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Re: Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22
« Reply #120 on: November 25, 2022, 09:52:36 PM »

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The thing about timeouts is: sure, sometimes they work. And other times they don’t, or you don’t need one. Case in point: the Cs went down six and since they’ve gone on an 11-0 run. Mike Brown tried to stop the run with a timeout. Nope. Twice it failed now.

Re: Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22
« Reply #121 on: November 25, 2022, 09:53:09 PM »

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Where's Kornet? 

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Re: Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22
« Reply #122 on: November 25, 2022, 09:54:14 PM »

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Re: Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22
« Reply #123 on: November 25, 2022, 09:54:17 PM »

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What an incredible run, sparked by PP and Kornet.  Good job on Mazz trying something new.  We were stuck in mud for a while

Re: Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22
« Reply #124 on: November 25, 2022, 09:54:30 PM »

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Re: Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22
« Reply #125 on: November 25, 2022, 09:54:39 PM »

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Need the timeout, Joe. Clearly out of sorts on both ends.
Anyone who says a timeout wouldn’t help stop a run is ridiculous. It’s a reset. Good coaches get through to their team.

I wouldn't be saying that around here. There are a few basketball dullards on this board who will jump your case for criticizing Joe's idiotic timeout philosophy. Where were you guys the other nite when I had to argue 4 against 1 ????
Mazzula, the most inexperienced coach in the league, thinks he has found a new formula for developing his team's resilience.
I said this the other night: Mazzulla is the Cs equivalent of Steve Nash. He’s a warm body that fills the position of coach. He’s along for the ride as the players do their thing. I don’t think the players really respect him the way they did Udoka. I hope the Cs are healthy because I think their talent will carry them but I don’t expect much from Mazzulla in terms of adjustments during the playoffs. If Mazzulla just “let’s them play through it” in the playoffs, that kind of momentum shift loses you games.

You don’t think the Celtics players respect Mazz like they did Udoka. Based on what exactly? Kinda strange to be bashing the coach and his philosophy when the C’s have the best record in the NBA.

Whether it's Stevens, Ime, or Mazz, posters are going to rag on coaches no matter what. I've just learned that armchair coaches always think they know best even though they've probably never even played a game at the YMCA.

Ime was not coaching well during the first half of last season, so I could understand people complaining about it. This I don’t get. Apparently having the best record in the league isn’t good enough. lol.
His team having the best record doesn’t make him a good coach. Personally I haven’t seen anything from Mazzulla that says “Wow, great adjustment etc”. I think him not calling timeouts doesn’t really do anything for the team.

So by that token if the teams record deteriorates is Mazz spared the blame?
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Re: Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22
« Reply #126 on: November 25, 2022, 09:55:18 PM »

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Need the timeout, Joe. Clearly out of sorts on both ends.
Anyone who says a timeout wouldn’t help stop a run is ridiculous. It’s a reset. Good coaches get through to their team.

I wouldn't be saying that around here. There are a few basketball dullards on this board who will jump your case for criticizing Joe's idiotic timeout philosophy. Where were you guys the other nite when I had to argue 4 against 1 ????
Mazzula, the most inexperienced coach in the league, thinks he has found a new formula for developing his team's resilience.
I said this the other night: Mazzulla is the Cs equivalent of Steve Nash. He’s a warm body that fills the position of coach. He’s along for the ride as the players do their thing. I don’t think the players really respect him the way they did Udoka. I hope the Cs are healthy because I think their talent will carry them but I don’t expect much from Mazzulla in terms of adjustments during the playoffs. If Mazzulla just “let’s them play through it” in the playoffs, that kind of momentum shift loses you games.

You don’t think the Celtics players respect Mazz like they did Udoka. Based on what exactly? Kinda strange to be bashing the coach and his philosophy when the C’s have the best record in the NBA.

Whether it's Stevens, Ime, or Mazz, posters are going to rag on coaches no matter what. I've just learned that armchair coaches always think they know best even though they've probably never even played a game at the YMCA.

Ime was not coaching well during the first half of last season, so I could understand people complaining about it. This I don’t get. Apparently having the best record in the league isn’t good enough. lol.
His team having the best record doesn’t make him a good coach. Personally I haven’t seen anything from Mazzulla that says “Wow, great adjustment etc”. I think him not calling timeouts doesn’t really do anything for the team.

So by that token if the teams record deteriorates is Mazz spared the blame?

TP because I guarantee that would not be the case.
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Re: Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22
« Reply #127 on: November 25, 2022, 09:56:21 PM »

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Need the timeout, Joe. Clearly out of sorts on both ends.
Anyone who says a timeout wouldn’t help stop a run is ridiculous. It’s a reset. Good coaches get through to their team.

