CelticsStrong
CelticsStrong => Comments & Remarks => Topic started by: ItStaysYang on December 11, 2012, 10:41:57 PM
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Maybe it's because more stories are being published - but maybe it's because of this wretched design that took the place of what was in-place and working just fine before.
It seems like comments on regular day-to-day posts are lower than before the design changes.
I love this new bleacher report attitude SBNation has adopted, emphasizing money and advertising over quality user experience.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it
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I don't think my forum posting has been affected, but I will admit i completely skip the front page now and just go directly to the forums. I just hate the front page.
I just dislike the new layout, it's far to cluttered and generally if something really breaking gets posted on the front "magazine" page someone links to it in the forum and i discuss it here.
But if your question is "is forum participation down" I don't think so, generally it is high at the beginning of the season, ebbs in the middle, and comes back towards the end and playoffs.
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I don't think my forum posting has been affected, but I will admit i completely skip the front page now and just go directly to the forums. I just hate the front page.
Ditto. Loads WAYYY too slow due to the boatload of http requests, 2k+ DOM elements and far too many DNS requests.
From a technical point of view, it's really, really, REALLY heavy. Even when you DON'T take into account that it's a news-site, which is supposed to be fast and agile as opposed to all pretty and stuff.
Usability-wise I'm not even going to start dissing it, because it's slowness drags every other part of the experience down.
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I don't think my forum posting has been affected, but I will admit i completely skip the front page now and just go directly to the forums. I just hate the front page.
Ditto. Loads WAYYY too slow due to the boatload of http requests, 2k+ DOM elements and far too many DNS requests.
From a technical point of view, it's really, really, REALLY heavy. Even when you DON'T take into account that it's a news-site, which is supposed to be fast and agile as opposed to all pretty and stuff.
Usability-wise I'm not even going to start dissing it, because it's slowness drags every other part of the experience down.
My experience has been similar to the above. Also, the fanposts are further down now and people comment far less. Now I pretty much skip them altogether.
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One thing that is confusing in this new design
How can you check on your profile your last posts that you posted?
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One thing that is confusing in this new design
How can you check on your profile your last posts that you posted?
Click on name in a post or if its you, click on 'profile'
Mouse over (or click if on your phone) profile again on the top menu
Show messages
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I'm curious as to the answer of this question as well. I love this site. I have since the delonte draft and always will, but the new design has me just reading the forums now as well.
I know there was a lot of complaining about it when the change was just made. I didn't want to pile on then b/c I always hate when websites change, but usually I get used to it and am happy for it. Not this time. It really has decreased the amount of time I spend on the site overall. And that's not even taking in the fact that I used to use EI to browse the site during the day on my work computer, and now I can't even do that.
So Jeff and everyone else who puts this site on. I really appreciate what you do, have done, and are trying to do with this. It will always be the first Celtics site I browse to, but I think you missed the mark with this redesign.
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Even when you DON'T take into account that it's a news-site, which is supposed to be fast and agile as opposed to all pretty and stuff.
Emphasis on this.
Old Celticsblog = reading a newspaper, you skim through the front page and turn to the story that interests you most.
New Celticsblog = a magazine that wastes time because it makes you skip over all the meaningless pages.
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I just read the forums now. The home page just never grew on me. It might be like that for most ppl and that's why comments are down.
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Nope.
I like the new design, myself.
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I don't think my forum posting has been affected, but I will admit i completely skip the front page now and just go directly to the forums. I just hate the front page.
Ditto. Loads WAYYY too slow due to the boatload of http requests, 2k+ DOM elements and far too many DNS requests.
From a technical point of view, it's really, really, REALLY heavy. Even when you DON'T take into account that it's a news-site, which is supposed to be fast and agile as opposed to all pretty and stuff.
Usability-wise I'm not even going to start dissing it, because it's slowness drags every other part of the experience down.
