2022 Draft

[liam]

Prediction: if the Celtics make the pick...if...the player they select doesn't make next year's roster.

You guys are going to go on and on about all these guys, their measurements and all the players they are comparable to and it's going to be all for nothing.

Any 2nd rounders that are going to be on the team, are going to be from previous year's drafts. Begarin and Yam.

I think Begarin makes squad next season.  Doubt Yam does.  Yam doesn't seem to have the physicality to plan in Ime's system, IMO.

Yam was hurt in Summer League last year. He needs to get stronger but he can play. I'm not sure if there's a place for Yam on this team so he might never be brought over...

[nickagneta]

Prediction: if the Celtics make the pick...if...the player they select doesn't make next year's roster.

You guys are going to go on and on about all these guys, their measurements and all the players they are comparable to and it's going to be all for nothing.

Any 2nd rounders that are going to be on the team, are going to be from previous year's drafts. Begarin and Yam.

I totally agree but I like to look at these guys anyway and there is talent at the end of the 2nd round. A role player could be there.

No there isn't.

Over the last 9 drafts there were 2 players that played over a thousand NBA minutes that were chosen after pick 52. Shake Milton and Aaron Wiggins. Most selected in that range never played an NBA minute.

[footey]

Prediction: if the Celtics make the pick...if...the player they select doesn't make next year's roster.

You guys are going to go on and on about all these guys, their measurements and all the players they are comparable to and it's going to be all for nothing.

Any 2nd rounders that are going to be on the team, are going to be from previous year's drafts. Begarin and Yam.

I think Begarin makes squad next season.  Doubt Yam does.  Yam doesn't seem to have the physicality to plan in Ime's system, IMO.

Yam was hurt in Summer League last year. He needs to get stronger but he can play. I'm not sure if there's a place for Yam on this team so he might never be brought over...

He has a slight build, and seemed overwhelmed before he got hurt. Had one good game IIRC, game 1 in summer league.  How has he done in the new league he played in this past season? I haven't really followed him. I know it was a step up in terms of  competition.

[liam]

Prediction: if the Celtics make the pick...if...the player they select doesn't make next year's roster.

You guys are going to go on and on about all these guys, their measurements and all the players they are comparable to and it's going to be all for nothing.

Any 2nd rounders that are going to be on the team, are going to be from previous year's drafts. Begarin and Yam.

I totally agree but I like to look at these guys anyway and there is talent at the end of the 2nd round. A role player could be there.

No there isn't.

Over the last 9 drafts there were 2 players that played over a thousand NBA minutes that were chosen after pick 52. Shake Milton and Aaron Wiggins. Most selected in that range never played an NBA minute.

I bet there are at least 3-4 guys in this 2nd round that will play a couple of years as role players.


https://nbadraftroom.com/2022-nba-draft-sleepers/

Jake LaRavia compares to a guy like Georges Niang who was the 50th pick.

[liam]

Prediction: if the Celtics make the pick...if...the player they select doesn't make next year's roster.

You guys are going to go on and on about all these guys, their measurements and all the players they are comparable to and it's going to be all for nothing.

Any 2nd rounders that are going to be on the team, are going to be from previous year's drafts. Begarin and Yam.

I think Begarin makes squad next season.  Doubt Yam does.  Yam doesn't seem to have the physicality to plan in Ime's system, IMO.

Yam was hurt in Summer League last year. He needs to get stronger but he can play. I'm not sure if there's a place for Yam on this team so he might never be brought over...

He has a slight build, and seemed overwhelmed before he got hurt. Had one good game IIRC, game 1 in summer league.  How has he done in the new league he played in this past season? I haven't really followed him. I know it was a step up in terms of  competition.

I think he has about the same per 36 numbers but about half the minutes.

[nickagneta]

Prediction: if the Celtics make the pick...if...the player they select doesn't make next year's roster.

You guys are going to go on and on about all these guys, their measurements and all the players they are comparable to and it's going to be all for nothing.

Any 2nd rounders that are going to be on the team, are going to be from previous year's drafts. Begarin and Yam.

I totally agree but I like to look at these guys anyway and there is talent at the end of the 2nd round. A role player could be there.

