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Title: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: KGBirdBias on November 25, 2018, 03:21:06 PM
Since Ainge and Stevens don't value big men.

The one trade that may help us if the Cavs are tanking.

Horford to Cavs - he will opt out at the end of the year because he will not want to remain with Cavs but it moves that contract off the Celtics.

Thompson and Korver to Celtics - this fills 2 needs. TT is a hustler, great rebounder and screen setter. Korver comes off the bench with Hayward.

Kyrie
Smart
Tatum
Morris
Thompson

Rozier
Brown
Korver
Hayward
Baynes
Title: Re: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 25, 2018, 03:36:04 PM
No to Thompson.

Korver (or another pure shooter who can move without the ball) would be a welcome addition. I wonder if we could move Rozier for a shooter, or just wait for buyouts to start and use the MLE on one.
Title: Re: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: perks-a-beast on November 25, 2018, 04:32:06 PM
Although probably not possible I’d love to get Love. He’d be masterful in Stevens offense.
Title: Re: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: jpotter33 on November 25, 2018, 04:45:28 PM
Did we really just propose a trade of Al Horford, a five time All Star, for Tristan Thompson and a mid-thirties Kyle Korver?!

(That said, I do think Korver would be a good addition for us off the bench.)
Title: Re: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: KGBirdBias on November 25, 2018, 04:49:11 PM
Yes, because when Horford opts in on his $30M deal next year then what??. I doubt he opts out for a long term deal.
Why not get rid of that salary to a team that will want the cap room?

TT doesnt require the ball to be effective, that's our problem now too many guys want the ball and no one wants to do any dirty work.
Title: Re: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: PhoSita on November 25, 2018, 06:19:40 PM
"because ainge and Stevens don't value big men"

This really says a lot about your understanding of how the Celts have played ball during the tenure of Ainge and Stevens.
Title: Re: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: KGBirdBias on November 25, 2018, 07:28:19 PM
Well name the bigs that have really been good? Stevens loves small ball...playing Crowder, Turner and Tatum at 4. Horford at 5 and now not playing William's when his skills are what we need. We always have a gluttony of guards and forwards.

Name one big man that the Celtics under Ainge and Steven's have developed? I will wait....queue the jeopardy music.

 
Title: Re: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: vjcsmoke on November 25, 2018, 07:31:27 PM
No.... Horford is the foundation of this team on defense and is a great all around big for us.

Rozier for a shooter... ok I'd consider a trade like that straight up.

We should look for young up and coming scorers like Josh Richardson from Miami for instance.
Title: Re: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 25, 2018, 08:44:37 PM
an all-star for two role players...

no thanks
Title: Re: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: RodyTur10 on November 26, 2018, 05:26:48 AM
an all-star for two role players...

no thanks

Al Horford is not an All Star anymore. The only reason he got voted in last year was because of the team's record. Centers like Embiid, Vucevic, Drummond, Sabonis, Kanter, Whiteside and Ibaka (this season) are all better than Horford.
Title: Re: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: Androslav on November 26, 2018, 05:31:11 AM
an all-star for two role players...

no thanks

Al Horford is not an All Star anymore. The only reason he got voted in last year was because of the team's record. Centers like Embiid, Vucevic, Drummond, Sabonis, Kanter, Whiteside and Ibaka (this season) are all better than Horford.
Embiid is the only one that is better.
Others are not even close as all of them have critical weakness for teams to exploit in playoffs.
Title: Re: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: RockinRyA on November 26, 2018, 05:35:46 AM
lol

This team sucks right now but come on, I think this trade idea sucks more.

Trade Rozier for Korver and picks maybe, but not Al.
Title: Re: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 26, 2018, 06:38:50 AM
I doubt they trade with us after the IT debacle,
Title: Re: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: byennie on November 26, 2018, 07:00:21 AM
an all-star for two role players...

no thanks

Al Horford is not an All Star anymore. The only reason he got voted in last year was because of the team's record. Centers like Embiid, Vucevic, Drummond, Sabonis, Kanter, Whiteside and Ibaka (this season) are all better than Horford.

You sure it wasn't because he was averaging 13/8/5, shooting 43% from 3PT and anchoring the league's best defense? Meanwhile Kanter is coming off the bench for the Knicks, because he can't shoot, pass or defend. Yeah, Embiid is better, but let's not get crazy.
Title: Re: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: Androslav on November 26, 2018, 07:27:27 AM
Considering how bad Cavs management is, I would do a deal with them.
Just not this one.
Title: Re: Trade with Cavs??
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 26, 2018, 09:19:23 AM
Quote
Since Ainge and Stevens don't value big men.

The one trade that may help us if the Cavs are tanking.

Horford to Cavs - he will opt out at the end of the year because he will not want to remain with Cavs but it moves that contract off the Celtics.

Thompson and Korver to Celtics - this fills 2 needs. TT is a hustler, great rebounder and screen setter. Korver comes off the bench with Hayward.

So you trade a big man who fits our system in Horford for one that does not TT.  TT might never see playing time under CBS.  This does not make sense, taking this into account.