2011 CB Historical Draft - Draft Thread

[StartOrien]

I like your team a lot KC, but I'm concerned about your teams' ability to cover the wide body bigs.

For example, I think the Duncan/Ewing combo gives a lot of teams fits but I don't know if you have a bench option to counter / slow them down. 

[Roy H.]

I like your team a lot KC, but I'm concerned about your teams' ability to cover the wide body bigs.

For example, I think the Duncan/Ewing combo gives a lot of teams fits but I don't know if you have a bench option to counter / slow them down. 

It's always hard when you matchup one team's starters with another team's bench, I think that Cowens and Unseld are a very strong defensive combo off the bench.

[StartOrien]

I like your team a lot KC, but I'm concerned about your teams' ability to cover the wide body bigs.

For example, I think the Duncan/Ewing combo gives a lot of teams fits but I don't know if you have a bench option to counter / slow them down. 

It's always hard when you matchup one team's starters with another team's bench, I think that Cowens and Unseld are a very strong defensive combo off the bench.

Oh, my bad, I'm speaking of his entire team, not just the bench.

[Roy H.]

I like your team a lot KC, but I'm concerned about your teams' ability to cover the wide body bigs.

For example, I think the Duncan/Ewing combo gives a lot of teams fits but I don't know if you have a bench option to counter / slow them down. 

It's always hard when you matchup one team's starters with another team's bench, I think that Cowens and Unseld are a very strong defensive combo off the bench.

Oh, my bad, I'm speaking of his entire team, not just the bench.

In that case, then, is there any real doubt that Hakeem can defend any center, ever?  He played against Shaq, Ewing, Robinson, (older) Kareem, etc., and held his own against all of them.

Similarly, Mo Lucas was a very good defensive player.

Top-to-bottom, I think Seattle is either the best or second best defensive team (along with LA).  I think their top four defensive bigs are as strong a defensive location as any I've seen (although to some, size may be a concern).

[indeedproceed]

Which centers can realistically limit Shaq during his superhuman year?

[Who]

Which centers can realistically limit Shaq during his superhuman year?

Team defense will be the best way to limit Shaq.

Teams with long active help defenders to control the amount of time Shaq spends on the ball.

[Rondo2287]

Which centers can realistically limit Shaq during his superhuman year?

[Fafnir]

Which centers can realistically limit Shaq during his superhuman year?

He "only" scored 22 per game on Zo that year. Also Mtumbo held him to 16 per game that year with the Hawks.

The Hawks lost both games, but only by small margins. Which is pretty good as the Hawks were a bad team.

[indeedproceed]

Which centers can realistically limit Shaq during his superhuman year?

Team defense will be the best way to limit Shaq.

Teams with long active help defenders to control the amount of time Shaq spends on the ball.

Just answer the question, Senator!

Which centers can realistically limit Shaq during his superhuman year?

He "only" scored 22 per game on Zo that year. Also Mtumbo held him to 16 per game that year with the Hawks.

The Hawks lost both games, but only by small margins. Which is pretty good as the Hawks were a bad team.

Interesting...and well done with the quick response.

[StartOrien]

Which centers can realistically limit Shaq during his superhuman year?

Russell, Chamberlain, Duncan.

Kareem? (that's a question out of ignorance, not skepticism)

[Fafnir]

Which centers can realistically limit Shaq during his superhuman year?

Team defense will be the best way to limit Shaq.

Teams with long active help defenders to control the amount of time Shaq spends on the ball.

Just answer the question, Senator!

Which centers can realistically limit Shaq during his superhuman year?

He "only" scored 22 per game on Zo that year. Also Mtumbo held him to 16 per game that year with the Hawks.

The Hawks lost both games, but only by small margins. Which is pretty good as the Hawks were a bad team.

Interesting...and well done with the quick response.

Also Shawn Kemp's Cavs did well against him relative to his season averages. But I don't know who was defending him really in those games.

[Roy H.]

Which centers can realistically limit Shaq during his superhuman year?

As Fafnir said, Shaq struggled against the Hawks (16 ppg on 39.5% shooting).  He also had trouble against the Rockets (19 ppg on 35.7% shooting), and he was mediocre in relative terms against the Blazers (20.5 ppg, 42.9% shooting).

So, Dikembe, Hakeem, and the Sabonis/Rasheed combo (plus, to some extent, Mourning, although Shaq shot 61%).

[Who]

Although, Shaq did destroy an old Hakeem in the playoffs 12 months prior (1999 first round) to that and destroyed Dikembe in the playoffs 12 months after (2001 Finals).

I wouldn't read too much into a few regular season matchups.

[Roy H.]

Which centers can realistically limit Shaq during his superhuman year?

Russell, Chamberlain, Duncan.

Kareem?

I think those guys would all limit Shaq (as in keep him below his averages), as would Dikembe, Robinson, Ewing, Walton...  Just about any great defensive center in this draft could at least make life difficult for Shaq.

[indeedproceed]

Which centers can realistically limit Shaq during his superhuman year?

Russell, Chamberlain, Duncan.

Kareem?

See I say pretty surely those answers are No, Maybe, and No.

Russell would do his best to hold Shaq up, but he's not strong enough. Kareem was long enough to bother Shaq, but Shaq would absolutely eat Kareem alive. I don't know how well Shaq would defend him, but Kareem would get ran over.