No there isn't.

Over the last 9 drafts there were 2 players that played over a thousand NBA minutes that were chosen after pick 52. Shake Milton and Aaron Wiggins. Most selected in that range never played an NBA minute.

I bet there are at least 3-4 guys in this 2nd round that will play a couple of years as role players.


https://nbadraftroom.com/2022-nba-draft-sleepers/

You're moving the goalposts. You said end of 2nd round there was talent and now you're saying all of second round.

Yes, the 2nd round always has guys that become role playing guys. But that's different at the end of the 2nd round at pick #53, where the Celtics could be drafting, as was your original contention. There's just little to no talent down there in most drafts.

[liam]

Prediction: if the Celtics make the pick...if...the player they select doesn't make next year's roster.

You guys are going to go on and on about all these guys, their measurements and all the players they are comparable to and it's going to be all for nothing.

Any 2nd rounders that are going to be on the team, are going to be from previous year's drafts. Begarin and Yam.

I totally agree but I like to look at these guys anyway and there is talent at the end of the 2nd round. A role player could be there.

No there isn't.

Over the last 9 drafts there were 2 players that played over a thousand NBA minutes that were chosen after pick 52. Shake Milton and Aaron Wiggins. Most selected in that range never played an NBA minute.

I bet there are at least 3-4 guys in this 2nd round that will play a couple of years as role players.


https://nbadraftroom.com/2022-nba-draft-sleepers/

You're moving the goalposts. You said end of 2nd round there was talent and now you're saying all of second round.

Yes, the 2nd round always has guys that become role playing guys. But that's different at the end of the 2nd round at pick #53, where the Celtics could be drafting, as was your original contention. There's just little to no talent down there in most drafts.

OK, but Jake LaRavia compares to a guy like Georges Niang who was the 50th pick. There is talent that's all I'm saying. Not top talent but some role player talent.

Undrafted players in the NBA:

1.   Christian WoodChristian Wood United States
C / PF | 6'9" | HOU   84   83   85
2.   Fred VanVleetNBA All-StarFred VanVleet United States
SG / PG | 6'1" | TOR   83   82   35
3.   Luguentz DortLuguentz Dort Canada
SG / SF | 6'3" | OKC   79   77   85
4.   Chris BoucherChris Boucher Saint Lucia
PF / C | 6'9" | TOR   78   70   80
5.   Dorian Finney-SmithDorian Finney-Smith United States
SF / PF | 6'7" | DAL   78   82   84

6.   Terence DavisTerence Davis United States
SF / SG | 6'4" | SAC   78   74   75
7.   Gary Payton IIInjuredGary Payton II United States
SG / PG | 6'3" | GSW   78   80   75
8.   Kendrick NunnKendrick Nunn United States
PG / SG | 6'2" | LAL   78   81   75
9.   Seth CurrySeth Curry United States
SG / PG | 6'2" | BKN   78   86   36
10.   Alex CarusoAlex Caruso United States
PG / SG | 6'5" | CHI   78   79   75
11.   T.J. McConnellT.J. McConnell United States
PG | 6'1" | IND   77   76   25
12.   Javonte GreenJavonte Green United States
SG / SF | 6'4" | CHI   77   79   85
13.   Caleb MartinCaleb Martin United States
SG / SF | 6'5" | MIA   77   82   70

