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FA Target - Joe Harris
« on: May 28, 2018, 03:46:40 PM »

Offline Eddie20

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Not a sexy name by any means, but the guy can flat-out shoot. I think a weakness we're going to have off the bench, assuming we keep our remaining contributors, is perimeter shooting/spacing. Harris shot 41.9% from 3's (49.1% overall - 10.8 PPG) and also shot 47.3% on wide open 3's. The last number is huge, especially with the amount of wide open shots a player like Harris would get in our system and playing off of Irving, Hayward, Horford, and Tatum (maybe even Brown depending on his off-season improvement).

Here's what some of our guys, who received rotational minutes, shot from distance during the season and then in the playoffs:

Smart               36.7   22.1

Rozier               38.1   34.7

Morris               36.8   41.7

Ojeleye              32  27.3


Again, Harris isn't a star, but the key is identifying a good system piece that would flourish playing a specific role. Harris is still only 26 (turning 27 by the start of the year), so his best days are still ahead of him, can shoot, moves extremely well without the ball, is a willing passer, and although not a good defender, he's a smart player overall and I think he could be a decent team defender.

A lot of things to like. Now imagine him playing with our starters. The spacing alone he would provide would be extremely beneficial.

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Re: FA Target - Joe Harris
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2018, 03:58:58 PM »

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You've got my attention

Re: FA Target - Joe Harris
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2018, 04:20:47 PM »

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You got my attention too. Good call.

Re: FA Target - Joe Harris
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2018, 04:26:16 PM »

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While I like the idea of going after a player in the mold of Joe Harris, who I actually, well, like, btw, I'd rather have Peter Jok.

Re: FA Target - Joe Harris
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2018, 04:35:24 PM »

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Good call indeed!

He had some good games against us, every time someone leaves him open it feels like its going in. I do remember he had 1 game against us where he missed everything.

However if you leave him open, it still feels to me like you leave Korver open.
He is an underrated shooter en plays pretty hard too if I remember correctly.

Re: FA Target - Joe Harris
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2018, 04:47:44 PM »

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Interesting idea, but we’re capped out. Won’t we need to use the exception to resign Baynes or his replacement? Need a big body to save Al and bang with Embiid.

Re: FA Target - Joe Harris
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2018, 04:52:54 PM »

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Unfortunately we have no cap space, so we are not permitted to sign any free agents. 

Go back and concoct a way to trade for good shooting Joe Harris.

Re: FA Target - Joe Harris
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2018, 04:53:20 PM »

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Good call indeed!

He had some good games against us, every time someone leaves him open it feels like its going in. I do remember he had 1 game against us where he missed everything.

However if you leave him open, it still feels to me like you leave Korver open.
He is an underrated shooter en plays pretty hard too if I remember correctly.


Yeah, he's a hard-nosed blue collar type player.

I found this, which is pretty telling on the type of shooter he is (even while surrounded by marginally talented group).
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His goal at the beginning of the season was to join the NBA’s elite shooters ... and he did, finishing 17th in 3-point shooting ... and first in the 44 games since January 1, a 46.7 percent clip.

Re: FA Target - Joe Harris
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2018, 04:56:41 PM »

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Unfortunately we have no cap space, so we are not permitted to sign any free agents. 

Go back and concoct a way to trade for good shooting Joe Harris.

Ever heard of the MLE?

Re: FA Target - Joe Harris
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2018, 04:57:16 AM »

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I finally agree with Eddie-Have had my eye on Joe Harris for some time now.
So a TP to you Eddie

Re: FA Target - Joe Harris
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2018, 05:05:12 AM »

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Good call. Nobody really paid any attention to him (or his teammates for that matter) this year, but he’s solid
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Re: FA Target - Joe Harris
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2018, 05:40:00 AM »

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Unfortunately we have no cap space, so we are not permitted to sign any free agents. 

Go back and concoct a way to trade for good shooting Joe Harris.

Ever heard of the MLE?

So who goes so we can use the MLE and stay under the luxury tax line?

Re: FA Target - Joe Harris
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2018, 06:41:53 AM »

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Unfortunately we have no cap space, so we are not permitted to sign any free agents. 

Go back and concoct a way to trade for good shooting Joe Harris.

Ever heard of the MLE?

So who goes so we can use the MLE and stay under the luxury tax line?

I think Baynes would have to accept a minimum raise, and some non guaranteed money would have to be waived.

But it can be done
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Re: FA Target - Joe Harris
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2018, 07:43:44 AM »

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82nd out of 90 SF's in defensive RPM.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/3/sort/DRPM/position/5

I know we are getting him for his offense, but ....

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Re: FA Target - Joe Harris
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2018, 08:01:06 AM »

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Unfortunately we have no cap space, so we are not permitted to sign any free agents. 

Go back and concoct a way to trade for good shooting Joe Harris.

This is not true. There are plenty of exceptions that we can use this summer the sign players. There's the MLE (tax-payers, which is ~$5 million, or regular, which is ~$8.5 million but hard caps us at the tax apron), the Bi-annual exception (which would also hard cap us), non-Bird/early-Bird/Bird rights (which allow re-signing a player despite being over the cap), first round pick exceptions (which allow signing any player you took with a first rounder and still own the draft rights to), and minimum salary exceptions, which allow you to sign a player for two years at their minimum (it can be any minimum from rookie to 10+ year vet).

Being above the cap limits our options, but it does not prevent us from signing players. Even being over the tax line still allows us to re-sign players, sign minimum salary players, sign our draft picks (including draft-and-stashes), and use the tax-payer's mini MLE
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