Gotta agree ... I'm just not visiting the front page much anymore, or navigating from there, but come directly to the forums. Profile friendliness has decreased as well, IMO ... I think most of us love this site like a second home, but it feels like we've been moved to a new neighborhood, one with too many new signs and added streets.
This has always been a wonderful site, but the whole "improvement" thing just keeps coming back to "Why fix it if it ain't broke?" Sums it up for me, because it's far less user-friendly now, and I don't get why this was needed. Guess I'm just one of those people who miss the golden arches. ;)
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I have it saved in my bookmark so it goes straight to the forum. I can't stand the new page to be completely honest :(
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I don't think my forum posting has been affected, but I will admit i completely skip the front page now and just go directly to the forums. I just hate the front page.
Ditto. Loads WAYYY too slow due to the boatload of http requests, 2k+ DOM elements and far too many DNS requests.
From a technical point of view, it's really, really, REALLY heavy. Even when you DON'T take into account that it's a news-site, which is supposed to be fast and agile as opposed to all pretty and stuff.
Usability-wise I'm not even going to start dissing it, because it's slowness drags every other part of the experience down.
Triple ditto the front page is bloated and awful don't ever go to it since the redesign to be honest. The forums haven't changed though they're good.
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It's horrible.
And for those of you who aren't aware, Jeff himself didn't orchestrate or facilitate the changes. SBNation imposed them on all child sites in order to promote more advertisement displays and encourage higher click rates, and things of that nature. Hence the Bleacher Report comparison - those guys do everything for money, SBNation is simply following in their footsteps as they have quite the following now. Too many growing businesses lose site of the customer's perspective when they get a market share of anything.
The old design was far less convoluted, loaded faster, presented material more effectively (for viewers), and was just much less cluttered and busy. I'm sure tons of people skip the front page and head straight to the forums as well, but will never post about it. Either way, there's no getting the old site back, I was just curious as to whether the new design had a direct impact on the lack of user activity on front page articles.
And yes - moving the fan posts section that low was a mistake. Sad, Jeff is now posting things like "fan post Friday" to (ironically) use the new, confusing headline features to bring traffic to the fan pages.
'Tis unfortunate, to say the least
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I don't mind the site design as much as I did when it first launched. They've made significant improvements.
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Yeah there was a topic on the front page about the new design about 2 months ago (?) I'm sure none of you saw it since most of you skip the front page anyway, and I don't blame you. I hate the new front page as well. For the person who made the comparison between the old site being a newspaper and the new site being a magazine is spot on. The old site for me was soooo much better. It gave emphasis to ALL stories, not just 3 little boxes under a huge box rendering 3 stories almost useless. Fanposts are being pushed down so much you have to scroll for days to see them. I have also noticed the comments on the front page stories are down. It seems like many people have went to different sites and/or just stopped posting here. Personally, it would take alot for me to stop posting here and a change like this hasn't stopped me, although I do prefer the old site.
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Trolling CB hahaha, that's pretty yang.
I don't think anyone prefers the new design, but it's up to SBNation and therefore isn't going to change.
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I think some interest drops when we are not winning as much. You always have fair weather fans.
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I don't go to the front page ever.
Usually (hopefully) I can get to any articles I want via links on twitter
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didn't like the change when it first happened and like it even less now. Rarely bother with the main page and very, very rarely post there now.
almost exclusively visit the forums. will really only go to the main page if there's nothing new or interesting in the forums that day (which is very rare).
would be interested to see Jeff weigh in on this topic.
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would be interested to see Jeff weigh in on this topic.
at this point, what else do you really want me to say? I'm sorry?
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The front page comments don't load here or over at BC Interruption in Internet explorer 9 so I would have no way of knowing.
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I head straight to the forums only because I have been frustrated with the fact the I cant comment on the front page and SBNation. Do i need a different name and password? Not that I am going to start commenting there at this point, I much prefer the forums myself.
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I till visit the site every day for my celtics fix. Don't comment berry often anymore because of the argumentative nature of forums. Just don't have the time or patience anymore.