14.   Naz ReidNaz Reid United States
C / PF | 6'9" | MIN   77   79   75
15.   Joe InglesJoe Ingles Australia
SF / SG | 6'8" | POR   76   80   45
16.   Oshae BrissettOshae Brissett Canada
PF / C | 6'7" | IND   76   76   75
17.   Kenrich WilliamsKenrich Williams United States
SF / PG | 6'6" | OKC   76   77   65
18.   JaMychal GreenJaMychal Green United States
PF / C | 6'8" | DEN   76   67   70
19.   Khem BirchKhem Birch Canada
C / PF | 6'9" | TOR   76   55   70
20.   Drew EubanksDrew Eubanks United States
C / PF | 6'9" | POR   76   30   70
21.   Dewayne DedmonDewayne Dedmon United States
C | 7'0" | MIA   76   78   60
22.   Duncan RobinsonDuncan Robinson United States
SG / SF | 6'7" | MIA   75   86   70
23.   J.J. BareaJ.J. Barea Puerto Rico
PG / SG | 5'10" | Free Agent   75   82   25
24.   Robert CovingtonRobert Covington United States
PF / C | 6'7" | LAC   75   79   65
25.   Daniel TheisDaniel Theis Germany
PF / C | 6'9" | BOS   75   71   78
26.   Allonzo TrierAllonzo Trier United States
SG / PG | 6'4" | Free Agent   75   82   70
27.   Amir CoffeyAmir Coffey United States
SF / PF | 6'7" | LAC   75   80   40
28.   Jordan McLaughlinJordan McLaughlin United States
PG / SG | 5'11" | MIN   75   64   65
29.   John KoncharJohn Konchar United States
SF / SG | 6'5" | MEM   75   84   45
30.   Brandon GoodwinBrandon Goodwin United States
PG | 6'0" | CLE   75   78   65
31.   Max StrusMax Strus United States
SF / SG | 6'5" | MIA   75   83   65
32.   Aron BaynesAron Baynes Australia
C | 6'10" | Free Agent   74   65   65
33.   Maxi KleberMaxi Kleber Germany
PF / C | 6'10" | DAL   74   75   75
34.   Torrey CraigTorrey Craig United States
SF / PF | 6'7" | PHX   74   75   60
35.   David NwabaDavid Nwaba United States
SF / SG | 6'5" | HOU   74   74   75
36.   Royce O’NealeRoyce O’Neale United States
SF / PF | 6'5" | UTA   74   84   70
37.   P.J. DozierP.J. Dozier United States
SF / SG | 6'6" | Free Agent   74   74   75
38.   Boban MarjanovicBoban Marjanovic Serbia
C | 7'4" | DAL   74   63   60
39.   Derrick Jones Jr.Derrick Jones Jr. United States
SF / PF | 6'6" | CHI   74   75   94
40.   Damion LeeDamion Lee United States
SG / PG | 6'5" | GSW   74   77   65
41.   Dean WadeDean Wade United States
PF | 6'9" | CLE   74   79   75
42.   Ish SmithIsh Smith United States
PG | 6'0" | WAS   74   82   30
43.   Moses BrownMoses Brown United States
C | 7'2" | CLE   73   26   60
44.   Quinn CookQuinn Cook United States
PG | 6'1" | Free Agent   73   81   30
45.   Juan ToscanoJuan Toscano United States
PF / SF | 6'6" | GSW   73   73   88
46.   Bryn ForbesBryn Forbes United States
SG / PG | 6'2" | DEN   73   85   40
47.   Matt ThomasMatt Thomas United States
SG / PG | 6'3" | CHI   73   83   55
48.   Justin HolidayJustin Holiday United States
SF / SG | 6'6" | SAC   73   79   73
49.   Chris SilvaChris Silva Gabon
C / PF | 6'8" | Free Agent   73   72   65
50.   Chris ClemonsChris Clemons United States
PG | 5'9" | Free Agent   73   78   60
51.   Tyler CookTyler Cook United States
PF / SF | 6'8" | CHI   73   30   70
52.   Gabe VincentGabe Vincent Nigeria United States
SG / PG | 6'3" | MIA   73   80   45
53.   Kent BazemoreKent Bazemore United States
SG / SF | 6'4" | LAL   72   79   75
