Trade Irving for the sake of the team
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2019, 11:44:10 PM »

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Where did D.O.S. go with his Small Sample Size monster meme? Because we could sure use that about now.

Are people literally already forgetting the monster 40/10 Christmas game where Kyrie virtually singlehandedly won us the game?? In today’s game, you don’t win championships without a player of Kyrie’s caliber, and right now we don’t have anyone else near that level of player.

Re: Trade Irving for the sake of the team
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2019, 11:47:38 PM »

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Denver, Sac, and Dallas literally giggle at you.

Maybe Dallas listens for a while but probably no.

Huh? Every single one of those teams would be THRILLED to trade those guys for Kyrie, as none of them will ever be able to even hold Kyrie’s jock strap.

The only reason they might hesitate is because they’d worry he’d leave this summer.

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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2019, 11:58:15 PM »

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Where did D.O.S. go with his Small Sample Size monster meme? Because we could sure use that about now.

Are people literally already forgetting the monster 40/10 Christmas game where Kyrie virtually singlehandedly won us the game?? In today’s game, you don’t win championships without a player of Kyrie’s caliber, and right now we don’t have anyone else near that level of player.

Kyrie played in that game? I thought that was Terry Rozier with a beard.
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PF: Giannis Antetokounmpo/Robert Covington
C: Kristaps Porzingis/Bobby Portis/James Wiseman

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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2019, 11:58:45 PM »

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Keep Kyrie, but let him walk at the end of the year.

Sign a bigger max player after the season.

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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2019, 12:04:20 AM »

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Can I just create overreaction thread one, two, and three after each game? It’s probably difficult to come up with a new title for these threads. That way, we could save more brain power for our hot takes.

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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2019, 12:05:09 AM »

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Keep Kyrie, but let him walk at the end of the year.

Sign a bigger max player after the season.


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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2019, 12:07:47 AM »

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Keep Kyrie, but let him walk at the end of the year.

Sign a bigger max player after the season.



Sure it is.

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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2019, 12:08:19 AM »

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Where did D.O.S. go with his Small Sample Size monster meme? Because we could sure use that about now.

Are people literally already forgetting the monster 40/10 Christmas game where Kyrie virtually singlehandedly won us the game?? In today’s game, you don’t win championships without a player of Kyrie’s caliber, and right now we don’t have anyone else near that level of player.

you are mainly "starstruck" and is unable to see that.... Hayward can't get his game going (because he is more than a spot up shooter), same for Brown, Rozier, Tatum in some ways...

Maybe the reason Kyrie single handedly won us that game is because he was the guy that put the team in that situation in the first place.....the team synergy plain out stinks with him on the floor. And I can't believe my eyes but he is as bad on the defensive end as IT4. Maybe even worst.... just no 2nd effort. No rebounds, no steals, no in your face defense.....  like I have said many times, PG defense is the first line of defense. Once that is weak/breaks down..... the rest of the team has to compensate

The recipe to properly build a team around a PG like Irving is to have a player like a Williams on C (to bail out Kyrie),  Horford at PF (3 and D),  Ariza at SF (3 and D),  Beal at SG (3 and D).....  Let Irving basically do whatever he wants on the offensive end

The recipe to properly build a team around CBS/Hayward is this current roster without Irving/Rondo type excessive ball handling/ball holders and substitute with Murray, Hield, Beal who are system guards



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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2019, 12:11:17 AM »

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Keep Kyrie, but let him walk at the end of the year.

Sign a bigger max player after the season.

If the Celts make it to ECF or Finals carried single handedly Irving heroics.... pay him whatever

But at this rate and how useless Hayward, Brown look due to Irving "hot dogging it" especially late in games, I doubt it this team will go that far...   

There is a disconnect that can't be corrected unless either Irving or many key players get brainwashed to become totally different players 

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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2019, 12:36:23 AM »

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Where did D.O.S. go with his Small Sample Size monster meme? Because we could sure use that about now.

Are people literally already forgetting the monster 40/10 Christmas game where Kyrie virtually singlehandedly won us the game?? In today’s game, you don’t win championships without a player of Kyrie’s caliber, and right now we don’t have anyone else near that level of player.

you are mainly "starstruck" and is unable to see that.... Hayward can't get his game going (because he is more than a spot up shooter), same for Brown, Rozier, Tatum in some ways...

Maybe the reason Kyrie single handedly won us that game is because he was the guy that put the team in that situation in the first place.....the team synergy plain out stinks with him on the floor. And I can't believe my eyes but he is as bad on the defensive end as IT4. Maybe even worst.... just no 2nd effort. No rebounds, no steals, no in your face defense.....  like I have said many times, PG defense is the first line of defense. Once that is weak/breaks down..... the rest of the team has to compensate

The recipe to properly build a team around a PG like Irving is to have a player like a Williams on C (to bail out Kyrie),  Horford at PF (3 and D),  Ariza at SF (3 and D),  Beal at SG (3 and D).....  Let Irving basically do whatever he wants on the offensive end

The recipe to properly build a team around CBS/Hayward is this current roster without Irving/Rondo type excessive ball handling/ball holders and substitute with Murray, Hield, Beal who are system guards

Hayward's last 30 point game was with Kyrie in the lineup. The only thing holding him back from putting up that effort consistently is the major injury he had and the 2 surgeries needed to fix it.

P.S. Kyrie is averaging a career high in rebounds (including a team best 10 in the game you questioned his effort in), he's 2nd on the team in steals, he's one of the team leaders in charges taken and deflections. He's not going to make any All defensive teams but saying he's as bad as IT makes me wonder if you've actually watched the games at all.
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2019, 12:41:39 AM »

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Keep Kyrie, but let him walk at the end of the year.

Sign a bigger max player after the season.



I'm really hoping he was being sarcastic. You don't have to be a cap expert to know this team is capped out even before Kyrie resigns.
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PG: Kyrie Irving/Patty Mills/Jalen Brunson
SG: OG Anunoby/Norman Powell/Matisse Thybulle
SF: Gordon Hayward/Demar Derozan
PF: Giannis Antetokounmpo/Robert Covington
C: Kristaps Porzingis/Bobby Portis/James Wiseman