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I head straight to the forums only because I have been frustrated with the fact the I cant comment on the front page and SBNation. Do i need a different name and password? Not that I am going to start commenting there at this point, I much prefer the forums myself.
Yes, the forums and front page require different accounts, since they're not fully integrated. Basically, CelticsBlog's forums run essentially as a different site.
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This is coming off as piling on, so I'd like to briefly add-
- Aesthetically, I think the new design is modern and beautiful.
- 99% of people hate every change to facebook; it's mostly because they hate change
- I don't have an ipad, but it seems like the new design is very ipad friendly
- While it has changed my fanpost habits, I'm still checking the site every day
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I have also bookmarked the Forum and come directly here. I don't really like the front page and half the time it won't allow to to get to forums, so I just pass on it.
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Yeah, I'd agree. The front page is a mess, and it's difficult to navigate - although that's not exclusive to this blog. SB has destroyed the Oklahoma football site I frequent, as well. It's a negative, overall, to participation on the site, although I've been pretty busy and haven't had a lot of time to do so.
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I don't think anyone prefers the new design, but it's up to SBNation and therefore isn't going to change.
True if Jeff wants to keep CB hosted by SBNation. I'm guessing SBNation takes care of a lot of the technical issues that come with hosting a site that Jeff and staff used to have to take care of themselves. A lot less headache for them probably. So there're trade-offs; a user interface that users don't like as well, but far fewer headaches for the site owner. It's a reasonable trade-off, in my view.
I don't like the new front page as well as the old either, but have gotten accustomed to the new, so no longer have major issues with it. Besides, if I want to see the articles in a 'table of contents' format with a few lines of the content showed, I also use FeedDemon feed reader, and CB is one of a number of Celtics sites bookmarked in there, which, in a way, almost duplicates what the old CB functioned like.
At the end of day, the site is about the community that contributes, and whether or not you appreciate the many writers and commenters that provide the content and insight. That, and whether or not you like and are comfortable with the way a site is moderated, etc. I appreciate that CB doesn't use too heavy a hand in their moderation, and it has some of the best commenters around. A little homerish, sure, but that's the nature of a fansite.
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I pretty much only come to the forums, but my commenting has dropped off because I've been more focused on football (and before that politics) than on basketball. Come early winter and I'll tune more into basketball.
I hate to admit the above, but that's just the reality given that I only have so much bandwidth for entertainment (after doling out existing bandwidth to family and work)...
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I don't think my forum posting has been affected, but I will admit i completely skip the front page now and just go directly to the forums. I just hate the front page.
Ditto. Loads WAYYY too slow due to the boatload of http requests, 2k+ DOM elements and far too many DNS requests.
From a technical point of view, it's really, really, REALLY heavy. Even when you DON'T take into account that it's a news-site, which is supposed to be fast and agile as opposed to all pretty and stuff.
Usability-wise I'm not even going to start dissing it, because it's slowness drags every other part of the experience down.
Agree. Also wonder when SB will be more mobile friendly. Reading and posting from phones and tablets simply doesn't work well.
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My forum posting has gone down and I haven't written a fan post yet (although I did pretty infrequently before). I thought I'd come around to the new layout over time (similar to how I did with timeline on facebook), but I haven't yet. Maybe soon.
My feelings are the same now as it was when the changes were made: this feels more like Jeff's blog rather than a blogging community. I still come because I think Jeff is a great blogger and I enjoy the forums, but the entire feel for the site is different for me now.
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One thing that is confusing in this new design
How can you check on your profile your last posts that you posted?
Click on name in a post or if its you, click on 'profile'
Mouse over (or click if on your phone) profile again on the top menu
Show messages
Oh thank you!
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I wrote a month and a half ago about the marginalization of the Fan Posts and I agree with you 100%. But, no matter how much we bring this up they'll never change it back. I tend to skip all the main stories as well, as many of them are simply theories or imaginings. Very little "news" is actually reported. This is turning into Bleacher Report.