I wouldn't be saying that around here. There are a few basketball dullards on this board who will jump your case for criticizing Joe's idiotic timeout philosophy. Where were you guys the other nite when I had to argue 4 against 1 ????
Mazzula, the most inexperienced coach in the league, thinks he has found a new formula for developing his team's resilience.
I said this the other night: Mazzulla is the Cs equivalent of Steve Nash. He’s a warm body that fills the position of coach. He’s along for the ride as the players do their thing. I don’t think the players really respect him the way they did Udoka. I hope the Cs are healthy because I think their talent will carry them but I don’t expect much from Mazzulla in terms of adjustments during the playoffs. If Mazzulla just “let’s them play through it” in the playoffs, that kind of momentum shift loses you games.

You don’t think the Celtics players respect Mazz like they did Udoka. Based on what exactly? Kinda strange to be bashing the coach and his philosophy when the C’s have the best record in the NBA.

Whether it's Stevens, Ime, or Mazz, posters are going to rag on coaches no matter what. I've just learned that armchair coaches always think they know best even though they've probably never even played a game at the YMCA.

Ime was not coaching well during the first half of last season, so I could understand people complaining about it. This I don’t get. Apparently having the best record in the league isn’t good enough. lol.
His team having the best record doesn’t make him a good coach. Personally I haven’t seen anything from Mazzulla that says “Wow, great adjustment etc”. I think him not calling timeouts doesn’t really do anything for the team.

So winning games doesn’t make him a good coach… ???
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Re: Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22
« Reply #128 on: November 25, 2022, 09:56:37 PM »

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Need the timeout, Joe. Clearly out of sorts on both ends.
Anyone who says a timeout wouldn’t help stop a run is ridiculous. It’s a reset. Good coaches get through to their team.

I wouldn't be saying that around here. There are a few basketball dullards on this board who will jump your case for criticizing Joe's idiotic timeout philosophy. Where were you guys the other nite when I had to argue 4 against 1 ????
Mazzula, the most inexperienced coach in the league, thinks he has found a new formula for developing his team's resilience.
I said this the other night: Mazzulla is the Cs equivalent of Steve Nash. He’s a warm body that fills the position of coach. He’s along for the ride as the players do their thing. I don’t think the players really respect him the way they did Udoka. I hope the Cs are healthy because I think their talent will carry them but I don’t expect much from Mazzulla in terms of adjustments during the playoffs. If Mazzulla just “let’s them play through it” in the playoffs, that kind of momentum shift loses you games.

You don’t think the Celtics players respect Mazz like they did Udoka. Based on what exactly? Kinda strange to be bashing the coach and his philosophy when the C’s have the best record in the NBA.

Whether it's Stevens, Ime, or Mazz, posters are going to rag on coaches no matter what. I've just learned that armchair coaches always think they know best even though they've probably never even played a game at the YMCA.

Ime was not coaching well during the first half of last season, so I could understand people complaining about it. This I don’t get. Apparently having the best record in the league isn’t good enough. lol.
His team having the best record doesn’t make him a good coach. Personally I haven’t seen anything from Mazzulla that says “Wow, great adjustment etc”. I think him not calling timeouts doesn’t really do anything for the team.

I think the claim is: you are picking on the timeouts, which is a really *tiny* part of coaching. Do you know what sets he put in for the year? What part he played in the team’s dramatically different offense - much improved even from the second half of last year? I see an *lot* more off-ball action and cuts, which I expect he out in. The players also didn’t get distracted by the Ime situation - which I’m sure isn’t all him, but if the players didn’t respect him, don’t you think they’d resent him - and the team could have spiraled? I don’t see any of that. You  are saying he gets no credit, but how do you know that?

Re: Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22
« Reply #129 on: November 25, 2022, 09:57:13 PM »

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That was a nice move by Joe. PP and Luke !

Re: Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22
« Reply #130 on: November 25, 2022, 09:57:18 PM »

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Re: Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22
« Reply #131 on: November 25, 2022, 09:57:25 PM »

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Re: Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22
« Reply #132 on: November 25, 2022, 09:58:44 PM »

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One reason we are concerned about the possibility of a lack of respect by the players for Mazzulla is the lazy defense on display much too often this season. Based on last season, these guys know the defensive system and how to execute it as a team. The other ingredient to great defense is effort and we are not seeing as much of it this season. And RobW being out is not a factor in the lack of effort we see.  So ..... that leads to speculation that Mazzulla is either not demanding enough or his demands are not being responded to by the players. All speculation at this point because we are not inside the team or at practice, but it is a fair concern.

Mazzulla's hording of timeouts is just maddening.
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Re: Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22
« Reply #133 on: November 25, 2022, 10:00:00 PM »

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We must be really concerned about Brogdon's minutes as much as we're managing them.

That said, both Smart and White have been playing so well this year that it's one of those things that you're not losing much by having any of them sit out. It's really a three headed monster at this point.

Re: Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22
« Reply #134 on: November 25, 2022, 10:01:07 PM »

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