I don't know if any sign and trade is going to happen with Charlotte, but it's clear that Ainge blew it by not taking Indiana's sign and trade for Turner and McDermott.
That's WEEI's position, and I agree with it.
From what (little) we know, Indiana wasn't offering as much money as Charlotte. Maybe Gordon was willing to go there for less, but it seems that Ainge determined that Turner was not valuable enough. I think there's good reason to think that he was correct in that assessment. Indiana wouldn't give up Warren or Oladipo, so they couldn't get a deal done.
We don't know yet if Ainge will get a TPE from Charlotte, but it seems very likely that a TPE could be more useful than Turner and McDermott.
Honestly I'd rather have Tristan Thompson on a 2 year / $19 million deal than Myles Turner for 4 years at $18 million per.
The problem with this logic, and what a lot here fail to recognize is, we lost Hayward’s cap space by Ainge not making the trade. Despite how you feel about turner that’s an asset we would have got in return for Hayward instead of nothing.
We still could have signed Thompson, or used that money to sign somebody else. We could have flipped turner for picks or another player.
Instead Ainge stubbornness got us nothing.
More importantly, and as I said before, it’s an extremely bad look for Ainge from a PR standpoint for not letting Hayward go home.
Right now the national narrative is Ainge overplayed his hand, Hayward would have taken the hometown discount for the pacers and Ainge blew it for him. That’s not a good look for Ainge, I’ll tell you this much if I played in the NBA he is not a GM I’d want to do business with given his track record.. and I’m a diehard Celtics fan.
Massive amount of assumptions and other things wrong here.
We didn't lose Hayward's salary slot yet as Ainge is still in negotiations with Charlotte to make a TPE for that slot. With the TPE we could trade a person into that slot at any time this season or next off-season.
In the meantime, as was discussed here before the off-season, Hayward walking means the team's access to the full MLE and the BAE and not just having the taxpayer MLE.
That allowed Ainge to sign Thompson and Teague. If Danny accepted Indy's offer and Hayward agreed to go there(another thing that is wrong about your post, but we will get to that) the Celtics would have had Turner, Mcdermott and the taxpayer MLE. Given Turner's contract and the quality of player Mcdermott is, it's easy to see why people would rather have Thompson and Teague.
If the trade was made, there was no way to get Thompson unless he was willing to sign a two year $10 million deal for the taxpayer MLE, which is really doubtful. He probably gave up some money signing just the regular MLE. I can't see him giving up another $9 million to sign here.
The entire national narrative is just that, a narrative. It's most likely not what happened. What people aren't considering is it takes Hayward to agree to a contract, as well as two teams agreeing to a trade. Reports are three teams had 4 years $100 million on the table for Hayward: the C's, Pacers and Hornets with most likely different down side guarantees.
While Ainge and Pritchard were negotiating a sign and trade Charlotte then upped the ante and went to 4 years $120 million, all guaranteed. When neither Boston or Indy said they would match, and this is important, Hayward took the money and large role and went to Charlotte, a place everyone knows he likes because he had already agreed to go there years ago as a restricted free agent but Utah matched.
The narrative that Ainge screwed his team is pretty silly, really. Ainge knew all the scenarios that could have played out this season and that where Hayward ended up was really all up to Hayward, in the end, so Danny came up with solutions for every scenario.
That Hayward could leave and the team could end up with Thompson, Teague and a large TPE while getting under the tax to reset the repeater tax, is an excellent lemonade given the lemons he was given. That the Celtics got under the tax is a massive positive for this team going forward and something people aren't talking enough about. People should take this into consideration when looking at judging this off-season.
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