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Title: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: jpotter33 on August 05, 2017, 12:05:13 AM
https://www.facebook.com/balldontstopinc/videos/1391772870872428/

Man, tell me this kid doesn't have Durant 2.0 written all over him. His size, length, and how well he moves at that size is just so reminiscent of Durant. He even looks thicker and more physical than Durant already.

And the best part is: we have a legitimate shot of landing both him and one of Bagley/Ayton next summer! (Though I suspect if we do get two top-5 picks they'll be headed in a package for Anthony Davis.)
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: JHTruth on August 05, 2017, 12:12:10 AM
https://www.facebook.com/balldontstopinc/videos/1391772870872428/

Man, tell me this kid doesn't have Durant 2.0 written all over him. His size, length, and how well he moves at that size is just so reminiscent of Durant. He even looks thicker and more physical than Durant already.

And the best part is: we have a legitimate shot of landing both him and one of Bagley/Ayton next summer! (Though I suspect if we do get two top-5 picks they'll be headed in a package for Anthony Davis.)

I suspect we'd take on of him or Bagley and Doncic if the luck goes our way. Super team engaged. I suspect AD will still be untouchable for  while, it's nice to dream but we're probably building through the draft..
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Somebody on August 05, 2017, 12:24:44 AM
I see him as Reggie Lewis with a hint of Durant, which I prefer than just KD.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on August 05, 2017, 12:35:18 AM
He is huge. Very tall, big  build for his age. Very athletic shoots above the rim with ease. Sharpshooter as well can shoot from everywhere. my favorite player in this upcoming draft. We could do well with him
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: MichaelJ on August 05, 2017, 01:39:05 AM
It'll be very interesting to revisit after a year of college.  Based on his build I think he'll fill out earlier and more than Durant.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on August 05, 2017, 03:20:50 AM
https://www.facebook.com/balldontstopinc/videos/1391772870872428/

Man, tell me this kid doesn't have Durant 2.0 written all over him. His size, length, and how well he moves at that size is just so reminiscent of Durant. He even looks thicker and more physical than Durant already.

And the best part is: we have a legitimate shot of landing both him and one of Bagley/Ayton next summer! (Though I suspect if we do get two top-5 picks they'll be headed in a package for Anthony Davis.)
No way am I trading Porter + Bagley + more for Anthony Davis.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: TheSundanceKid on August 05, 2017, 05:47:10 AM
https://www.facebook.com/balldontstopinc/videos/1391772870872428/

Man, tell me this kid doesn't have Durant 2.0 written all over him. His size, length, and how well he moves at that size is just so reminiscent of Durant. He even looks thicker and more physical than Durant already.

And the best part is: we have a legitimate shot of landing both him and one of Bagley/Ayton next summer! (Though I suspect if we do get two top-5 picks they'll be headed in a package for Anthony Davis.)
No way am I trading Porter + Bagley + more for Anthony Davis.
Fans will need something to criticize Danny for next summer though!

I understand that Porter jr is a top talent but what does this video tell us? It was a Pro-Am game right? Was he playing anyone decent? Given he's going to be one of the best players in college basketball I'd hope he'd beat some guys who don't even play in the major leagues
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: CELTICSofBOSTON on August 05, 2017, 09:46:12 AM
I think Porter is going to be a lot closer to Bagley than people think.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Tr1boy on August 05, 2017, 10:10:17 AM
https://www.facebook.com/balldontstopinc/videos/1391772870872428/

Man, tell me this kid doesn't have Durant 2.0 written all over him. His size, length, and how well he moves at that size is just so reminiscent of Durant. He even looks thicker and more physical than Durant already.

And the best part is: we have a legitimate shot of landing both him and one of Bagley/Ayton next summer! (Though I suspect if we do get two top-5 picks they'll be headed in a package for Anthony Davis.)

he is no durant cmon
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: saltlover on August 05, 2017, 10:48:09 AM
https://www.facebook.com/balldontstopinc/videos/1391772870872428/

Man, tell me this kid doesn't have Durant 2.0 written all over him. His size, length, and how well he moves at that size is just so reminiscent of Durant. He even looks thicker and more physical than Durant already.

