Media speculation about the Celtics wanting Poeltl

[liam]

If the Spurs wanted to check out a couple of our young players this works:

Grant, Pritchard, and Vonleh for Poeltl works in the trade machine.

[Roy H.]

If the Spurs wanted to check out a couple of our young players this works:

Grant, Pritchard, and Vonleh for Poeltl works in the trade machine.

Why for us?

[nickagneta]

If the Spurs wanted to check out a couple of our young players this works:

Grant, Pritchard, and Vonleh for Poeltl works in the trade machine.

Why for us?

Yeah, I don't get this proposal either. Grant and Pritchard might help SA win games. They won't want that.

And why? To save a pick that might end up in the 29-30 area? Send them out trash and a pick at the deadline. Gallo, Kornet and a #1 should get it done, even if you divert Gallo elsewhere.

[gouki88]

If the Spurs wanted to check out a couple of our young players this works:

Grant, Pritchard, and Vonleh for Poeltl works in the trade machine.

I don't think either team would want this.

[bogg]

Yeah, I'd be hesitant to give up another 1st. Not because I don't want to improve the team, but because it would have to our 2024 pick, and it would really limit us on actually upgrading our roster in the future. Poetl is decent, but not all-in good.

Can't trade the 24 pick until after the draft because they traded the 23 pick already. It'd have to be the 25 pick for Poeltl, and that leaves you with 2027 as the next available first if Poeltl winds up a rental.

[liam]

If the Spurs wanted to check out a couple of our young players this works:

Grant, Pritchard, and Vonleh for Poeltl works in the trade machine.

Why for us?

Yeah, I don't get this proposal either. Grant and Pritchard might help SA win games. They won't want that.

And why? To save a pick that might end up in the 29-30 area? Send them out trash and a pick at the deadline. Gallo, Kornet and a #1 should get it done, even if you divert Gallo elsewhere.

If you really want Poeltl... This trade works in trade machine.  I'd rather stand pat with the team we have.

[liam]

If the Spurs wanted to check out a couple of our young players this works:

Grant, Pritchard, and Vonleh for Poeltl works in the trade machine.

I don't think either team would want this.

I didn't say either team would want it just that it would work in trade machine.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Pritchard + Kornet + Vonleh + Jackson + #1

We could also take back minimum salary players from San Antonio in the deal, like Gorgui Deng.

That deal pushes us over the top, particularly if we get a buyout guard afterward. We need that big depth because we’ve got Smart, Brogdon and White who can all play the 1/2, and obviously JB starts at the two. Plus, I don’t wanna do Gallo wrong by moving him to a third team to bring in Poetl, but maybe not a bad idea if we can retain Pritchard.

The 2025 1st is worth trading if the return is Banner 18, even if Poetl walks. So sick of people overrating late first-rounders. Had we dealt Kyrie and a 1st for Kawhi, we would already have Banner 18 instead of Toronto with a title.

[bogg]

The 2025 1st is worth trading if the return is Banner 18, even if Poetl walks. So sick of people overrating late first-rounders. Had we dealt Kyrie and a 1st for Kawhi, we would already have Banner 18 instead of Toronto with a title.

It's not so much about overvaluing late first rounders as it is leaving yourself with no first round picks to trade until 2027, and Poeltl isn't the type of player who guarantees you a championship.

One of the things that makes Boston interesting is that this summer they can make what's basically a full-boat offer of draft picks if a fringe star on a rebuilding team comes available while most of the other contenders owe picks out into the future. Stevens has done an excellent job of adding Horford, White, and Brogdon all for "this years' first" for three drafts in a row, all while keeping the future relatively clean. Unless you genuinely believe that Poeltl guarantees a title, it'd be hard for me to take Boston out of the conversation for much better players when you can likely get a workable center for Pritchard and seconds.

Also, for what it's worth, I recall the Kawhi package being Jaylen, Smart, and a first or two. Given that all the locker room problems would have still been there and that Kawhi isn't exactly a take-over-the-locker-room type, I don't lose any sleep over passing on that deal. Likeliest scenario there is that Philly or Milwaukee win the title that season and Boston's in a much worse spot going forward.