54.   Gary ClarkGary Clark United States
PF | 6'6" | NOP   72   82   60
55.   Danuel HouseDanuel House United States
SF / PF | 6'6" | UTA   72   82   75
56.   Chris ChiozzaChris Chiozza United States
PG | 5'11" | GSW   72   75   30
57.   Vincent PoirierVincent Poirier France
C | 7'0" | Free Agent   72   55   60
58.   Cristiano FelicioCristiano Felicio Brazil
C | 6'10" | Free Agent   72   25   78
59.   Tacko FallTacko Fall Senegal
C | 7'5" | Free Agent   71   30   65
60.   Nicolo MelliNicolo Melli Italy
PF / C | 6'9" | Free Agent   71   68   50
61.   Ky BowmanKy Bowman United States
PG | 6'1" | Free Agent   71   73   70
62.   Yogi FerrellYogi Ferrell United States
PG / SG | 6'0" | Free Agent   71   73   30
63.   Yuta WatanabeYuta Watanabe Japan
SF / PF | 6'9" | TOR   71   79   60
64.   Rodney McGruderRodney McGruder United States
SG / PG | 6'4" | DET   71   82   50
65.   Johnathan MotleyJohnathan Motley United States
C / PF | 6'8" | Free Agent   71   50   75
66.   JaKarr SampsonJaKarr Sampson United States
PF / SF | 6'7" | Free Agent   71   68   75
67.   Troy DanielsTroy Daniels United States
SG | 6'4" | Free Agent   71   79   35
68.   Treveon GrahamTreveon Graham United States
SF / PF | 6'5" | Free Agent   71   68   70
69.   Udonis HaslemUdonis Haslem United States
PF / C | 6'8" | MIA   70   47   61
70.   Deonte BurtonDeonte Burton United States
SF / SG | 6'4" | Free Agent   70   60   75
71.   Langston GallowayLangston Galloway United States
SG / SF | 6'1" | Free Agent   70   76   55
72.   Tim FrazierTim Frazier United States
PG | 6'0" | Free Agent   70   77   70
73.   Tyler JohnsonTyler Johnson United States
PG / SG | 6'3" | Free Agent   70   81   75
74.   Mychal MulderMychal Mulder Canada
SG / PG | 6'3" | MIA   70   70   55
75.   Anthony TolliverAnthony Tolliver United States
PF | 6'8" | Free Agent   70   75   55
76.   DaQuan JeffriesDaQuan Jeffries United States
SF / SG | 6'5" | Free Agent   70   73   75
77.   Garrett TempleGarrett Temple United States
SG / SF | 6'5" | NOP   70   74   30
78.   Juwan MorganJuwan Morgan United States
PF | 6'8" | BOS   70   70   65
79.   Luke KornetLuke Kornet United States
C | 7'2" | BOS   70   70   60
80.   Shaquille HarrisonShaquille Harrison United States
PG / SG | 6'7" | Free Agent   70   77   70
81.   Chasson RandleChasson Randle United States
PG / SG | 6'2" | Free Agent   70   78   44
82.   Paul WatsonPaul Watson United States
SF / SG | 6'6" | Free Agent   70   72   60
83.   Devontae CacokDevontae Cacok United States
C / PF | 6'7" | SAS   70   25   70
84.   Alfonzo McKinnieAlfonzo McKinnie United States
SF / PF | 6'7" | Free Agent   70   80   65
85.   Donta HallDonta Hall United States
C / PF | 6'9" | Free Agent   70   66   70
86.   Johnathan WilliamsJohnathan Williams United States
PF / C | 6'9" | Free Agent   70   60   70
87.   Marko GuduricMarko Guduric Serbia
SG / SF | 6'6" | Free Agent   69   73   55
88.   Jaylen AdamsJaylen Adams United States
PG | 6'2" | Free Agent   69   77   25
89.   Jeremy PargoJeremy Pargo United States
PG / SG | 6'2" | Free Agent   69   75   44
90.   Derrick Walton Jr.Derrick Walton Jr. United States
PG | 6'0" | Free Agent   69   89   35
91.   Vic LawVic Law United States