Here's what I wrote, which I think plays in line with your comments:
Since the site's redesign, which marginalized the Fan Posts by pushing them so far down the page, there have barely been any comments made in the Fan Post section. If you look at the past 12-15 posts, most have 0 comments, and most posts are well thought out and worthy of discussion. I always found the Fan Posts to be the second most important part of the site, next to the "breaking news" (Moderator Posts) at the top.
The Forums are fine, but the Posts really allow for more of a personal expression of one's thoughts. The comments are easier to read and everything is better organized. With the Forums, you have to go back and sometimes read pages upon pages of pasted "quotes" and silly comments just to get to the meat of the discussion, but that's not so with the Posts. With the posts, everything is laid out for you in one clean, organized page.
If possible, I think it would be an improvement to the site to move the Fan Posts farther up, perhaps replacing the "Latest News" section, which simply repeats news headlines directly adjacent to it. That section seems a bit redundant, so it can probably be killed.
Viva la Fan Posts!
Thanks for your time.
p.s. I do understand the irony that I used a Forum to bring up this topic of discussion. I assumed a Post would be largely ignored.
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the de-emphasis on FanPosts is an issue that they are looking at very closely and will probably result in fixes
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Agree. Also wonder when SB will be more mobile friendly. Reading and posting from phones and tablets simply doesn't work well.
I don't mind the mobile site on my iPhone, at least as far as reading is concerned. It has a similar feel to the old style. The load is not nearly as heavy as the main page in a browser. I'm not sure how it is for comments, though; I never comment front page.
I've tried to like the new format, but it's not happening for me. I split the difference and just visit less often. I miss the funny captions on pictures.
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I pretty much only visit the forums. I never read the daily links any more, which is a bummer but they are just cumbersome and without preview titles there is nothing to grab my attention.
I might read one-third as many blog posts as before. Again, with no preview I get intrigued a lot less often.
So, I'm left with the forums, but even there I need to scroll halfway down the front page to reach them.
It's a bummer.
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No one ever likes changes to UI on sites they use. (See: The Humane Interface for detailed discussion.)
I will say I don't have speed issues, but it's obvious the SBN is juicing up the ability of their sub-sites to drive revenue. Hey do you think they bought CB for charity? Markos might play a loony lefty at DailyKos, but the guy is a shrew businessman.
To me the forums have remained unchanged which is cool. I always have felt that's the core of the CB community. I see the front page as the top of that community, with social integration, etc driving further community growth, and that's a good thing.
Integrating the commenting on articles versus forums is actually a hard problem and parallels an issue at my current job. I used to think it should flow through, but now I like it separate.
Anyways the community >> the interface, so I'll be staying.
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I don't participate in the front page because when I was banned a while back my front page posting privileges were taken away as well and never returned. I liked reading the front page and every once in a while participated but once the right to participate was taken away, I never returned, even after the new format came in.
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I wrote a month and a half ago about the marginalization of the Fan Posts and I agree with you 100%. But, no matter how much we bring this up they'll never change it back. I tend to skip all the main stories as well, as many of them are simply theories or imaginings. Very little "news" is actually reported. This is turning into Bleacher Report.
Here's what I wrote, which I think plays in line with your comments:
Since the site's redesign, which marginalized the Fan Posts by pushing them so far down the page, there have barely been any comments made in the Fan Post section. If you look at the past 12-15 posts, most have 0 comments, and most posts are well thought out and worthy of discussion. I always found the Fan Posts to be the second most important part of the site, next to the "breaking news" (Moderator Posts) at the top.
The Forums are fine, but the Posts really allow for more of a personal expression of one's thoughts. The comments are easier to read and everything is better organized. With the Forums, you have to go back and sometimes read pages upon pages of pasted "quotes" and silly comments just to get to the meat of the discussion, but that's not so with the Posts. With the posts, everything is laid out for you in one clean, organized page.
