Romeo Langford(merged threads)

[saltlover]

He seems like a reasonable gamble at 14 I think the issue is most of us would rather gamble on a position of need. I mean to pick a guy at 14 to have him play in Maine all year makes little sense to me.

Why a “position of need”? We literally turn over half of our roster practically every season — for a guy you’re developing, what the need is now might not be the same as when he is ready.  Sure, we need a big, but that is better addressed in free agency as an immediate fix.  Any big selected at 14 was likely going spend a similar amount of time in Maine, or if not we would be in trouble anyway.

If you think he’s a decent gamble, be happy with the pick.  If you think he’s bust, be upset, but don’t let “need” get in the way of your thinking for anyone outside the top 5.

[CelticsElite]

guards are a dime a dozen

star guards like to play with star bigs

until we tank and get our embiid we are screwed.

who was the embiid available at 14?

[liam]

I thought this was interesting:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/2019-nba-draft-iu-basketballs-romeo-langford-selected-by-boston-celtics/ar-AADcBM9

[cltc5]

Ill say this I enjoyed and thought the Stevens run team basketball was much better than the cluster we saw last year.  That said, It was worth a shot, but I think now we’ll see some nice developmental pieces to solidify our team approach.  Yes superstars are nice but great team like spurs, warriors, and even Toronto this year are built with team first basketball.  Hope to get back to that

[hodgy03038]

He looks good. Thanks.

[Neurotic Guy]

Ill say this I enjoyed and thought the Stevens run team basketball was much better than the cluster we saw last year.  That said, It was worth a shot, but I think now we’ll see some nice developmental pieces to solidify our team approach.  Yes superstars are nice but great team like spurs, warriors, and even Toronto this year are built with team first basketball.  Hope to get back to that

I have confidence in Danny and Brad that they can acquire and mesh talented, versatile players and be competitive — as in a 3-5 seed in the East. The big question for me is how they acquire top 10 guys.  The road they were on was to have 2 superstars and now they have none.  If Jays don’t soar this could be a long journey.

[tazzmaniac]

Ill say this I enjoyed and thought the Stevens run team basketball was much better than the cluster we saw last year.  That said, It was worth a shot, but I think now we’ll see some nice developmental pieces to solidify our team approach.  Yes superstars are nice but great team like spurs, warriors, and even Toronto this year are built with team first basketball.  Hope to get back to that

Great teams are built around superstars.  If you want to be a contender, you need stars.   

[keevsnick]

He seems like a reasonable gamble at 14 I think the issue is most of us would rather gamble on a position of need. I mean to pick a guy at 14 to have him play in Maine all year makes little sense to me.

Why a “position of need”? We literally turn over half of our roster practically every season — for a guy you’re developing, what the need is now might not be the same as when he is ready.  Sure, we need a big, but that is better addressed in free agency as an immediate fix.  Any big selected at 14 was likely going spend a similar amount of time in Maine, or if not we would be in trouble anyway.

If you think he’s a decent gamble, be happy with the pick.  If you think he’s bust, be upset, but don’t let “need” get in the way of your thinking for anyone outside the top 5.

Ahhhhhh, some sanity. I think most people are angry because we took another wing. But if there's type of guy you want a lot of it's long wings. And it's not like he is completely devoid of skills we could use, he gets to the line a lot and finishes very well. I seem to remember half this blog screaming at our guys to get to the hole.

We will see, ultimately right now nobody knows what he will be. Seems to have some upside, so I'm happy
 

[Sketch5]

He seems like a reasonable gamble at 14 I think the issue is most of us would rather gamble on a position of need. I mean to pick a guy at 14 to have him play in Maine all year makes little sense to me.

Why a “position of need”? We literally turn over half of our roster practically every season — for a guy you’re developing, what the need is now might not be the same as when he is ready.  Sure, we need a big, but that is better addressed in free agency as an immediate fix.  Any big selected at 14 was likely going spend a similar amount of time in Maine, or if not we would be in trouble anyway.

If you think he’s a decent gamble, be happy with the pick.  If you think he’s bust, be upset, but don’t let “need” get in the way of your thinking for anyone outside the top 5.

Ahhhhhh, some sanity. I think most people are angry because we took another wing. But if there's type of guy you want a lot of it's long wings. And it's not like he is completely devoid of skills we could use, he gets to the line a lot and finishes very well. I seem to remember half this blog screaming at our guys to get to the hole.

We will see, ultimately right now nobody knows what he will be. Seems to have some upside, so I'm happy

I think his shot could be better than it was advertised last year. playing with a bum hand and still able to score was impressive, and he shot well from the line which usually translates to the three at some point.

[gouki88]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FnZrEmorIw I think this is a nice breakdown of his strengths and his weaknesses. He seems to have a bunch of potential, and some of his advanced numbers are very encouraging. Hopefully the mental/effort side of him will continue to improve with time on an NBA team.

