Really early, but for fun I've already made my All Star selections.
WEST
Luka Doncic (Dallas Mavericks), Stephen Curry (Golden State Warriors), Nikola Jokic (Denver Nuggets), Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (Oklahoma City Thunder), Ja Morant (Memphis Grizzlies), Devin Booker (Phoenix Suns), De'Aaron Fox (Sacramento Kings), Anthony Davis (Los Angeles Lakers), Paul George (Los Angeles Clippers), Desmond Bane (Memphis Grizzlies), Domantas Sabonis (Sacramento Kings), Lauri Markkanen (Utah Jazz)
EAST
Jayson Tatum (Boston Celtics), Joel Embiid (Philadelphia 76ers), Donovan Mitchell (Cleveland Cavaliers), Giannis Antetokounmpo (Milwaukee Bucks), Kevin Durant (Brooklyn Nets), Pascal Siakam (Toronto Raptors), Tyrese Haliburton (Indiana Pacers), James Harden (Philadelphia 76ers), Kristaps Porzingis (Washington Wizards), Jimmy Butler (Miami Heat), Brook Lopez (Milwaukee Bucks), Dejounte Murray (Atlanta Hawks)
You’re missing a guy who’s putting up 25/7 for the team with the best record in the league.
Yeah noway a top 3 team in the conference just get a single all-star when 2nd player is playing that well and healthy. I dont think anyone will put Harden and Lopez in over Brown.
I just did.
You did, and it's a major fail.
Yeah, Jaylen is deserving over about a half dozen guys in the East listed there. Heck, JB gets an All-NBA nod this year if he continues this play and the C's end up as the league's best team.
Tatum, Embiid, Mitchell, Antetokounmpo and Durant are currently above any discussion. But let's look at a bunch of stats that look past the raw numbers:
Post in progress....
The advanced stats have never loved Jaylen or shown the importance of his impact on winning for this team. So bring up all the noisy stats like box +/-, on/off +/-, VORP, etc., etc. They mean little to the people that will be putting Jaylen on the All-Star and All-NBA teams this year.
Nick is someone that has brook lopez making the all star team and brown not worth engaging with?
Well I'd say so. Advanced stats is so noisy that it would like to tell you that we will be getting more wins if we play Luke Kornet instead of Jaylen Brown over the course of the game 
Yeah, Value Over Replacement Player stats say you could replace Jaylen with just any guy and get the same results. +/- stats say you're better off as a team not playing Brown than playing him. The noise and ridiculousness of some of the advanced stats just do not match up to what is actually happening on the court in so many ways. According to some stats, Hauser is the Celtics first or second best player. Does that match the eye test?
Worth pointing out here that different stats 'mature' at different rates - also known as the coefficient of determination. You can judge pace, for example, after five or six games, while you need about 28 games to start looking at three point percentages for the season.
That's not to say these can't be wrong (the average sports fan loves a misinterpreted statistic, so the average sports publication does too) but looking at VORP right now and saying "bin all the advance stats they're useless" is probably not the takeaway you want here.
Good intro on VORP for people who would like to learn more:
https://hackastat.eu/en/learn-a-stat-box-plus-minus-and-vorp/
This discussion wasn't about the use of advanced stats to determine the overall efficacy and value and quality of a player. It was about the use of them in determining how voters of All-Star and All-NBA teams will make their selections and I contend, yeah, you can chuck them all in the trash for those people making those votes.
Jaylen won't make All-Star starter, but 99.999% of fans won't use them to cast votes. NO players will and maybe a few media people will. Maybe.
With the All-Star reserves, the head coaches aren't going to delve into the advanced metrics of the very top players to cast their vote on who gets on the team. And the sportswriters and broadcasters who vote for All-NBA won't either. Yeah, there might be an advanced stats geek sportswriter or three who might use them to separate players in their voting, but the vast, vast majority won't.
Also, I have a math degree and have spent a ton of time delving into the advanced stats of basketball. Their math is good. Their premises to create the math is where I have issues. Some are great. Others, complete garbage as they are highly dependent on the other players on the court with a player and that's highly variable and I've never seen a formula that adequately and consistently synthesizes what's happening on the court for players across the league.
A player on horrible team X with group of players Y does not equal a player on a great team A who shares the court with group of players B. No amount of smoothing, controlling or regression models properly takes into account the astonishing amount of variables that should go into such stats.
I've seen some player rankings based on RAPM, EPM, Raptor, etc that have no bearing on reality with players in the top 20-25 players that have no business being considered in that area.
So, I say, the lesson to be learned is take the very advanced stats with a grain of salt when utilizing them in a discussion of how good a player actually is. Use the less advanced ones(not box score but TS%, Reb%, Ast%, rFTA, r3PTA, etc) as an aggregate to judge skills and quality of play and bring that together with the eye test. Then make your determinations.