And the best part is: we have a legitimate shot of landing both him and one of Bagley/Ayton next summer! (Though I suspect if we do get two top-5 picks they'll be headed in a package for Anthony Davis.)

One of the things that makes Durant so special is his absurd wingspan to go with his skillset.  It's between 7'4" and 7'5".  He's unique, and it's a disservice to other players to make the comparison.  We get excited about how skilled Anthony Davis is, but Durant is basically the same size but with the offensive skills of elite wings.  Porter isn't small, but he's not NBA center big, which KD essentially is.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on August 05, 2017, 01:07:17 PM
https://www.facebook.com/balldontstopinc/videos/1391772870872428/

Man, tell me this kid doesn't have Durant 2.0 written all over him. His size, length, and how well he moves at that size is just so reminiscent of Durant. He even looks thicker and more physical than Durant already.

And the best part is: we have a legitimate shot of landing both him and one of Bagley/Ayton next summer! (Though I suspect if we do get two top-5 picks they'll be headed in a package for Anthony Davis.)

Porter isn't small, but he's not NBA center big, which KD essentially is.
Porter is taller than Durant. Porter is the same height as al horford, 6'10

I don't believe in Durant listed height conspiracy theories. Even if Durant is 6'11 or 7'0, porter is ridiculously big even for a wing. And his athleticism is very high.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: CELTICSofBOSTON on August 05, 2017, 01:19:06 PM
I would say Kevin Durant is both taller and longer than Porter. Probably more athletic when he was younger. He was also a better prospect.

Kevin Durant is 1 of 1.

Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on August 05, 2017, 01:22:57 PM
I would say Kevin Durant is both taller and longer than Porter. Probably more athletic when he was younger. He was also a better prospect.

Kevin Durant is 1 of 1.
kevin Durant couldn't bench press 1 rep of 180 lbs at the draft combine, so not sure what athleticism you're referring to. I don't think anyone's arguing whether durants inch taller makes a big difference. The point is many scouts see Durant in porter. Its hard not to. We would be very lucky to have him
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: clevelandceltic on August 05, 2017, 01:26:54 PM
I cant wait til people actually get to see Porter and Bagley play instead of talking in the abstract since most people dont watch HS hoops.

Porter isnt as dynamic of a scorer or a smooth as Durant but the guy can fill it up really quickly. A little stiff in the hips but shouldnt have any issues at the 4 spot.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: gouki88 on August 05, 2017, 01:29:01 PM
I would say Kevin Durant is both taller and longer than Porter. Probably more athletic when he was younger. He was also a better prospect.

Kevin Durant is 1 of 1.
kevin Durant couldn't bench press 1 rep of 180 lbs at the draft combine, so not sure what athleticism you're referring to. I don't think anyone's arguing whether durants inch taller makes a big difference. The point is many scouts see Durant in porter. Its hard not to.
I forgot athleticism was entirely dictated by how much someone can bench.

The Durant comparisons are a stretch, as of now. If Porter can follow his HS season up with an insane college year like Durant did, I'll happily eat my words. But I don't see that happening. Durant is probably a top 10 scorer of all time, due to his efficiency and versatility.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: trickybilly on August 05, 2017, 01:40:40 PM
The guy who surpasses Durant will be a robot
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 05, 2017, 02:33:40 PM
I'm not going to deny the skillset and the potential, but I think I'm one of the few, if not, the only one who thinks we SHOULD NOT target Michael Porter, Jr., and instead try to get either Mohamed Bamba, DeAndre Ayton, or both.

We have Gordon Hayward and Jayson Tatum. One is offensively capable, the other one is offensively gifted. I just see how he will fit with those two, elite skills and all.

Ayton and Bamba, on the other hand, fills a need. Horford isn't getting any younger, and both these kids could be the future of the Center position. Long, athletic, skilled, showing some semblance of a jumper that can be improved. It's something we really need, and they have the talent and the potential to be special.

