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Quote from: BballTim on February 14, 2013, 10:13:03 AMQuote from: Mencius on February 14, 2013, 10:07:40 AMHaven't read the whole thread, so don't know if anybody else suggested this, but...A simple trade that could work for both teams is Rondo and Melo for Smith (no muss, no fuss). We lose nothing for this year and add a borderline all-star type. If Danny still really thinks we could make noise in the playoffs despite all our injuries, he could take the big gamble and try this, and he wouldn't have to decimate this year's squad to do it (and of course, he keeps KG and PP in the bargain). Rondo's probably the main reason Smith would want to come to Boston.True, but in a trade scenario, it really wouldn't matter what he wants. Now, keeping him beyond this year would be a different story.
Quote from: Mencius on February 14, 2013, 10:07:40 AMHaven't read the whole thread, so don't know if anybody else suggested this, but...A simple trade that could work for both teams is Rondo and Melo for Smith (no muss, no fuss). We lose nothing for this year and add a borderline all-star type. If Danny still really thinks we could make noise in the playoffs despite all our injuries, he could take the big gamble and try this, and he wouldn't have to decimate this year's squad to do it (and of course, he keeps KG and PP in the bargain). Rondo's probably the main reason Smith would want to come to Boston.
Haven't read the whole thread, so don't know if anybody else suggested this, but...A simple trade that could work for both teams is Rondo and Melo for Smith (no muss, no fuss). We lose nothing for this year and add a borderline all-star type. If Danny still really thinks we could make noise in the playoffs despite all our injuries, he could take the big gamble and try this, and he wouldn't have to decimate this year's squad to do it (and of course, he keeps KG and PP in the bargain).
Quote from: Mencius on February 14, 2013, 10:22:57 AMQuote from: BballTim on February 14, 2013, 10:13:03 AMQuote from: Mencius on February 14, 2013, 10:07:40 AMHaven't read the whole thread, so don't know if anybody else suggested this, but...A simple trade that could work for both teams is Rondo and Melo for Smith (no muss, no fuss). We lose nothing for this year and add a borderline all-star type. If Danny still really thinks we could make noise in the playoffs despite all our injuries, he could take the big gamble and try this, and he wouldn't have to decimate this year's squad to do it (and of course, he keeps KG and PP in the bargain). Rondo's probably the main reason Smith would want to come to Boston.True, but in a trade scenario, it really wouldn't matter what he wants. Now, keeping him beyond this year would be a different story. If it doesn't really matter what he wants then it wouldn't matter that he's interested in Boston and Atlanta would have plenty of trade partners that were probably willing to offer something other than a player that's out for the year with a knee injury.
only way I see Smith to Boston is if some 3rd team is willing to eat salary and Boston manages to get extra bodies tossed inI don't see us trading Rondo, I don't see us trading KG or Pierce, so that leaves us with just a pupu platter of Green/Bass/Lee/Terry to offer up - and it would likely take a sweetener like Sullinger to make it happenthe only reason we'd have any hope of pulling it off would be because the Hawks are getting low-balledprobably a great chance of happening in the offseason if we find a way to clear the deck of salaries via retirement parties and such
only way I see Smith to Boston at the deadline is if some 3rd team is willing to eat salary and Boston manages to get extra bodies tossed inI don't see us trading Rondo, I don't see us trading KG or Pierce, so that leaves us with just a pupu platter of Green/Bass/Lee/Terry to offer up - and it would likely take a sweetener like Sullinger to make it happenthe only reason we'd have any hope of pulling it off would be because the Hawks are getting low-balledprobably a great chance of happening in the offseason if we find a way to clear the deck of salaries via retirement parties and such - or I suppose some kind of sign-and-trade could be worked out too, but same problems as above
The Grizzlies are far enough under the luxury tax that they're willing to utilize at least part of their $7.5 million trade exception to add some perimeter help. Acquiring SG Courtney Lee, who Boston would consider flipping for some frontline help, was discussed but the Celtics aren't looking just to drop salary but add size.
Quote from: Jeff on February 14, 2013, 10:36:51 AMonly way I see Smith to Boston is if some 3rd team is willing to eat salary and Boston manages to get extra bodies tossed inI don't see us trading Rondo, I don't see us trading KG or Pierce, so that leaves us with just a pupu platter of Green/Bass/Lee/Terry to offer up - and it would likely take a sweetener like Sullinger to make it happenthe only reason we'd have any hope of pulling it off would be because the Hawks are getting low-balledprobably a great chance of happening in the offseason if we find a way to clear the deck of salaries via retirement parties and suchThe deal that I think made sense earlier in the year, and makes even more sense now that Green is playing well, and his value is higher is this:http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine/?tradeId=a4v7jb9Boston gets Smith and Stevenson (perhaps throw Livingston in as well, but he can't be traded until tomorrow)Cleveland gets GreenAtlanta gets Bass, Walton (expiring), Melo, Pick from Cleveland, Pick from Boston (or maybe even two picks from Cleveland...Green has looked very good lately)If you need, you can try to send Bass to a 4th team for another expiring contract, although Atlanta might not be too opposed to taking him as a cost controlled rotation big man.