If possible, I think it would be an improvement to the site to move the Fan Posts farther up, perhaps replacing the "Latest News" section, which simply repeats news headlines directly adjacent to it. That section seems a bit redundant, so it can probably be killed.
Viva la Fan Posts!
Thanks for your time.
p.s. I do understand the irony that I used a Forum to bring up this topic of discussion. I assumed a Post would be largely ignored.
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I concur with these observations and suggestions.
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This is turning into Bleacher Report.
Turning into Bleacher Report? You kiss your mother with that mouth?
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Maybe it's because more stories are being published - but maybe it's because of this wretched design that took the place of what was in-place and working just fine before.
It seems like comments on regular day-to-day posts are lower than before the design changes.
I love this new bleacher report attitude SBNation has adopted, emphasizing money and advertising over quality user experience.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it
This is how I feel. I usually don't find the blog posts particularly interesting and I feel like there is more navigation now to get to forums. I would like to see the forum links up top again.
Celticsblog has been great at building community, but the writing has never been particularly good quality and very rarely has any original content (such as interviews based on direct access to players). I am not a fan of all the reposting of content from elsewhere with a some snarky comments.
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I tend to skip all the main stories as well, as many of them are simply theories or imaginings. Very little "news" is actually reported.
This is always a source of debate, but the place of a blog isn't necessarily to report news. That's a big part of what we do, but writing feature articles is a big part of the blog experience, too. If people solely want news, they're probably just as well served at ESPN Boston. Perhaps it's pretentious, but I think a lot of the authors here (myself included) like to think that they occasionally add insight or drive discussion in a way that fans enjoy.
This is how I feel. I usually don't find the blog posts particularly interesting and I feel like there is more navigation now to get to forums. I would like to see the forum links up top again.
Celticsblog has been great at building community, but the writing has never been particularly good quality and very rarely has any original content (such as interviews based on direct access to players). I am not a fan of all the reposting of content from elsewhere with a some snarky comments.
Haha. Ouch. This is an equally valid point of view.
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I just read the forums now. The home page just never grew on me. It might be like that for most ppl and that's why comments are down.
This.
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This latest update has caused me to avoid talking to my wife.
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This latest update has caused me to avoid talking to my wife.
I've heard that avoiding one's wife is the easiest way to have a long and happy marriage. Score one for CelticsBlog!
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Maybe it's because more stories are being published - but maybe it's because of this wretched design that took the place of what was in-place and working just fine before.
It seems like comments on regular day-to-day posts are lower than before the design changes.
I love this new bleacher report attitude SBNation has adopted, emphasizing money and advertising over quality user experience.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it
Maybe it's because of crappy thread titles
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I don't think my forum posting has been affected, but I will admit i completely skip the front page now and just go directly to the forums. I just hate the front page.
This. Which is a pity, because the blog has some good writers.
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we can't please everyone, so that's why it is a good thing there's a forums to give folks the option to "skip the front page" and engage in the community here
also, I've never claimed to be a great writer, but I think I do the blog thing pretty well - when I'm not being too lazy that is ;)
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front page is terrible imo. i skip it all together now, which i never really did b4 the changes. i used to check out a few things on the front page here and there is something sparked my interest.
i agree with what others have already said.....no real news/interviews/player access provided, reposting, kruddy layout, and the whole bleacher report comparison fits imo.
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no real news/interviews/player access provided
Who is paying the salary for the reporters who are going to start getting these scoops / interviewers?
For a fan-run blog where authors and contributors don't get salaries, I'm pretty happy with the quality of the content we put out there.
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I too don't usually click on anything on the front pae now, except to click on a Forums post ;D
However, I'm not going to complain about it. This community is free to its' members, and I appreciate the opportunity to trade thoughts with fellow Celtics fans.
I also like the chatroom during games.
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The content is good, the writers are good, but the layout and slowness is what kills me. I just don't understand why this hasn't been scrapped?
