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Quote from: gouki88 on October 26, 2018, 01:59:18 AMQuote from: tazzmaniac on October 26, 2018, 01:55:56 AMQuote from: liam on October 25, 2018, 11:52:54 PMQuote from: CelticsElite on October 25, 2018, 11:29:58 PMhttp://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25083858/houston-rockets-offer-wolves-four-first-round-draft-picks-jimmy-butlerThat sounds good but for late 1st round picks isn't that big of a deal...That is very good depending on the protections. Good chance Butler doesn't even re-sign with Houston. How good is Houston going to be in 2023, 2025 or even 2021 when Paul will be 36 and Harden will be 32? They don't have any young talent besides Capela. Even the 2019 pick could be better than expected. Paul's missed 20+ games the past two seasons. That CP3 contract is going to very quickly be the worst one in the NBA I reckonPaying 36 year old players not named Lebron 40M+ isn't a good idea. The Wall contract will probably be the worst.
Quote from: tazzmaniac on October 26, 2018, 01:55:56 AMQuote from: liam on October 25, 2018, 11:52:54 PMQuote from: CelticsElite on October 25, 2018, 11:29:58 PMhttp://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25083858/houston-rockets-offer-wolves-four-first-round-draft-picks-jimmy-butlerThat sounds good but for late 1st round picks isn't that big of a deal...That is very good depending on the protections. Good chance Butler doesn't even re-sign with Houston. How good is Houston going to be in 2023, 2025 or even 2021 when Paul will be 36 and Harden will be 32? They don't have any young talent besides Capela. Even the 2019 pick could be better than expected. Paul's missed 20+ games the past two seasons. That CP3 contract is going to very quickly be the worst one in the NBA I reckon
Quote from: liam on October 25, 2018, 11:52:54 PMQuote from: CelticsElite on October 25, 2018, 11:29:58 PMhttp://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25083858/houston-rockets-offer-wolves-four-first-round-draft-picks-jimmy-butlerThat sounds good but for late 1st round picks isn't that big of a deal...That is very good depending on the protections. Good chance Butler doesn't even re-sign with Houston. How good is Houston going to be in 2023, 2025 or even 2021 when Paul will be 36 and Harden will be 32? They don't have any young talent besides Capela. Even the 2019 pick could be better than expected. Paul's missed 20+ games the past two seasons.
Quote from: CelticsElite on October 25, 2018, 11:29:58 PMhttp://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25083858/houston-rockets-offer-wolves-four-first-round-draft-picks-jimmy-butlerThat sounds good but for late 1st round picks isn't that big of a deal...
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25083858/houston-rockets-offer-wolves-four-first-round-draft-picks-jimmy-butler
Quote from: SparzWizard on October 26, 2018, 03:34:35 AM valid point but getting Butler is the only solution for the Rockets since the Championship is their target. They are not going anywhere with this core and not getting any younger too (yes CP i am talking about you) . Losing Ariza and Moute has really hurt themIt is very risky but they don't have any other way of improving the team
Jimmy Butler and Mike D'Antoni do not seem like a good fit to me. Butler does not play offensively in a way that works for D'Antoni's offense. Throw in Carmelo Anthony on top of that and the Rockets offense will struggle to have the chemistry / cohesion of previous years. Two guys (Harden, CP3) who want to play D'Antoni ball.Two guys (Butler, Melo) who do not want to play D'Antoni ball. Only 1 ball. 4 guys who need it. None who will play happily / effectively without it. All guys who will break the offense to get their touches / shots.
Miami has re-engaged the Wolves after the report that the Rockets put 4 firsts on the table. Minnesota apparently doesn't want to trade Butler to a team in the West and hasn't really engaged Houston, though that may be in part because they likely can't do a trade until next week anyway (when they can include Knight and Chriss).
Quote from: Moranis on October 26, 2018, 03:59:45 PMMiami has re-engaged the Wolves after the report that the Rockets put 4 firsts on the table. Minnesota apparently doesn't want to trade Butler to a team in the West and hasn't really engaged Houston, though that may be in part because they likely can't do a trade until next week anyway (when they can include Knight and Chriss).Where does Miami rank in east with Butler?
though i may incorrect, i believe teams are not allowed to trade draft picks more than 5 years out.so the deal might have resembled the boston-brooklyn deal and had first round swaps involved. or, maybe they have more than one pick in one of those years. then, trading would be all right.
Quote from: hwangjini_1 on October 26, 2018, 09:24:29 PMthough i may incorrect, i believe teams are not allowed to trade draft picks more than 5 years out.so the deal might have resembled the boston-brooklyn deal and had first round swaps involved. or, maybe they have more than one pick in one of those years. then, trading would be all right.it is 7 years, so unless a team has other picks that can be traded they could only trade at most 4 picks (it may only be 3 if they can't trade the current year). So for Houston the picks are 2019, 2021, 2023, and 2025. If any of the picks have protections that end up not transferring, then the 2025 pick would have to become a 2nd rounder since it has to convey that year (i.e. 7 years out).