My dream is to be able to draft both 7 footers, and we can roll a lineup of Hayward - Tatum - Bamba - Ayton moving forward. . .
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on August 06, 2017, 06:46:13 PM
I'm not going to deny the skillset and the potential, but I think I'm one of the few, if not, the only one who thinks we SHOULD NOT target Michael Porter, Jr., and instead try to get either Mohamed Bamba, DeAndre Ayton, or both.

We have Gordon Hayward and Jayson Tatum. One is offensively capable, the other one is offensively gifted. I just see how he will fit with those two, elite skills and all.

Ayton and Bamba, on the other hand, fills a need. Horford isn't getting any younger, and both these kids could be the future of the Center position. Long, athletic, skilled, showing some semblance of a jumper that can be improved. It's something we really need, and they have the talent and the potential to be special.

My dream is to be able to draft both 7 footers, and we can roll a lineup of Hayward - Tatum - Bamba - Ayton moving forward. . .
interesting perspective. I'm not one to draft for need but I understand the concerns around horford and the need for a prospect behind him or potential  frontcourt partner
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: chilidawg on August 06, 2017, 06:51:36 PM
I would say Kevin Durant is both taller and longer than Porter. Probably more athletic when he was younger. He was also a better prospect.

Kevin Durant is 1 of 1.
kevin Durant couldn't bench press 1 rep of 180 lbs at the draft combine, so not sure what athleticism you're referring to. I don't think anyone's arguing whether durants inch taller makes a big difference. The point is many scouts see Durant in porter. Its hard not to. We would be very lucky to have him

Clearly Durant wouldn't have made a good Offensive tackle.

That's the worst critique of a basketball player's athleticism I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: JHTruth on August 06, 2017, 07:17:02 PM
I'm not going to deny the skillset and the potential, but I think I'm one of the few, if not, the only one who thinks we SHOULD NOT target Michael Porter, Jr., and instead try to get either Mohamed Bamba, DeAndre Ayton, or both.

We have Gordon Hayward and Jayson Tatum. One is offensively capable, the other one is offensively gifted. I just see how he will fit with those two, elite skills and all.

Ayton and Bamba, on the other hand, fills a need. Horford isn't getting any younger, and both these kids could be the future of the Center position. Long, athletic, skilled, showing some semblance of a jumper that can be improved. It's something we really need, and they have the talent and the potential to be special.

My dream is to be able to draft both 7 footers, and we can roll a lineup of Hayward - Tatum - Bamba - Ayton moving forward. . .

Hayward and Tatum are 3s. Porter and Bagley are 4s. Zizic is prob the C of the future..
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 06, 2017, 08:21:08 PM
I'm not going to deny the skillset and the potential, but I think I'm one of the few, if not, the only one who thinks we SHOULD NOT target Michael Porter, Jr., and instead try to get either Mohamed Bamba, DeAndre Ayton, or both.

We have Gordon Hayward and Jayson Tatum. One is offensively capable, the other one is offensively gifted. I just see how he will fit with those two, elite skills and all.

Ayton and Bamba, on the other hand, fills a need. Horford isn't getting any younger, and both these kids could be the future of the Center position. Long, athletic, skilled, showing some semblance of a jumper that can be improved. It's something we really need, and they have the talent and the potential to be special.

My dream is to be able to draft both 7 footers, and we can roll a lineup of Hayward - Tatum - Bamba - Ayton moving forward. . .

Hayward and Tatum are 3s. Porter and Bagley are 4s. Zizic is prob the C of the future..

I thinkn Hayward can slot in at the SG just fine.

And while I do understand that neither Bamba nor Ayton are listed as PF's, their quickness for their size, and their potential to be able to make shots from distance makes it fine to slot either of them to either big spots.

You practically re-create the Twin Towers with those two if you get them both, with Hayward and with Tatum, and they could impact the game without being a heavy usage player. Bagley, as talented as he is, might need more touches, and with Tatum and Hayward's game predicated on touches, he might not be a good fit.

If you just get one of them, you still get an excellent prospect that could be a piece that fits moving forward.
Title: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: KG Living Legend on August 17, 2017, 01:48:43 AM
 He plays against Steph Curry, Fultz, Dennis Smith Jr, nobody can stop him, slow him down, nothing. He's Jayson Tatum, but bigger, stronger and taller.