Jeff, are you considering leaving SBN?
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I hope I'm not coming off as jerk because clearly I'm a fan of this site. My problem is that now when I instinctively slam into my keyboard "www.celticsblog.com" I face palm knowing that I'll be sitting through 2 minutes of lag.
I literally had to reprogram myself to "forums.celticsblog.com"
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It runs so slow on any computer I've been on, so now I actually go to other sites bc I've had enough of Celticsblog freezing my laptop and smart phone.
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It's free. Some of the front page content is unparalelled - for example Roy's Salary Cap articles, draft analysis, etc. Great fan perspectives. I feel if you are following the Celts here you might be a deep weeds guy, then the front page blog won't have as much value as the discussion (cause you already read the other cites about celts.) But one step down the forum lurker / more casual fan - the blog is a great jumping off point.
Are you guys using Chrome? I don't see a perf problem with Chrome on my iMac and broadband.
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no real news/interviews/player access provided
Who is paying the salary for the reporters who are going to start getting these scoops / interviewers?
For a fan-run blog where authors and contributors don't get salaries, I'm pretty happy with the quality of the content we put out there.
it isn't my concern if anyone gets paid, as i am not on the staff, but am a "consumer" per se. consumer, not that i pay for the service, but that my (any everyone) hits to the site generate revenue through advertisements.
it is just an observation on my, and others, part that the front page doesn't serve a newsworthy purpose imo.
the forums are good, the front page stinks. just my opinion
people are providing input, so im providing mine
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It's free. Some of the front page content is unparalelled - for example Roy's Salary Cap articles, draft analysis, etc. Great fan perspectives. I feel if you are following the Celts here you might be a deep weeds guy, then the front page blog won't have as much value as the discussion (cause you already read the other cites about celts.) But one step down the forum lurker / more casual fan - the blog is a great jumping off point.
Are you guys using Chrome? I don't see a perf problem with Chrome on my iMac and broadband.
Same here, in reference to Chrome. I've never had a problem with the design if I've opened it in Google Chrome. It's always opened smoothly with it for me.
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no real news/interviews/player access provided
Who is paying the salary for the reporters who are going to start getting these scoops / interviewers?
For a fan-run blog where authors and contributors don't get salaries, I'm pretty happy with the quality of the content we put out there.
it isn't my concern if anyone gets paid, as i am not on the staff, but am a "consumer" per se. consumer, not that i pay for the service, but that my (any everyone) hits to the site generate revenue through advertisements.
it is just an observation on my, and others, part that the front page doesn't serve a newsworthy purpose imo.
the forums are good, the front page stinks. just my opinion
people are providing input, so im providing mine
... and I'm providing my input, which is that your expectations for a fan blog might be a little high, if you're expecting regular scoops and interviews (both of which have been featured on CB, by the way.)
The content we provide is generally a collation of news from other sources, and author insight. That's pretty much the blog model.
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no real news/interviews/player access provided
Who is paying the salary for the reporters who are going to start getting these scoops / interviewers?
For a fan-run blog where authors and contributors don't get salaries, I'm pretty happy with the quality of the content we put out there.
it isn't my concern if anyone gets paid, as i am not on the staff, but am a "consumer" per se. consumer, not that i pay for the service, but that my (any everyone) hits to the site generate revenue through advertisements.
it is just an observation on my, and others, part that the front page doesn't serve a newsworthy purpose imo.
the forums are good, the front page stinks. just my opinion
people are providing input, so im providing mine
... and I'm providing my input, which is that your expectations for a fan blog might be a little high, if you're expecting regular scoops and interviews (both of which have been featured on CB, by the way.)
The content we provide is generally a collation of news from other sources, and author insight. That's pretty much the blog model.
i understand, which is why i dont waste time with the front page and go right to the forums, which i like.
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I also haven't noticed any lagging on the front page or anywhere else and I am a Firefox user.
