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Offline Tr1boy

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Pure guesses on some of these, since we haven't seen the rookies games on the big stage yet

Here are my list

Shooting (3pt, FT)
1. Nesmith
2. Tatum
3. Walker

Ball handling
1. Pritchard
2. Tatum
3. Walker

Rebounding
1. Thompson
2. Tatum
3. Brown

Shot blocker
1. Timelord
2. Theis
3. Brown

Finish at the rim (acrobatic/crafty)
1. Brown
2. Teague
3. Langford

Passing
1. Teague
2. Pritchard
3. Smart

Defense (versatility)
1.  Smart
2.  Brown
3.  Grant Williams

Clutch shot maker
1.  ?
2.  ?
3.  ?


Re: Current Celtics roster, rank your top three in these categories
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2020, 08:52:41 PM »

Offline Csfan1984

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Right now just skill not how they will finish I'd say

Shooting (3pt, FT)
1. Pritchard
2. Tatum
3. Nesmith

Ball handling
1. Pritchard
2. Walker
3. Teague

Rebounding
1. Thompson
2. Tatum
3. Theis

Shot blocker
1. TT
2. Theis
3. Tatum

Finish at the rim (acrobatic/crafty)
1. Brown
2. Tatum
3. Walker

Passing
1. Smart
2. Teague
3. Brown

Defense (versatility)
1.  Smart
2.  Brown
3.  Tatum

Clutch shot maker
1.  Brown
2.  Tatum
3.  Walker

Hustle
1. Smart
2. Pritchard
3. GW

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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2020, 10:54:37 AM »

Offline Tr1boy

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Right now just skill not how they will finish I'd say

Shooting (3pt, FT)
1. Pritchard
2. Tatum
3. Nesmith

Ball handling
1. Pritchard
2. Walker
3. Teague

Clutch shot maker
1.  Brown
2.  Tatum
3.  Walker

Hustle
1. Smart
2. Pritchard
3. GW

really you think Pritchard will be the best shooter on the team?  I wouldn't be totally surprised if that was the case. He has deep range

The clutch shot maker list is interesting. Prior to last season starting, folks probably would have Kemba at the top of the list. And he is still that guy for me (excuse the performance last playoffs due to injury)..... but his injury is concerning

Brown and Tatum while solid, are not dependable closers for me.   We see both catch fire and play well when the team plays well or back to back buckets type games.  But when the team is down 12-15/momentum against the Celtics.... I don't remember many comebacks single handedly ignited by Brown/Tatum (6 to 8 pts in a row).  Or game winning type buckets

I have seen some strong comeback performances from Nesmith at the college level and in a hurry due to his 3 pt shooting.   If he is solid out of the gates, we should see him have a few cracks to be the hero....  I'm hoping Robert Horry like

Re: Current Celtics roster, rank your top three in these categories
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2020, 01:31:50 PM »

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OK, lot to consider, but I'll give it a shot.

Shooting (3pt, FT)
1. Brown
2. Tatum
3. Nesmith

Ball handling
1. Pritchard
2. Brown
3. Smart

Rebounding
1. Thompson
2. Tatum
3. Theis

Shot blocker
1. Timelord
2. Theis
3. Tatum

Finish at the rim (acrobatic/crafty)
1. Brown
2. Timelord
3. Langford

Passing
1. Teague
2. Pritchard
3. Smart

Defense (versatility)
1.  Brown
2.  Smart
3.  Langford

Clutch shot maker
1.  Brown
2.  Tatum
3.  Nesmith
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2020, 01:37:06 PM »

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OK, lot to consider, but I'll give it a shot.

Shooting (3pt, FT)
1. Brown
2. Tatum
3. Nesmith

Ball handling
1. Pritchard
2. Brown
3. Smart

Rebounding
1. Thompson
2. Tatum
3. Theis

Shot blocker
1. Timelord
2. Theis
3. Tatum

Finish at the rim (acrobatic/crafty)
1. Brown
2. Timelord
3. Langford

Passing
1. Teague
2. Pritchard
3. Smart

Defense (versatility)
1.  Brown
2.  Smart
3.  Langford

Clutch shot maker
1.  Brown
2.  Tatum
3.  Nesmith

interesting to see you have Brown higher than Tatum in terms of shooting

Brown has really improved since his 1st year

Just wish he would be more automatic on those open 3s in the playoffs ...