The weakness section was really concerning. Not a read and react player, poor passing vision/skills, spaces out on D, often fails to put up a fight.

The fact that the strengths section had a bunch of excuses didn't bode well. I actually thought, oh its all one discussion strength and weakness. Then the screen for weakness did popped up.

Langford was a huge reach.

He isn't a reach for me. He's just not a fit. If last season taught us anything is that we need less ball dominate players and more catch and shoot guys. If we lose Brown in a trade drafting Langford at 14 would be a homerun.

Well after this season I’ll know if DA is just a bad drafter or not. At this point I think he is a horrible drafter. I didn’t like any of his picks as I fell they didn’t fit what we already have and didn’t fill any of our needs. Unless Rozier is walking drafting 2 guards just don’t make sense to me. We have a gaping whole at center and have a plethora of Power Forwards and we draft an undersized PF? It was just a senseless draft to me and Langford doesn’t seem like he’s all that talented (to me). Just look like nothing more than an average player.

Couldn’t have said it better.  Terrible draft.  What is the obsession with undersized players.  You win in this league with dominate big men.  We have none.

This draft was absolute terrible for the Celtics. Washington picking Hachimura at #9 is bad as well, but Boston had the worst draft of all the teams.

You have 3 first round picks and you end up with Romeo Langford, Grant Williams and Carsen Edwards.

I think Langford is the worst one, I wouldn't even be surprised if he's out of the league in 5 years. Williams isn't terrible at #22, in the best case scenario you have a Draymond Green type of player, but Williams being undersized will limit him regardless. Edwards is fine at #33, he can be micro-wave scorer, I'm kind of excited to watch him (is he getting playing time though?).

But I'm not going to justify this by pointing out some bright spots. It's been a total failure. There were capable starting centers on the board (the thing we lack you know) with Bitadze and Fernando, we didn't gamble on someone with high upside (Little, Bazley, Bol) which you can afford when you have 3 picks at your disposal. 

It looks like the Celtics had NO idea what to do with their picks. It's ridiculous.

If I had known the draft would work out like this I'd rather have been as crazy as the Lakers and have given New Orleans 4 draft picks for one year of Davis.

This off-season is a complete disaster. I have no words for it. From a likely perennial contender we went to one of the worst run teams in the league.

The only teams that are in a worse position than us are probably: Charlotte, Detroit, Washington, Orlando, Miami and Cleveland. Luckily they're all in the East, so we have a chance to keep making the playoffs 

Really, did you see what Phoenix did?

Phoenix made some weird picks. I don't think Cameron Johnson is necessarily a bad pick, but not what Phoenix needed to do. It comes down to whether Phoenix can sign their new point guard in free agency.

If Irving, Walker or Russell ends up in a Suns uniform everything makes a lot more sense. But if that doesn't you're right. Minnesota is in a bad spot as well, it's unfair to ask Towns to carry that team into the playoffs.

So you’re willing to wait on passing judgement over PHX and their draft until after free agency, but not ours? Weird double standard.

Also like how you say we took no gambles on anyone with high upside when that’s exactly what Langford is

[CelticsElite]

Romeo Langford shooting with a ping pong paddle tied to his left hand. Scott Morrison: “I believe it has something to do with keeping his guide hand thumb off the ball.”

Outside shooting one of Langford’s obvious weaknesses coming into the NBA. Celtics working on it already.

Romeo Langford said the Celtics brought the guide hand issue to his attention to remake his form a bit, but he has heard it before.

“It kind of messes your shot up, makes you get bad rotation.”


https://twitter.com/byjayking/status/1146119247187329031?s=21

[rondofan1255]

Safe to say he won’t play in SL?

Haven’t seen anything saying he’s ruled out though

[footey]

Romeo Langford shooting with a ping pong paddle tied to his left hand. Scott Morrison: “I believe it has something to do with keeping his guide hand thumb off the ball.”

Outside shooting one of Langford’s obvious weaknesses coming into the NBA. Celtics working on it already.

Romeo Langford said the Celtics brought the guide hand issue to his attention to remake his form a bit, but he has heard it before.

“It kind of messes your shot up, makes you get bad rotation.”


https://twitter.com/byjayking/status/1146119247187329031?s=21

Yeah, a common problem for shooters including pro shooters, is that their guide hand thumb has a tendency to push the ball, getting it off track. 

Some of the best shooters (like Curry) will actually lift their guide fingers off the ball toward the end of the release.

I'm really glad they are addressing his mechanics.  There are a few things he needs to work on; one at a time, though.

[PhoSita]

On the one hand you never want to hear about a guy having to remake his jumpshot.


On the other hand, it's good to know he's working on it.


Pierce seemed to come in to every season with a slightly different jumpshot.

[dreamgreen]

Good news for him is he will have all year in Maine to fix his shot since he didn't fix it through college!