 
.https://youtu.be/wstV056l380
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: A Future of Stevens on August 17, 2017, 08:06:27 AM
https://youtu.be/wstV056l380

I think that's the video you wanted. Yours is Curry smoking kids at some shooting drill.
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: JBcat on August 17, 2017, 08:26:57 AM
https://youtu.be/wstV056l380

I think that's the video you wanted. Yours is Curry smoking kids at some shooting drill.

Everyone guarding him in this video seem to have the height of a PG.  lol
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: playdream on August 17, 2017, 10:35:35 AM
https://youtu.be/wstV056l380

I think that's the video you wanted. Yours is Curry smoking kids at some shooting drill.

Everyone guarding him in this video seem to have the height of a PG.  lol
They are all guards... if he can do that to KD/Kawhi then i will be impressed
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: smokeablount on August 17, 2017, 10:47:17 AM
https://youtu.be/wstV056l380

I think that's the video you wanted. Yours is Curry smoking kids at some shooting drill.

Everyone guarding him in this video seem to have the height of a PG.  lol
They are all guards... if he can do that to KD/Kawhi then i will be impressed

True. But still, this is the most impressive clip I've seen of him yet. His fine motor skills and size as a wing or CBS PF look unicorn-like. He could be the highest upside #2 pick since KD, with similar skills.
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: KG Living Legend on August 17, 2017, 11:41:14 AM
https://youtu.be/wstV056l380

I think that's the video you wanted. Yours is Curry smoking kids at some shooting drill.




 TP Future. Thanks.
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: coffee425 on August 18, 2017, 10:24:23 AM
https://youtu.be/wstV056l380

I think that's the video you wanted. Yours is Curry smoking kids at some shooting drill.

Everyone guarding him in this video seem to have the height of a PG.  lol

doesnt matter to me. if he's able to use quickness against these point guards, he'll roast the 3s and 4s in the NBA.
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: loco_91 on August 19, 2017, 05:00:40 PM
I mean, it's a highlight reel. Of course he doesn't miss.
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: bdm860 on August 19, 2017, 05:28:28 PM
He looks like RJ Hunter and Lonzo Ball had a kid.
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: KG Living Legend on August 19, 2017, 05:32:55 PM
I mean, it's a highlight reel. Of course he doesn't miss.



 He won the tournament two times in a row. It does show him missing shots, but he barely missed anything. It's extremely impressive.
 
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: A Future of Stevens on August 19, 2017, 05:35:24 PM
https://youtu.be/wstV056l380

I think that's the video you wanted. Yours is Curry smoking kids at some shooting drill.




 TP Future. Thanks.

Np buddy.
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: nebist on August 19, 2017, 06:55:45 PM
That reverse spin move he liked to use was a travel every time.
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on August 19, 2017, 07:14:28 PM
https://youtu.be/wstV056l380

I think that's the video you wanted. Yours is Curry smoking kids at some shooting drill.




 TP Future. Thanks.

Np buddy.

You're welcome, guys.
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: LilRip on August 19, 2017, 11:15:20 PM
He looks really good. Yeah it's a highlight video but I don't think Jaylen Brown could do that now.
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: CelticsElite on August 19, 2017, 11:26:54 PM
He looks really good. Yeah it's a highlight video but I don't think Jaylen Brown could do that now.
since that was porter vs curry,

this is brown vs curry:  https://youtu.be/7UOzhJhACOY
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: TheChiefRobertPairsh on August 20, 2017, 06:41:41 AM
He looks really good. Yeah it's a highlight video but I don't think Jaylen Brown could do that now.
since that was porter vs curry,

this is brown vs curry:  https://youtu.be/7UOzhJhACOY
that was some incredible defense before the fake porter defiantly couldnt do that lol
Title: Re: Mike Porter JR doesn't miss At One on One
Post by: CelticsElite on September 06, 2017, 04:29:53 PM
^lol


Porters length, athleticism and abilitt to shoot at a high clip is nice and hope we still have a shot at getting him with that laker pick
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: GreenShooter on February 12, 2018, 11:52:57 AM
Here's to hoping he goes back for his sophomore season (for selfish reasons only) but if he plays this year I think there is very little chance he comes back.

