Who is giving AL 4 years

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Mavericks Emerge As Favorites To Sign Al Horford

If it's really the Mavs that this info is coming from then this has to be a negotiating ploy.  Why go to the Mavs and lose when you can stay with the Celtics and lose.

Al Horford has made about 150 million from his NBA contracts.

Getting 100 million instead of 60 or 75 or 80 (whatever the C's offered) is a big deal.

Huh ? Whether he totals 150Mil, 200Mil, 250Mil, or "just" 50Mil, Horford and his family and his grandkids and their grandkids are all set financially for a very long time. Give me a break.

Nope, no break deserved.  This is not the way players look at it.  The correct comparison is 100 vs. 60.  Not "a lot of money" vs. "a whole lot of money".

I realize this is not the perspective of most players, though I would think Al Horford would be more level-headed than most. A lot of these players have a perspective that is way out of whack.

btw, I always liked your little signature quote from Johnny - I got to meet him after a game in Atlanta, 1978. Started listening to him on the radio at nite in the early 70's, when I could pick up the signal from WBZ.

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Mavericks Emerge As Favorites To Sign Al Horford

If it's really the Mavs that this info is coming from then this has to be a negotiating ploy.  Why go to the Mavs and lose when you can stay with the Celtics and lose.

Al Horford has made about 150 million from his NBA contracts.

Getting 100 million instead of 60 or 75 or 80 (whatever the C's offered) is a big deal.

Huh ? Whether he totals 150Mil, 200Mil, 250Mil, or "just" 50Mil, Horford and his family and his grandkids and their grandkids are all set financially for a very long time. Give me a break.

Nope, no break deserved.  This is not the way players look at it.  The correct comparison is 100 vs. 60.  Not "a lot of money" vs. "a whole lot of money".

I realize this is not the perspective of most players, though I would think Al Horford would be more level-headed than most. A lot of these players have a perspective that is way out of whack.

btw, I always liked your little signature quote from Johnny - I got to meet him after a game in Atlanta, 1978. Started listening to him on the radio at nite in the early 70's, when I could pick up the signal from WBZ.

It's not just about the money, though; it's about what the money represents. Al felt insulted when Atlanta wouldn't give him the max (even though they were still offering him more than anyone else could), in part because it meant that they didn't value him as highly as he thought they should

If a team is willing to offer you 4/$100, they clearly value you very highly and really want you on the team. Probably more than the team offering 1 year and $40 million less

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Mavericks Emerge As Favorites To Sign Al Horford

If it's really the Mavs that this info is coming from then this has to be a negotiating ploy.  Why go to the Mavs and lose when you can stay with the Celtics and lose.

Al Horford has made about 150 million from his NBA contracts.

Getting 100 million instead of 60 or 75 or 80 (whatever the C's offered) is a big deal.

Huh ? Whether he totals 150Mil, 200Mil, 250Mil, or "just" 50Mil, Horford and his family and his grandkids and their grandkids are all set financially for a very long time. Give me a break.

Nope, no break deserved.  This is not the way players look at it.  The correct comparison is 100 vs. 60.  Not "a lot of money" vs. "a whole lot of money".

Basketball is a business. Al should maximize his earnings as much as possible for as long as possible.

Amen. Show me the money. If someone here is going to say $40 million isn't a big deal and that Horford shouldn't try to maximize his earnings, then they are most likely a hypocrite because if the situation was that they were in Horford's shoes, they would definitely think $40 million is a very, very big deal.

[jpotter33]

If Al is going to Dallas for that extra money, then I’m all for it. Make that money while you can, man. We likely wouldn’t be contenders if he stayed anyways, and I don’t really want him on the books for $100M, too. So I’ll be happy for him. Will be good to root for him in Dallas, too.

Anywhere but the Lakers (abd maybe Brooklyn with Kyrie) - then you’ll be dead to me.

[Birdman]

Dont. be shock if its the 76ers!!!

[celticsclay]

Dont. be shock if its the 76ers!!!

I really don't get this. He is a true center (and even moreso a few years down the road as he slows down). I don't really think Embiid or Horford can guard on the perimeter very well, its hard to imagine them playing on the floor together for major minutes. Isolation scoring is also really important for closing minutes of close basketball games. Who is the 76ers best iso scorer with horford, simmons, embiid, reddick and ?