[SparzWizard]

Pritchard + Kornet + Vonleh + Jackson + #1

We could also take back minimum salary players from San Antonio in the deal, like Gorgui Deng.

That deal pushes us over the top, particularly if we get a buyout guard afterward. We need that big depth because we’ve got Smart, Brogdon and White who can all play the 1/2, and obviously JB starts at the two. Plus, I don’t wanna do Gallo wrong by moving him to a third team to bring in Poetl, but maybe not a bad idea if we can retain Pritchard.

The 2025 1st is worth trading if the return is Banner 18, even if Poetl walks. So sick of people overrating late first-rounders. Had we dealt Kyrie and a 1st for Kawhi, we would already have Banner 18 instead of Toronto with a title.

I don't think Kawhi Raptors win a title if KD and Klay werent injured in the Finals

[Roy H.]

Pritchard + Kornet + Vonleh + Jackson + #1

We could also take back minimum salary players from San Antonio in the deal, like Gorgui Deng.

That deal pushes us over the top, particularly if we get a buyout guard afterward. We need that big depth because we’ve got Smart, Brogdon and White who can all play the 1/2, and obviously JB starts at the two. Plus, I don’t wanna do Gallo wrong by moving him to a third team to bring in Poetl, but maybe not a bad idea if we can retain Pritchard.

The 2025 1st is worth trading if the return is Banner 18, even if Poetl walks. So sick of people overrating late first-rounders. Had we dealt Kyrie and a 1st for Kawhi, we would already have Banner 18 instead of Toronto with a title.

I don't think Kawhi Raptors win a title if KD and Klay werent injured in the Finals

That entire roster seemed to get injured in 2019.  Curry, Iggy, Boogie, Looney.

[footey]

I have no interest in Poeltl given cost of another first round pick. Frankly Pritchard and Kornet have more value to this team than Poeltl. Once Rob comes back Poeltl would be back up and leave in FA.

[action781]

I like our team as is.  This trade is entirely based on injury insurance for Rob.  If we're this concerned about Rob not being healthy in the postseason, and that confident that Poeltl would be a good enough fit on our team in Rob's absence to help us contend for a title, then I think we should probably just try to move Rob in the deal instead of Pritchard + picks.  I'd rather just keep the guys we have though.

Making a trade when you have the best record in the league despite not having your starting center just doesn't seem smart to me.

[Hoopvortex]

Pritchard + Kornet + Vonleh + Jackson + #1

We could also take back minimum salary players from San Antonio in the deal, like Gorgui Deng.

That deal pushes us over the top, particularly if we get a buyout guard afterward. We need that big depth because we’ve got Smart, Brogdon and White who can all play the 1/2, and obviously JB starts at the two. Plus, I don’t wanna do Gallo wrong by moving him to a third team to bring in Poetl, but maybe not a bad idea if we can retain Pritchard.

The 2025 1st is worth trading if the return is Banner 18, even if Poetl walks. So sick of people overrating late first-rounders. Had we dealt Kyrie and a 1st for Kawhi, we would already have Banner 18 instead of Toronto with a title.

I don't think Kawhi Raptors win a title if KD and Klay werent injured in the Finals

Maybe. But as the old NBA saying goes, "That's why they play the games." You don't play on paper (or in fan forums, just sayin), you play on the court.

Durant's injury history (a long list, not just the catastrophic Achilles' tendon tear) surely played a big part in what was offered in the trade proposals for him over the summer - presumably including any that the Celtics might have made.

[knuckleballer]

If we traded for Poeltl, would we have his Bird rights?

I don’t think playing time would be much of an issue.  The Celtics will need to manage Williams playing time when he’s back playing.  If you limit him to 25 minutes per game and sit him on back to backs, there will be plenty of time for Poeltl.

Pritchard was only playing in garbage time before Brogdon was hurt.  If we were in the playoffs, I don’t think Pritchard would be playing much at all.