Toronto/Cleveland trade

[Smitty77]

Would Cleveland consider this?

Mo Williams/ Varejao/ and Telfair for Calderon and Turk??

It works on realgm.com.

I imagine that Toronto would have throw in a first rounder to make it fair.  Toronto might have to throw in a re-signed Amir Johnson for the Cavs to take on Hedo's contract.

I think that Hedo would take a lot of pressure off of LJ having to always take the last shot.

All of this is assuming that the Cavs re-sign LeBron.

Smitty77

[Smitty77]

OK, I tweaked this and made it more even by making the Raptors take Daniel Gibson and his overbloated contract ($13.2 million owed over the next 3 years!) off of the the Cavs' hands.

It works:  http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/


Thoughts?

Smitty77

[action781]

I don't see why Cleveland does it.  Take a very over paid and old Hedo Turkoglu to go with an old and overpaid Jamison and Shaq?  While getting rid of one of their few energetic impact players in Varejao?  I think they need to go younger and more impact.  Also, Hedo and LBJ play the same position.  Not that big of a deal since LBJ can essentially guard anyone, but if I'm cleveland, I'd rather have my #2 be a different position to give the team more versatility.

[Rondo_is_better]

I don't see why Cleveland does it.  Take a very over paid and old Hedo Turkoglu to go with an old and overpaid Jamison and Shaq?  While getting rid of one of their few energetic impact players in Varejao?  I think they need to go younger and more impact.  Also, Hedo and LBJ play the same position.  Not that big of a deal since LBJ can essentially guard anyone, but if I'm cleveland, I'd rather have my #2 be a different position to give the team more versatility.

Like Shaq?

[action781]

I don't see why Cleveland does it.  Take a very over paid and old Hedo Turkoglu to go with an old and overpaid Jamison and Shaq?  While getting rid of one of their few energetic impact players in Varejao?  I think they need to go younger and more impact.  Also, Hedo and LBJ play the same position.  Not that big of a deal since LBJ can essentially guard anyone, but if I'm cleveland, I'd rather have my #2 be a different position to give the team more versatility.

Like Shaq?

You call Shaq a good #2 option?  He was this year and look what happened.  He averaged 12/6.7 this reg. season and 11.5/5.5 in the playoffs.  I don't see him getting better with age next year either.

[FallGuy]

OK, I tweaked this and made it more even by making the Raptors take Daniel Gibson and his overbloated contract ($13.2 million owed over the next 3 years!) off of the the Cavs' hands.

It works:  http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/


Thoughts?

Smitty77

Toronto would make this trade immediately.

Hedo and Calderon are both awful, disinterested defenders who don't play hard game-to-game.

[Who]

Turkoglu needs to touch the ball a lot and be allowed to be a playmaker off the pick and roll to be highly effective player. He can't get those type of opportunities playing alongside a player like LeBron James.

Turkoglu would be a role player like his days in San Antonio. Only earning $10 million a year to do it.

[Moranis]

A more likely trade would be Bosh, Hedo, and Calderon for Williams, Jamison, Hickson, Powe, West, Gibson (or Telfair depending on all salaries), and a first (or two).

Cavs would then be a clear favorite with a rotation of Calderon, Parker, James, Bosh, Shaq, Hedo, Varejao, Z, and Moon plus whatever free agent they signed with the MLE.

Toronto would get rid of unhappy players, save long term cash, get a very nice prospect in Hickson (perhaps two if Powe can come back from his injury), a draft pick (or two), plus a solid player like West, not to mention some name value in Jamison and Williams.

Obviously not the best trade in the world for Toronto, but it does accomplish some goals they would have this off season.  Plus I'm sure if it came down to it and Toronto really wanted Varejao he could be swapped in for Jamison or Williams.

[BballTim]

  You should put "idea" or "proposal" in your thread title.

[Moranis]

  You should put "idea" or "proposal" in your thread title.

well it is in the Trade Ideas and Rumors forum.