https://sports.yahoo.com/michael-porter-jr-says-hell-play-missouri-season-doctors-clear-205314126.html
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: GreenShooter on February 15, 2018, 11:56:37 AM
Looks like he still hasn't been cleared to play by doctors. Not sure how much of an impact he'll have after missing all of the season so far, other than training camp. There are 5 games left and Mizzou is not a lock to make the tournament, but do have an 18-8 record, so it will be interesting to see if he declares for the draft.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/mizzou-football/mizzou-coach-cuonzo-martin-comments-rumors-michael-porter-jr-s-potential-return/
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: GreenShooter on February 26, 2018, 09:58:58 AM
Looks like he may be back. Mizzou might have to win about 3 more games to get into the tourney. Would like to see this kid play a little but as we all know there are advisers and agent around talking this and that.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/missouri-freshman-michael-porter-jr-cleared-for-all-basketball-activities/

Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: footey on February 26, 2018, 10:37:39 AM
Kid looks amazing. Ainge loves him I would think.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Eddie20 on March 03, 2018, 08:38:52 AM
Is likely to play today. He's the quintessential Stevens player.

I wonder if we make a Winslow type offer to nab him in the draft. Again, he's just such a perfect player for our system and having Tatum, Brown, and Porter for the next 10 years would be unreal. Plus, given his back issues and the amount of tier talent in this draft, he's likely to go no higher than 4. This makes him for much more attainable.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: tazzmaniac on March 03, 2018, 09:40:34 AM
Looks like he may be back. Mizzou might have to win about 3 more games to get into the tourney. Would like to see this kid play a little but as we all know there are advisers and agent around talking this and that.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/missouri-freshman-michael-porter-jr-cleared-for-all-basketball-activities/
Missouri is 19-11 overall and 9=8 (6th) in the SEC.  If they win one more game, they are likely in.  If Porter does play and looks pretty good, I think it is a lock. The committee is going to give Porter's season long injury and return significant weight when assessing the bubble teams.   
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: footey on March 03, 2018, 12:40:56 PM
Not playing today per ESPN.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on March 03, 2018, 12:43:56 PM
Sucks that the Lakers Pick won't convey.

Would have LOVED any of Ayton, Porter or Bagley.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: libermaniac on March 03, 2018, 12:49:02 PM
Sucks that the Lakers Pick won't convey.

Would have LOVED any of Ayton, Porter or Bagley.
PROBABLY won’t convey. I’m saying there’s a chance.  ;)
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on March 03, 2018, 12:50:43 PM
Is likely to play today. He's the quintessential Stevens player.

I wonder if we make a Winslow type offer to nab him in the draft. Again, he's just such a perfect player for our system and having Tatum, Brown, and Porter for the next 10 years would be unreal. Plus, given his back issues and the amount of tier talent in this draft, he's likely to go no higher than 4. This makes him for much more attainable.
There's almost no chance we trade for him, and there is absolutely no chance that we trade for him while keeping Brown and Tatum. We're trying to win a championship, not make a "Winslow type offer" for a guy who has played 2 minutes in college. Only shot we get him is the Lakers pick.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on March 03, 2018, 01:13:12 PM
Sucks that the Lakers Pick won't convey.

Would have LOVED any of Ayton, Porter or Bagley.
I hate when people say this. Unless you think the Lakers are a lock for making the playoffs (Spoiler: They aren't), then the pick will always have a chance of conveying, until we find out for sure during the lottery. Teams jump into the top 3 all the time.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: tazzmaniac on March 03, 2018, 01:20:24 PM
Sucks that the Lakers Pick won't convey.

Would have LOVED any of Ayton, Porter or Bagley.
I hate when people say this. Unless you think the Lakers are a lock for making the playoffs (Spoiler: They aren't), then the pick will always have a chance of conveying, until we find out for sure during the lottery. Teams jump into the top 3 all the time.
Not from the 10th spot or later.  Also if it lands #1, the Sixers keep the pick.  If the Lakers finish  10th worse, we'd have a 2.9% chance of getting the 2nd or 3rd pick and the Sixers would have a 1.1% chance of getting the #1 pick.   
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Eddie20 on March 03, 2018, 01:49:46 PM
Is likely to play today. He's the quintessential Stevens player.

