$18m a year for Marcus?
I'd put his value in restricted free agency in the Andre Roberson range ($30m over 3 years).
Celticsblog also thought Sullinger and Olynyk would both cash in and I believe some even thought KO would make 20 million a year, 18 mil a year for a guy who can't shoot, is just as off base. The one given here is that guys on the blog over value our guys. It is almost a given at this point.
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I think Marcus is worth an extension, but anything over $11-12m a year is a stretch.
I think this number sounds about right. Would you complete a full extension with Smart at $12M a year by October, something like 5/$60M? Do rookies get 5 year extensions off of their rookie deal?
5 years is still permissible for rookie extensions, but it seems like teams have skewed away from that for non-max guys.
With that said, I'd offer Marcus the extension Andre Roberson turned down: 4 years, $48m. I think that's fair market value for a great defensive player with significant offensive limitations.
5 years is only allowable if you give them the max. For the last CBA, you could only give one such player this deal for the entire CBA duration. This CBA you can do it twice. In either case, the max requirement limited many teams' desire to do this, especially with a max salary that was very unpredictable for a few seasons.
Thanks for the clarification. I had Detroit/KCP in mind when thinking of 5 year extensions. I read they initially offered him 5 years at $80m, but the timing of the offer may have been reported incorrectly.
That wasn't an extension, that was an offer made during the free agency period, and so was using Bird rights, which can be for up to 5 years, regardless of dollar amount. But extensions signed in October of the player's fourth year, as was being discussed with Smart, can only be 5 years if they're max deals.