Quote from: Chris on February 14, 2013, 10:40:02 AMQuote from: Jeff on February 14, 2013, 10:36:51 AMonly way I see Smith to Boston is if some 3rd team is willing to eat salary and Boston manages to get extra bodies tossed inI don't see us trading Rondo, I don't see us trading KG or Pierce, so that leaves us with just a pupu platter of Green/Bass/Lee/Terry to offer up - and it would likely take a sweetener like Sullinger to make it happenthe only reason we'd have any hope of pulling it off would be because the Hawks are getting low-balledprobably a great chance of happening in the offseason if we find a way to clear the deck of salaries via retirement parties and suchThe deal that I think made sense earlier in the year, and makes even more sense now that Green is playing well, and his value is higher is this:http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine/?tradeId=a4v7jb9Boston gets Smith and Stevenson (perhaps throw Livingston in as well, but he can't be traded until tomorrow)Cleveland gets GreenAtlanta gets Bass, Walton (expiring), Melo, Pick from Cleveland, Pick from Boston (or maybe even two picks from Cleveland...Green has looked very good lately)If you need, you can try to send Bass to a 4th team for another expiring contract, although Atlanta might not be too opposed to taking him as a cost controlled rotation big man.No way cleveland would give up lottery picks for Jeff Green
Quote from: Kane3387 on February 14, 2013, 09:46:08 AMQuote from: pearljammer10 on February 14, 2013, 09:43:11 AMHeres the deal I offer:http://espn.go.com/nba/trademachine?tradeId=cjwzv65They take it. Freaking awesome lets do it. They say no, then we just move on with what we got for the rest of the year. Leaves us extremely thin at the guard spot but I like a lineup of Terry, Pierce, Green, Smith, and KG. Sign a guy like Dooling, Flynn or Christmas.Your link is messed up.I do this. Atlanta seemed to really be interested in Melo around draft time. They get Bass who at least helps them reach the salary cap floor next season, a pick, and a trade exception via Lee to Memphis.http://espn.go.com/nba/trademachine?tradeId=bkw7bwaNo NBA trade machine links are working right now......this seems to happen every 2 weeks lol
Quote from: pearljammer10 on February 14, 2013, 09:43:11 AMHeres the deal I offer:http://espn.go.com/nba/trademachine?tradeId=cjwzv65They take it. Freaking awesome lets do it. They say no, then we just move on with what we got for the rest of the year. Leaves us extremely thin at the guard spot but I like a lineup of Terry, Pierce, Green, Smith, and KG. Sign a guy like Dooling, Flynn or Christmas.Your link is messed up.I do this. Atlanta seemed to really be interested in Melo around draft time. They get Bass who at least helps them reach the salary cap floor next season, a pick, and a trade exception via Lee to Memphis.http://espn.go.com/nba/trademachine?tradeId=bkw7bwa
Heres the deal I offer:http://espn.go.com/nba/trademachine?tradeId=cjwzv65They take it. Freaking awesome lets do it. They say no, then we just move on with what we got for the rest of the year. Leaves us extremely thin at the guard spot but I like a lineup of Terry, Pierce, Green, Smith, and KG. Sign a guy like Dooling, Flynn or Christmas.
Quote from: Lightskinsmurf on February 13, 2013, 11:26:18 PMYou guys are crazy if you don't want josh smith. Now if we're talking max contract then no but if he comes for a discount of course you take him.And when is the last time we've had a player of his caliber, wanting to be a Celtic, while entering their prime?
You guys are crazy if you don't want josh smith. Now if we're talking max contract then no but if he comes for a discount of course you take him.
Trying to come up with trades, that I think would be good value for Atlanta and that wouldn't severely affect Boston's title chances. I think this is the best one I could do.Bass, Lee, Sullinger, Melo, 2013 1stforSmith, StevensonAtlanta gets some nice rotation players on reasonable contracts, 2 young players, and an extra 1st. Not a great deal, but not bad and certainly better than Brooklyn's presumed offer.So Boston post trade would bePG - Bradley, TerrySG - Stevenson, TerrySF - Pierce, GreenPF - Smith, GreenC - Garnett, Wilcox, CollinsThat team is closer to a title this year and has the potential pairing of Rondo and Smith to build around going forward (with Green being a nice piece). If Smith does leave this summer, then there is a good chance PP, KG, and Terry all retire, and thus Boston would have cap space and could go into full on rebuilding.
Boston OUT: Green, Lee, Bass, FirstBoston IN: J.Smith, J.Bayless, Q.PondexterMemphis OUT: J.Bayless, Q.PondexterMemphis IN: LeeAtlanta OUT: J.SmithAtlanta IN: Green, Bass, BOS First
Quote from: AB_Celtic on February 14, 2013, 11:19:41 AMBoston OUT: Green, Lee, Bass, FirstBoston IN: J.Smith, J.Bayless, Q.PondexterMemphis OUT: J.Bayless, Q.PondexterMemphis IN: LeeAtlanta OUT: J.SmithAtlanta IN: Green, Bass, BOS FirstBig win for boston.