I wonder if we make a Winslow type offer to nab him in the draft. Again, he's just such a perfect player for our system and having Tatum, Brown, and Porter for the next 10 years would be unreal. Plus, given his back issues and the amount of tier talent in this draft, he's likely to go no higher than 4. This makes him for much more attainable.

There's almost no chance we trade for him, and there is absolutely no chance that we trade for him while keeping Brown and Tatum. We're trying to win a championship, not make a "Winslow type offer" for a guy who has played 2 minutes in college. Only shot we get him is the Lakers pick.

Contradictory statements. But yeah, I was referring to using the Lakers pick, among other picks.

These definitive "no way" statements are kind of odd, though. If Ainge values a player, he'll aggressively target him.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on March 03, 2018, 02:21:48 PM
Is likely to play today. He's the quintessential Stevens player.

I wonder if we make a Winslow type offer to nab him in the draft. Again, he's just such a perfect player for our system and having Tatum, Brown, and Porter for the next 10 years would be unreal. Plus, given his back issues and the amount of tier talent in this draft, he's likely to go no higher than 4. This makes him for much more attainable.

There's almost no chance we trade for him, and there is absolutely no chance that we trade for him while keeping Brown and Tatum. We're trying to win a championship, not make a "Winslow type offer" for a guy who has played 2 minutes in college. Only shot we get him is the Lakers pick.

Contradictory statements. But yeah, I was referring to using the Lakers pick, among other picks.

These definitive "no way" statements are kind of odd, though. If Ainge values a player, he'll aggressively target him.
Lol no they're not. I said we won't be able to trade for him without giving up Tatum or Brown, which is true. We don't have the assets unless you're looking to give up Tatum or Brown (Or Kyrie I guess), which makes no sense.

So then I said our only real chance at getting him is the Lakers pick, which is also true. If it conveys, then we would certainly have a shot at taking him, and not have to trade for him.

And saying we would have to use the Lakers pick PLUS other picks to get him doesn't make sense either. He will most likely be available if the Lakers pick conveys, so we would just draft him.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on March 03, 2018, 02:28:48 PM
Sucks that the Lakers Pick won't convey.

Would have LOVED any of Ayton, Porter or Bagley.
I hate when people say this. Unless you think the Lakers are a lock for making the playoffs (Spoiler: They aren't), then the pick will always have a chance of conveying, until we find out for sure during the lottery. Teams jump into the top 3 all the time.
Not from the 10th spot or later.  Also if it lands #1, the Sixers keep the pick.  If the Lakers finish  10th worse, we'd have a 2.9% chance of getting the 2nd or 3rd pick and the Sixers would have a 1.1% chance of getting the #1 pick.
Nope it still has a chance of conveying, even from the 10th spot. Unless the Lakers make the playoffs, we will have a shot at the pick until the lottery. That's simply a fact. And even if our chance don't increase (And they very well might if the Lakers go back to losing), 3% is still a very real chance. Like I said, teams have hit from a lot worse.

So don't say the pick won't convey like it's a fact. I know a lot of you are still going to be watching the lottery when the time comes, even if we only have 3% chance of getting the pick.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Eddie20 on March 03, 2018, 02:33:45 PM
Is likely to play today. He's the quintessential Stevens player.

I wonder if we make a Winslow type offer to nab him in the draft. Again, he's just such a perfect player for our system and having Tatum, Brown, and Porter for the next 10 years would be unreal. Plus, given his back issues and the amount of tier talent in this draft, he's likely to go no higher than 4. This makes him for much more attainable.

There's almost no chance we trade for him, and there is absolutely no chance that we trade for him while keeping Brown and Tatum. We're trying to win a championship, not make a "Winslow type offer" for a guy who has played 2 minutes in college. Only shot we get him is the Lakers pick.

Contradictory statements. But yeah, I was referring to using the Lakers pick, among other picks.