PF / SF | 6'7" | Free Agent   69   79   70
92.   Matthew DellavedovaMatthew Dellavedova Australia
PG | 6'3" | Free Agent   69   58   25
93.   Amile JeffersonAmile Jefferson United States
PF / C | 6'9" | Free Agent   69   44   70
94.   Kenny WootenKenny Wooten United States
PF | 6'8" | Free Agent   69   39   80
95.   Malcolm MillerMalcolm Miller United States
SF / SG | 6'7" | Free Agent   69   84   75
96.   Cameron ReynoldsCameron Reynolds United States
SG / SF | 6'7" | Free Agent   69   83   65
97.   William HowardWilliam Howard France
SF | 6'8" | Free Agent   69   80   65
98.   Jalen LecqueJalen Lecque United States
PG / SG | 6'3" | Free Agent   68   64   89
99.   Louis KingLouis King United States
SF | 6'7" | Free Agent   68   74   75
100.   Jontay PorterJontay Porter United States
PF / C | 6'11" | Free Agent   68   75   70
101.   Zach Norvell Jr.Zach Norvell Jr. United States
SG / SF | 6'5" | Free Agent   68   81   65
102.   Eric MikaEric Mika United States
C / PF | 6'10" | Free Agent   68   42   75
103.   Daryl MaconDaryl Macon United States
SG / PG | 6'2" | Free Agent   68   81   35
104.   Theo PinsonTheo Pinson United States
SG / PG | 6'5" | DAL   68   55   75
105.   Shamorie PondsShamorie Ponds United States
PG | 6'0" | Free Agent   68   72   35
106.   Stanton KiddStanton Kidd United States
PF | 6'6" | Free Agent   68   74   55
107.   Joe ChealeyJoe Chealey United States
PG | 6'3" | Free Agent   68   72   40
108.   Adam MokokaAdam Mokoka France
SG / SF | 6'5" | Free Agent   68   70   75
109.   J.P. MacuraJ.P. Macura United States
SG / PG | 6'5" | Free Agent   68   76   35
110.   Marques BoldenMarques Bolden United States
C | 6'10" | Free Agent   68   49   80
111.   Naz Mitrou-LongNaz Mitrou-Long Canada
PG / SG | 6'3" | Free Agent   68   77   45
112.   Levi RandolphLevi Randolph United States
SG / SF | 6'5" | Free Agent   68   79   55
113.   Michael FrazierMichael Frazier United States
SG / PG | 6'3" | Free Agent   68   77   70
114.   Kyle AlexanderKyle Alexander Canada
PF / C | 6'10" | Free Agent   68   64   70
115.   Tariq OwensTariq Owens United States
PF / SF | 6'10" | Free Agent   68   69   75
116.   Dusty HannahsDusty Hannahs United States
SG | 6'3" | Free Agent   68   78   26
117.   Josh MagetteJosh Magette United States
PG | 6'1" | Free Agent   68   74   27
118.   Matt MooneyMatt Mooney United States
SG / PG | 6'2" | Free Agent   68   79   25
119.   Malik NewmanMalik Newman United States
SG / PG | 6'3" | Free Agent   68   78   50
120.   B.J. JohnsonB.J. Johnson United States
SF / PF | 6'8" | Free Agent   68   75   70
121.   Jarrod UthoffJarrod Uthoff United States
PF / PF | 6'9" | Free Agent   67   80   60
122.   Jared HarperJared Harper United States
PG | 5'10" | NOP   67   77   25
123.   Jeremiah MartinJeremiah Martin United States
PG / SG | 6'2" | Free Agent   67   70   70
124.   Antonius ClevelandAntonius Cleveland United States
SG / SF | 6'6" | Free Agent   67   73   65
125.   Zylan CheathamZylan Cheatham United States
PF / SF | 6'5" | Free Agent   67   69   75
126.   Josh GrayJosh Gray United States
PG | 6'0" | Free Agent   67   80   25
127.   Josh ReavesJosh Reaves United States
SG / PG | 6'4" | Free Agent   67   76   60