Re: Current Celtics roster, rank your top three in these categories
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2020, 02:15:36 PM »

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I have Pritchard 1 for shooting based on what he has done and what people say. Since HS he has been a shooter and looked it with USA team and college. People talk about him hitting crazy shots in practice and pick up games.

Wish we could get info from Tatum and Edwards on their opinions on Pritchard and maybe on who is the best.

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2020, 02:39:51 PM »

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I have Pritchard 1 for shooting based on what he has done and what people say. Since HS he has been a shooter and looked it with USA team and college. People talk about him hitting crazy shots in practice and pick up games.

Wish we could get info from Tatum and Edwards on their opinions on Pritchard and maybe on who is the best.

But higher than Nesmith?  Nesmith has height/size adv. 

The pnr defenders and overall defenders are much better all around at the nba level.  Pritchard will first need to find a way to create space/find space through screens etc

I feel like Nesmith is advanced in this aspect of the game already. Plus squaring up quickly for the shot.  Not only shooting mechanics

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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2020, 07:15:32 PM »

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I have Pritchard 1 for shooting based on what he has done and what people say. Since HS he has been a shooter and looked it with USA team and college. People talk about him hitting crazy shots in practice and pick up games.

Wish we could get info from Tatum and Edwards on their opinions on Pritchard and maybe on who is the best.

But higher than Nesmith?  Nesmith has height/size adv. 

The pnr defenders and overall defenders are much better all around at the nba level.  Pritchard will first need to find a way to create space/find space through screens etc

I feel like Nesmith is advanced in this aspect of the game already. Plus squaring up quickly for the shot.  Not only shooting mechanics
Well the USA stuff was good for Pritchard. If he draws on that experience of being an outlet shooter and opportunist rather than his lead dog play in HS and College he will be fine. Against good stacked teams with NBA prospects like Arizona, Pritchard manged to still fill it up. But as you said the Pros are different. My actual worry isn't shooting it is if he is too confident dribbling and passing. If he doesn't get calls or stick to the plays he will become a turnover problem. Saw that happen way too often in college games. He can't do that in the Pros.

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TR - I hate seeing a Top 3 Defender list without Tristan Thompson on it. Wasn't interior defense one of the main reasons for acquiring him ?
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2020, 11:09:25 PM »

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TR - I hate seeing a Top 3 Defender list without Tristan Thompson on it. Wasn't interior defense one of the main reasons for acquiring him ?

true.  Playoff Thompson is a wild man on D.  Looks kind of possessed

anticipating to see this

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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2020, 11:55:32 PM »

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grant semi and smart are the three best defenders on this team.

also, despite my negativity,  i'm most excited about grant williams this season.  dude could end up being our 3rd most important player.   little bit of draymond feel to that guy. 

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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2020, 12:32:59 AM »

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Given the responses this seems like one of those glorify the unproven rookies thread.
So why not:
3pt %
1.Nesmith
2.Pritchard
3.Carsen

Ball handling
1.Pritchard
2.Langford
3.Carsen

Rebound
1.Tristan
2.Timelord
3.Grant Williams

Finish at the rim
1.Langford
2.Teague
3.Brown

Passing
1.Pritchard
2.G Williams
3.Tatum

Defense
1.Smart
2.Pritchard
3.Thompson

BB IQ
1.Pritchard
2.G Williams
3.Theiss

It’s absolutely amazing how our all stars and other top 40 nba players are worse in these categories compared to rookies and players with limited experience lol

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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2020, 12:49:26 AM »

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Given the responses this seems like one of those glorify the unproven rookies thread.
So why not:
3pt %
1.Nesmith
2.Pritchard
3.Carsen

Ball handling
1.Pritchard
2.Langford
3.Carsen

Rebound
1.Tristan
2.Timelord
3.Grant Williams

Finish at the rim
1.Langford
2.Teague
3.Brown

Passing
1.Pritchard
2.G Williams
3.Tatum

Defense
1.Smart
2.Pritchard
3.Thompson

BB IQ
1.Pritchard
2.G Williams
3.Theiss

It’s absolutely amazing how our all stars and other top 40 nba players are worse in these categories compared to rookies and players with limited experience lol

No clutch shot maker list?