These definitive "no way" statements are kind of odd, though. If Ainge values a player, he'll aggressively target him.
Lol no they're not. I said we won't be able to trade for him without giving up Tatum or Brown, which is true. We don't have the assets unless you're looking to give up Tatum or Brown (Or Kyrie I guess), which makes no sense.

So then I said our only real chance at getting him is the Lakers pick, which is also true. If it conveys, then we would certainly have a shot at taking him, and not have to trade for him.

And saying we would have to use the Lakers pick PLUS other picks to get him doesn't make sense either. He will most likely be available if the Lakers pick conveys, so we would just draft him.

When you said the Lakers pick, I was under the assumption that you grouped it as the LAL/SAC pick.

There are a few scenarios in which we could realistically get him. I mean you have Ayton, Doncic, and Bagley over him and then there is Bamba, Jackson, and Young. Given his injury, it isn't farfetched to believe that those 3 players could jump him as well. In fact, ESPN has him ranked #6 at the moment. 
http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/21307077/nba-draft-rankings-espn-top-100-prospects-2018

So say that draft comes and Ainge really likes him, he's not medically flagged, and he's available 6, as ESPN projects. If you're a really bad team would it be that much of a stretch to think that an offer of Sac 19, Memphis 19 (or whenever it conveys), and Boston's own pick in 2018 (in order for the receiving team to get back a pick in the same draft) would be enticing? Especially if your medical staff have concerns on his medicals.

Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 03, 2018, 03:09:51 PM
Will most likely be playing elsewhere than Boston.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: nickagneta on March 03, 2018, 03:10:23 PM
Is likely to play today. He's the quintessential Stevens player.

I wonder if we make a Winslow type offer to nab him in the draft. Again, he's just such a perfect player for our system and having Tatum, Brown, and Porter for the next 10 years would be unreal. Plus, given his back issues and the amount of tier talent in this draft, he's likely to go no higher than 4. This makes him for much more attainable.

There's almost no chance we trade for him, and there is absolutely no chance that we trade for him while keeping Brown and Tatum. We're trying to win a championship, not make a "Winslow type offer" for a guy who has played 2 minutes in college. Only shot we get him is the Lakers pick.

Contradictory statements. But yeah, I was referring to using the Lakers pick, among other picks.

These definitive "no way" statements are kind of odd, though. If Ainge values a player, he'll aggressively target him.
Lol no they're not. I said we won't be able to trade for him without giving up Tatum or Brown, which is true. We don't have the assets unless you're looking to give up Tatum or Brown (Or Kyrie I guess), which makes no sense.

So then I said our only real chance at getting him is the Lakers pick, which is also true. If it conveys, then we would certainly have a shot at taking him, and not have to trade for him.

And saying we would have to use the Lakers pick PLUS other picks to get him doesn't make sense either. He will most likely be available if the Lakers pick conveys, so we would just draft him.

When you said the Lakers pick, I was under the assumption that you grouped it as the LAL/SAC pick.

There are a few scenarios in which we could realistically get him. I mean you have Ayton, Doncic, and Bagley over him and then there is Bamba, Jackson, and Young. Given his injury, it isn't farfetched to believe that those 3 players could jump him as well. In fact, ESPN has him ranked #6 at the moment. 
http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/21307077/nba-draft-rankings-espn-top-100-prospects-2018

So say that draft comes and Ainge really likes him, he's not medically flagged, and he's available 6, as ESPN projects. If you're a really bad team would it be that much of a stretch to think that an offer of Sac 19, Memphis 19 (or whenever it conveys), and Boston's own pick in 2018 (in order for the receiving team to get back a pick in the same draft) would be enticing? Especially if your medical staff have concerns on his medicals.
I think most GMs would want a lot more since there's a strong possibility that Sac pick could be in the 20's.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on March 03, 2018, 03:33:08 PM
Is likely to play today. He's the quintessential Stevens player.

I wonder if we make a Winslow type offer to nab him in the draft. Again, he's just such a perfect player for our system and having Tatum, Brown, and Porter for the next 10 years would be unreal. Plus, given his back issues and the amount of tier talent in this draft, he's likely to go no higher than 4. This makes him for much more attainable.

