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After this season if it came down to it, would you choose to keep CBS or Irving?

Brad Stevens
22 (84.6%)
Kyrie Irving
4 (15.4%)

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Offline RPGenerate

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lol I dont even have to look at names anymore to kinda know who is posting in support of Kyrie.
Kinda like I already know who it is when a new "Bash Kyrie" thread comes out. Let's not play this game and just commend everyone for stay consistent.
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lol I dont even have to look at names anymore to kinda know who is posting in support of Kyrie.
Kinda like I already know who it is when a new "Bash Kyrie" thread comes out. Let's not play this game and just commend everyone for stay consistent.

I also like how people have differing opinions otherwise this would just be one huge echo chamber. Though since people are so set in their opinions it is kind of like an echo chamber, only with 2 echoes  :angel:
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I didn't have to think for a second.  Give me TR and Stevens over KI any day of the week!
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I didn't have to think for a second.  Give me TR and Stevens over KI any day of the week!
I think I'd rather lose Kyrie if it meant Rozier never ever donned the Celtic uniform ever again than have both
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In a vacuum, keep Kyrie. There are more good coaches than there are available stars who can do what Kyrie can do. Plus, Kyrie can help attract other stars, such as Davis.

Outside that vacuum, it depends on the circumstances. If Kyrie is pulling a Lebron and goes full coach-killer, I don’t think we can keep him.


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With so much complaining about Stevens lately, I'm a bit surprised at the poll results. But I often am. Like how people would rather trade Jaylen than Smart in an AD deal or that like 90 something percent of people would still have signed Hayward to a max contract if they knew what was going to happen.

Anyway, I also think people are stuck on the idea that if we keep Kyrie, then we are forced to keep him forever. Frankly, I am not the biggest Kyrie fan in the world. I mean, he is really good and I am glad he is on our team, but if things didn't work out over the next year or two, I wouldn't hesitate to trade him for another superstar or young player who is slotted to be one.

I certainly don't want to lose Stevens either, but I just worry about losing our best player and best asset for nothing.


This argument is the best one for keeping Kyrie even if contention isn't especially likely (ie without an AD trade).


I guess what it comes down to for me is, all else being equal, I much prefer the Brad Stevens experience to the Kyrie Irving experience.
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Let Kyrie sign wherever he wants. Then hope that blazers and Washington are finally gonna do full rebuild and trade for Lillard and Beal 😃

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This team is joyless. They look like it and I know I feel it. They are just so hard to cheer for. I can handle being sorry when you have no talent but this year feels like a total waste.

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You never keep a player over a coach like CBS.  I love Kyrie but the perception is that a lot of the drama this year has been caused by him.  The Drama has caused a divide in the locker room.  The divide has caused chemistry issues with the team.  The lack of chemistry has created inconsistent play on the court.  This inconsistent play has caused this team not to even come close to meeting regular season expectations. 

I am not a Kyrie hater but the off season will tell what the truth is.  If Kyrie bolts or the C's don't offer him a contract we know what the deal is.  Kyrie vs CBS and the young players.  That is the perception the media has created but is it justified?  Only time will tell.  I loved the thought of having vets and young guys to develop to have a large window of contention but it seems you can't do both in this league.  Everyone wants their PT.

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You never keep a player over a coach like CBS.  I love Kyrie but the perception is that a lot of the drama this year has been caused by him.  The Drama has caused a divide in the locker room.  The divide has caused chemistry issues with the team.  The lack of chemistry has created inconsistent play on the court.  This inconsistent play has caused this team not to even come close to meeting regular season expectations. 

I am not a Kyrie hater but the off season will tell what the truth is.  If Kyrie bolts or the C's don't offer him a contract we know what the deal is.  Kyrie vs CBS and the young players.  That is the perception the media has created but is it justified?  Only time will tell.  I loved the thought of having vets and young guys to develop to have a large window of contention but it seems you can't do both in this league.  Everyone wants their PT.

Knowing business, horde mentality of Ainge

He would try to sign Irving.   Then if things dont workout after one more try

Trade him for assets

Ainge is cold blooded. He doesnt really care about this stuff

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I didn't have to think for a second.  Give me TR and Stevens over KI any day of the week!

???

I think I'd tear the hair out of my head if we went through a full season with Rozier as the starting point guard for this team

Right now with Kyrie we are 43-31 (and should be better.)

Without Kyrie and with Rozier starting at the 1, we are probably 31-43 and probably looking at the 11th seed.

I think Terry has talent but I don't think he has the smarts to be a successful starting point guard in this league.

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I didn't have to think for a second.  Give me TR and Stevens over KI any day of the week!

???

I think I'd tear the hair out of my head if we went through a full season with Rozier as the starting point guard for this team

Right now with Kyrie we are 43-31 (and should be better.)

Without Kyrie and with Rozier starting at the 1, we are probably 31-43 and probably looking at the 11th seed.

I think Terry has talent but I don't think he has the smarts to be a successful starting point guard in this league.



Agreed; I'd rather have a mediocre but stable vet like Darren Collison or DJ Augustin than Rozier.
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Agreed; I'd rather have a mediocre but stable vet like Darren Collison or DJ Augustin than Rozier.

Rozier's numbers as a starter this year are similar to Collison's. They're actually a little better than Collison's, but similar.

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Agreed; I'd rather have a mediocre but stable vet like Darren Collison or DJ Augustin than Rozier.

Rozier's numbers as a starter this year are similar to Collison's. They're actually a little better than Collison's, but similar.

But how many times have Collison or Augustine run into their own teammate while leading a fast break?

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Agreed; I'd rather have a mediocre but stable vet like Darren Collison or DJ Augustin than Rozier.

Rozier's numbers as a starter this year are similar to Collison's. They're actually a little better than Collison's, but similar.

But how many times have Collison or Augustine run into their own teammate while leading a fast break?

6. 4 times for Collison and 2 for Augustine.

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