Pritchard cant be your 2nd best defender...he wasnt even elite level in college.  He works hard though and is physical. Kind of like a VanVleet. But not Lowry level from what I have seen/read

I mean if this kid was that good on D end plus shooting, ball handling... how in heavens did he drop to 26th?

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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2020, 01:53:54 AM »

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Shooting (3pt, FT)
1. Tatum
2. Nesmith
3. Kemba

Ball handling
1. Kemba
2. Tatum
3. Teague

Rebounding
1. Thompson
2. R. Williams
3. Theis

Shot blocker
1. TACO!!
2. R. Williams
3. Theis

Finish at the rim (acrobatic/crafty)
1. Tatum
2. Kemba
3. Brown

Passing
1. Teague
2. Kemba
3. Tatum (I predict a big step up here based on playoff sample)

Defense
1.  Theis
2.  Tatum
3.  Smart

Clutch shot maker
1.  Tatum
2.  Kemba
3.  Smart

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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2020, 06:04:05 AM »

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Here are the actual stats from last season.

Shooting - 3P%
1. Nesmith 52.2 on 8.2 attempts per game (albeit on college level)
2. Pritchard 41.5 on 6.8 attempts per game (again, on college level)
3. Tatum 40.3 on 7.1 attempts per game
4. Brown 38.2 on 5.9 attempts per game
5. Kemba 38.1 on 8.4 attempts per game. He was also taking more difficult shots than Brown (off the dribble).
6. Semi 37.8 on 1.8 attempts per game
7. Teague 36.8 on 2 attempts per game
8. Smart 34.7 on 6.6 attempts per game
9. Theis 33.3 on 1.5 attemprs per game

Shooting - FT%
1. Waters 100 (albeit on just 8 attempts)
2. Semi 87.5 (=28/32)
3. Teague 87.3 (=172/197)
4. Kemba 86.4 (=209/242)
5. Smart 83.6 (=127/152)
6. Nesmith 82.5 (=52/63)
7. Pritchard 82.1 (=115/140)
8. Tatum 81.2 (=254/313)

Ball handling (no stats here, just my opinion)
1. Pritchard
2. Kemba
3. Waters

Total Rebound%
1. Tacko 24.3
2. Thompson 18.6
3. Timelord 17.7
4. Theis 14.6
5. Tatum 10.9
6. Javonte Green 10.6
7. Brown 10.1
8. Grant 9.1
9. Nesmith 8.0 (albeit on college level)
10. Semi 7.7

BLK%
1. Tacko 11.2
2. Timelord 8.4
3. Theis 5.0
4. Grant 3.2
5. Nesmith 2.6 (albeit on college level)
6. Thompson 2.5
7. Tatum 2.3
8. Romeo 2.0

FG% less than 5 feet from the basket (closest thing I could find to finishing at the rim)
1. Tacko 81.8
2. Timelord 76
3. Theis 69.4
4. Grant 66.2
5. Brown 61.1
6. Javonte Green 60.3
7. Thompson 57.7

AST/TO
1. Smart 2.83
2. Teague 2.66
3. Kemba 2.29
4. Theis 2.06
5. Pritchard 2.04 (albeit on college level)

Defensive versatility = ability to defend multiple positions (no stats here either, just my opinion)
1.  Smart
2.  Grant
3.  Theis

eFG% in the clutch
1. Romeo 150 (on limited attempts)
2. Grant 100 (on limited attempts)
3. Timelord 100 (on limited attempts)
4. Semi 75 (on limited attempts)
5. Tatum 56.8
6. Brown 54.4
7. Theis 54.3
8. Kemba 47.8
9. Smart 42.5

The league average in eFG% last season was 52.9 (=not just in the clutch, throughout the whole regular season).
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