[liam]

Jake LaRavia has pulled out of the draft.


I guess I'm back on Peter Kiss...

 

[nickagneta]

I spent a couple weeks in California last year and got to see a couple Santa Clara games and met Jalen Williams. Dude was really good and looooooonnnnnnggggg.

Saw his measurements come in at 6'5.75" 7'2" wingspan and 8'9" standing reach. For a guard.

Watch him. Probably going to go high 2nd round. He'll be a NBA player.

BTW ..he's a quality human being too.

[gouki88]

Combine measurements are out and I plan on diving into them deeper tomorrow but one thing that stands out to me is that Drew Timme measured better then I expected.

6’8.25” ( no shoes)
231 lbs
7’2 wingspan

These are in line with what I suspect Theis would measure at. Not great but that length surprised me. Given his college production and that surprising length I’m now wondering if he isn’t an option in the 2nd round.

Did not think he had a wingspan that decent. So he's essentially 6'10" in shoes with a 7'2" wingspan. Makes me wonder if he could be coached into decent defence

I don’t think he’s athletic enough to play defense at the next level.

If he can translate his post play and passing to the next level it's fine to take a 2nd round flyer on him.

I just don't want us to. Doesn't fit our identity really

lazy comp

kevin love?

He's not the shooter nor rebounder that Love is. Reminds me of a worse rebounding David Lee

I'm not a big comp guy but if I had to pick one for Timme it would be Tyler Hansbrourgh

identical size with the exception of Timme having a 7'2 WS compared to Hansbrough's 6'11

Very similar per 36 stats (worth noting Hanbrough was 1.5yr older then Timme for his last college season). Hansbrough has a better FT shooter and projected as a better shooter going into the NBA but Timme is a superior passer.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=drew-timme--tyler-hansbrough

Hansbrough was a lottery pick who averaged 9pts 5rb per game in 20mpg for his first 4 season and was out of the league after 6 seasons at age 30.

Psycho T always seemed more athletic than what I’ve seen of Timme, but Timme has a bit more finesse.

That would be a very good career outcome from a second rounder though.

[gouki88]

I spent a couple weeks in California last year and got to see a couple Santa Clara games and met Jalen Williams. Dude was really good and looooooonnnnnnggggg.

Saw his measurements come in at 6'5.75" 7'2" wingspan and 8'9" standing reach. For a guard.

Watch him. Probably going to go high 2nd round. He'll be a NBA player.

BTW ..he's a quality human being too.

How confusing - Jalen Williams and Jaylin Williams. Both of whom I’d like

[liam]

I spent a couple weeks in California last year and got to see a couple Santa Clara games and met Jalen Williams. Dude was really good and looooooonnnnnnggggg.

Saw his measurements come in at 6'5.75" 7'2" wingspan and 8'9" standing reach. For a guard.

Watch him. Probably going to go high 2nd round. He'll be a NBA player.

BTW ..he's a quality human being too.

How confusing - Jalen Williams and Jaylin Williams. Both of whom I’d like

Yeah, they both look good.

[nickagneta]

I spent a couple weeks in California last year and got to see a couple Santa Clara games and met Jalen Williams. Dude was really good and looooooonnnnnnggggg.

Saw his measurements come in at 6'5.75" 7'2" wingspan and 8'9" standing reach. For a guard.

Watch him. Probably going to go high 2nd round. He'll be a NBA player.

BTW ..he's a quality human being too.

How confusing - Jalen Williams and Jaylin Williams. Both of whom I’d like

Yeah, they both look good.

Jalen looking good in the scrimmage game at the combine right now

[gouki88]

I spent a couple weeks in California last year and got to see a couple Santa Clara games and met Jalen Williams. Dude was really good and looooooonnnnnnggggg.

Saw his measurements come in at 6'5.75" 7'2" wingspan and 8'9" standing reach. For a guard.

Watch him. Probably going to go high 2nd round. He'll be a NBA player.

BTW ..he's a quality human being too.

How confusing - Jalen Williams and Jaylin Williams. Both of whom I’d like

Yeah, they both look good.

Jalen looking good in the scrimmage game at the combine right now

I think we should buy another 2nd round pick and draft both of them. See how many different J's we can have

[liam]

I spent a couple weeks in California last year and got to see a couple Santa Clara games and met Jalen Williams. Dude was really good and looooooonnnnnnggggg.

Saw his measurements come in at 6'5.75" 7'2" wingspan and 8'9" standing reach. For a guard.

Watch him. Probably going to go high 2nd round. He'll be a NBA player.

BTW ..he's a quality human being too.

How confusing - Jalen Williams and Jaylin Williams. Both of whom I’d like

Yeah, they both look good.

Jalen looking good in the scrimmage game at the combine right now

I think we should buy another 2nd round pick and draft both of them. See how many different J's we can have

If there's a guy who the Celtics really want in the 2nd round they should definitely buy a pick to move up and get him.