[Silky]

It's gonna be the clippers or dallas.

But hopefully its via a s&t with a pick included.

Same as kyrie.

Then 1 tpe for kemba.
And then part of the horford tpe for capela
Leavi g about 10 million in tpe.
Full mle

[Moranis]

I still keep coming back to Al opted out of 30 million this year.  I think there was a pretty good chance (barring injury) that next summer he would have gotten 3 years, 70 million from someone (~23.5 million a year - and probably could have gotten a 4 year contract at something like 90 million over 4 years), such that I'm not so sure he actually needed to opt out.  Now if he eclipses 100 million, then I think that was a pretty good decision to opt out, but I'm not so sure he actually needed to opt out to maximize his earning potential. 

[gift]

I still keep coming back to Al opted out of 30 million this year.  I think there was a pretty good chance (barring injury) that next summer he would have gotten 3 years, 70 million from someone (~23.5 million a year - and probably could have gotten a 4 year contract at something like 90 million over 4 years), such that I'm not so sure he actually needed to opt out.  Now if he eclipses 100 million, then I think that was a pretty good decision to opt out, but I'm not so sure he actually needed to opt out to maximize his earning potential.

There's also optimizing vs. guaranteeing. He may not have needed to opt out in order to maximize his earnings, but he did in order to guarantee it.

[Roy H.]

If Al is going to Dallas for that extra money, then I’m all for it. Make that money while you can, man. We likely wouldn’t be contenders if he stayed anyways, and I don’t really want him on the books for $100M, too. So I’ll be happy for him. Will be good to root for him in Dallas, too.

Anywhere but the Lakers (abd maybe Brooklyn with Kyrie) - then you’ll be dead to me.

I read today that he doesn’t have a meeting scheduled with Dallas. That could be a smokescreen though.

[liam]

The Kings?

[dreamgreen]

I think it comes down to $ I mean 4 years $80 million is a LOT different that 4 years $100+ million. Some team could be dumb enough, Lakers are stupid wouldn't surprise me haha.

[nickagneta]

I think it comes down to $ I mean 4 years $80 million is a LOT different that 4 years $100+ million. Some team could be dumb enough, Lakers are stupid wouldn't surprise me haha.

And 4 years $100 million is still even more different than the 4 year $112 million deal that is supposedly out there waiting for him. Even more different if that 4 year $112 million deal is from a team with no state income tax, like a Texas or Florida team.

Go get paid Al. No ill feelings towards you from me. You were great in your three years here.

[tazzmaniac]

Dont. be shock if its the 76ers!!!

I really don't get this. He is a true center (and even moreso a few years down the road as he slows down). I don't really think Embiid or Horford can guard on the perimeter very well, its hard to imagine them playing on the floor together for major minutes. Isolation scoring is also really important for closing minutes of close basketball games. Who is the 76ers best iso scorer with horford, simmons, embiid, reddick and ?

I think the Sixers are serious about bringing Butler and Harris back so I doubt they've offered Horford anything yet.  If the Sixers keep Butler but lose Harris, I do think Horford would be a good option for the Sixers if they could get him on a 3 year deal. 
He can start at the 4 and slide over to the 5 when Embiid goes to the bench.  I think you underestimate Horford and Embiid guarding on the perimeter and they'd be backstopping each other. 

As to your question, Embiid would be the best iso scorer amongst the 4 you mention and he's pretty good at it.  However closing out games is why they need to retain Butler and retaining Butler would be my priority over Harris even with the age difference. 

[bopna]

I think it comes down to $ I mean 4 years $80 million is a LOT different that 4 years $100+ million. Some team could be dumb enough, Lakers are stupid wouldn't surprise me haha.

And 4 years $100 million is still even more different than the 4 year $112 million deal that is supposedly out there waiting for him. Even more different if that 4 year $112 million deal is from a team with no state income tax, like a Texas or Florida team.

Go get paid Al. No ill feelings towards you from me. You were great in your three years here.

Even if he goes to the Fakers?. 😁