There's almost no chance we trade for him, and there is absolutely no chance that we trade for him while keeping Brown and Tatum. We're trying to win a championship, not make a "Winslow type offer" for a guy who has played 2 minutes in college. Only shot we get him is the Lakers pick.

Contradictory statements. But yeah, I was referring to using the Lakers pick, among other picks.

These definitive "no way" statements are kind of odd, though. If Ainge values a player, he'll aggressively target him.
Lol no they're not. I said we won't be able to trade for him without giving up Tatum or Brown, which is true. We don't have the assets unless you're looking to give up Tatum or Brown (Or Kyrie I guess), which makes no sense.

So then I said our only real chance at getting him is the Lakers pick, which is also true. If it conveys, then we would certainly have a shot at taking him, and not have to trade for him.

And saying we would have to use the Lakers pick PLUS other picks to get him doesn't make sense either. He will most likely be available if the Lakers pick conveys, so we would just draft him.

When you said the Lakers pick, I was under the assumption that you grouped it as the LAL/SAC pick.

There are a few scenarios in which we could realistically get him. I mean you have Ayton, Doncic, and Bagley over him and then there is Bamba, Jackson, and Young. Given his injury, it isn't farfetched to believe that those 3 players could jump him as well. In fact, ESPN has him ranked #6 at the moment. 
http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/21307077/nba-draft-rankings-espn-top-100-prospects-2018

So say that draft comes and Ainge really likes him, he's not medically flagged, and he's available 6, as ESPN projects. If you're a really bad team would it be that much of a stretch to think that an offer of Sac 19, Memphis 19 (or whenever it conveys), and Boston's own pick in 2018 (in order for the receiving team to get back a pick in the same draft) would be enticing? Especially if your medical staff have concerns on his medicals.
Ok. I don't anymore, and certainly not in this context, when you're talking about trading for a guy who we could just draft with the Lakers pick if it conveyed, and if it didn't, then you would call it the Kings pick.

And as for if that would be enough to get Porter, I don't think it would be. There's value in that package, but there is no top pick or young prospect. It's a lot of quantity, and not a lot of quality. I don't think many teams would trade a top pick in this draft for that.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Moranis on March 07, 2018, 04:00:21 PM
Porter targeting a return of Thursday in the SEC conference tournament.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on March 07, 2018, 04:10:24 PM
I know everyone had high hopes for this pick this season but if we don't get it, it's not the end of the world. I know a lot of people think this is THE YEAR OF THE BIG but we still have a lot of ways to get what we need if we miss out on these kids, don't fret, DA is the safe bet!
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: green_bballers13 on March 07, 2018, 06:05:25 PM
It seems like he's a top 6 pick at this moment, but we're not sure if he's healthy until he plays a couple of games against legit competition. Teams are going to want to see him at the Draft Combine as there will be limited tape. I'd want to see explosive moves from him before investing a top pick on him.
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on March 07, 2018, 07:34:07 PM
This guy has no weaknesses in his game. Sharpshooter who can play 2 ways, lots of offensive moves
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Eddie20 on March 07, 2018, 09:21:40 PM
This guy has no weaknesses in his game. Sharpshooter who can play 2 ways, lots of offensive moves

Actually there are. I love him as a prospect, but there concerns on his athleticism and ability to defend on the perimeter. There was also talk that he didn't face very tough competition in high school (even by high school standards).
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: gouki88 on March 07, 2018, 09:22:41 PM
This guy has no weaknesses in his game. Sharpshooter who can play 2 ways, lots of offensive moves

Actually there are. I love him as a prospect, but there concerns on his athleticism and ability to defend on the perimeter. There was also talk that he didn't face very tough competition in high school (even by high school standards).
Yeah, there are definite weaknesses in his game. No prospect has no weaknesses
Title: Re: Michael Porter Jr. Watch Thread
Post by: Tr1boy on June 14, 2018, 01:06:29 PM
Porter Jr. had to cancel a workout due to a hip strain

Situation is looking closer to Giles situation at this rate

If I was picking in the top 10 team or even a lotto...and don't have a 2nd pick to burn,  I'm staying away from Porter Jr