I also think the writers here on the front page are pretty good but I always liked it better when I could start reading the front page to see if the article was worth reading rather than going by a title and picture.
Also, I liked the Fanpost area and Fanshot area because they were very visible and often people could have particularly good Fanposts or particularly newsworthy Fanshots be promoted to a headliner which I don't really see much anymore.
Then again I don't look because for some reason I am still not allowed to participate there for some unknown reason
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Then again I don't look because for some reason I am still not allowed to participate there for some unknown reason
I'll look into that for you, nick. Any suspension should have expired ages ago.
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It's free. Some of the front page content is unparalelled - for example Roy's Salary Cap articles, draft analysis, etc. Great fan perspectives. I feel if you are following the Celts here you might be a deep weeds guy, then the front page blog won't have as much value as the discussion (cause you already read the other cites about celts.) But one step down the forum lurker / more casual fan - the blog is a great jumping off point.
Are you guys using Chrome? I don't see a perf problem with Chrome on my iMac and broadband.
Same here, in reference to Chrome. I've never had a problem with the design if I've opened it in Google Chrome. It's always opened smoothly with it for me.
Chrome fixes all. It works perfectly on Chrome and I love the new format. It took some getting used to but I love it now. The only little hang up is sometimes the comments don't load on my iphone.
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we can't please everyone, so that's why it is a good thing there's a forums to give folks the option to "skip the front page" and engage in the community here
also, I've never claimed to be a great writer, but I think I do the blog thing pretty well - when I'm not being too lazy that is ;)
I understand that, but I don't think any of this is your fault. The front page has always been a great read, but the new format just doesn't do it for me -- it's painfully slow, I can never find anything, and it has all sort of stories I don't really care about (national headlines, etc.).
I just always feel my time is better used to drop by here and chat with people (there are always great discussions, Celtics,basketball, sports or otherwise).
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joining the thread late...but my sig says it all for me.
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I didn't read all the post but I agree with what I did.
I just bypass the front page altogether and I also had the live-chat bookmarked from seasons ago so I never had to look for the new placement. I can see all the daily links on an app on my phone "24-7 Boston Hoops". If not on the app I just visit other sites for up to date news. I notice that people put the news on the forums LATE, I suspect this is because of the front page layout... I see the same stories earlier in the day, for I a while I wonder but then realized no one visits the front page anymore LOL.
SBN messed up all the pages b/c I hate the layout for the Bucs page I visit. I can never find the link to the right quarter where people are chatting. It's all weird.
Oh well, guess it's here to stay...
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would be interested to see Jeff weigh in on this topic.
at this point, what else do you really want me to say? I'm sorry?
not looking for apologies but your 2 cents on your opinion of the front page format. if, as others have mentioned here, the format change was forced upon you, I wouldn't make the assumption that you're 100% behind it. I'm more curious about what you think improved and what you think is worse about it.
this site is your baby and we all owe you a debt of gratitude for creating it so your opinion on this would be really interesting to say the least
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would be interested to see Jeff weigh in on this topic.
at this point, what else do you really want me to say? I'm sorry?
not looking for apologies but your 2 cents on your opinion of the front page format. if, as others have mentioned here, the format change was forced upon you, I wouldn't make the assumption that you're 100% behind it. I'm more curious about what you think improved and what you think is worse about it.
this site is your baby and we all owe you a debt of gratitude for creating it so your opinion on this would be really interesting to say the least
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no real news/interviews/player access provided
Who is paying the salary for the reporters who are going to start getting these scoops / interviewers?
For a fan-run blog where authors and contributors don't get salaries, I'm pretty happy with the quality of the content we put out there.
I think one point about what he said is that the articles often add nothing. Not that there aren't some articles that are insightful. A lot though are just average guy talking at a bar stuff.
Not a big deal, but the latest forum topics should always be high up on the front page and the latest forum topics should be listed when reading blog posts.
I regret even talking about this. The real reason for a downturn in posts is probably related to team performance.
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I do hope Jeff and his colleagues know that most sane people here do not blame them for the redesign of the site. It was a business decision that most likely needed to be made. That's acceptable. We don't pay to use this site, so everyone should take that into consideration. This isn't Time Warner or some other company with horrible service. This is a free site run by guys who probably have more Celtics' passion than bank income from this site.
I do think this site has done a terrific job of building a community. I've only been a member for a year or two, but I already recognize other posters and I check in every single day. So, overall I'm happy with the site. The guys that constantly complain are obviously happy too, as they continue to return time and again.
I just think that many members do make valid points, and it's nice to see Jeff and others on here reading these Forums and Posts (I'm assuming) and responding.
Thank you, Jeff, for taking my Forum comment about the Fan Posts seriously. It will be nice to see those become more of an important section of the site.
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for everyone who is experiencing painfully slow loading. try blocking some scripts. main page works great for me now. i use opera if wondering. i still miss the old design, so fresh, so clean, but the new shiny blog has improved since its first implementation.
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This is turning into Bleacher Report.
Turning into Bleacher Report? You kiss your mother with that mouth?
http://www.theonion.com/articles/furious-bleacher-report-editor-will-make-staff-ran,30662/
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I do hope Jeff and his colleagues know that most sane people here do not blame them for the redesign of the site. It was a business decision that most likely needed to be made. That's acceptable. We don't pay to use this site, so everyone should take that into consideration. This isn't Time Warner or some other company with horrible service. This is a free site run by guys who probably have more Celtics' passion than bank income from this site.
I do think this site has done a terrific job of building a community. I've only been a member for a year or two, but I already recognize other posters and I check in every single day. So, overall I'm happy with the site. The guys that constantly complain are obviously happy too, as they continue to return time and again.
I just think that many members do make valid points, and it's nice to see Jeff and others on here reading these Forums and Posts (I'm assuming) and responding.
Thank you, Jeff, for taking my Forum comment about the Fan Posts seriously. It will be nice to see those become more of an important section of the site.
I think everyone here recognizes that it was a very poorly executed 'upgrade' that Jeff and crew are in no way personally responsible for.
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For what its worth i want to add that before the design switch i would visit celticsblog multiple times a day. Now no matter what computer i use, the front page rarely loads. I visit maybe once every three weeks now. I wish the site was more user friendly. My sites now are celticshub, espnboston redsarmy and green street. It bums me out because i grew up with celticsblog. Hopeit changes soon. Go celts!
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For what its worth i want to add that before the design switch i would visit celticsblog multiple times a day. Now no matter what computer i use, the front page rarely loads. I visit maybe once every three weeks now. I wish the site was more user friendly. My sites now are celticshub, espnboston redsarmy and green street. It bums me out because i grew up with celticsblog. Hopeit changes soon. Go celts!
What browser are you using?
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hmmm
the only problems i have here is during playoffs
the world seems to be tryin to get in at that time
i cruise the blog with no drama
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Worst part about the new layout is that I can't find a list of the posts in the order that they were posted. I loved the old Celtics Blog because I could just scroll down the page and find all the stories I missed in order.
Now, I can't because there is no particular order to the posts. I mean new ones are there daily and I see them, but I miss out on some of them because they get lost in translation and it really sucks cause I like the work and writing.
Maybe it is just me being a simpleton but I wish there was a way to get the recent posts in order of newest to oldest.
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Worst part about the new layout is that I can't find a list of the posts in the order that they were posted. I loved the old Celtics Blog because I could just scroll down the page and find all the stories I missed in order.
Now, I can't because there is no particular order to the posts. I mean new ones are there daily and I see them, but I miss out on some of them because they get lost in translation and it really sucks cause I like the work and writing.
Maybe it is just me being a simpleton but I wish there was a way to get the recent posts in order of newest to oldest.
It's not particularly stylish, but here you go:
http://www.celticsblog.com/archives/full
I think that's everything, in reverse chronological order.