Celticsblog fantasy bball keeper league (Draft Thread)

[The Walker Wiggle]

I'm definitely against adding 3PM if we're trying to stay true to last year's scoring. We shouldn't just emphasis volume shooters and call it a night. I do agree with Roy that we're better off with an odd number of categories. Consider dropping FT%? Since in CD5's system a player had to shoot at or below 50% to hurt himself. Or maybe FTM since two FTs where worth 0.2 less than a FG.

Wdleehi's probably struck on the solution, except I'm a somewhat daunted by the idea.

I'm still in favor of an old fashioned Points, FG%, FT%, 3PM, REB, AST, STL, BLK, TOs model.

[Roy Hobbs]

I'm definitely against adding 3PM if we're trying to stay true to last year's system. We shouldn't just emphasis volume shooters and call it a night. I do agree with Roy that we're better off with an odd number of scoring categories. Consider dropping FT%? Since in CD5's system a player had to shoot at or below 50% to hurt himself. Or maybe FTM since two FTs where worth 0.2 less than a FG.

Wdleehi's probably struck on the solution, except I'm a somewhat daunted by the idea.

I'm still in favor of an old fashioned Points, FG%, FT%, 3PM, REB, AST, STL, BLK, TOs model.

Well, 3PTM *was* a part of our system last year.

A 3PT FG was worth 3.7 points in our league (3 points + 1.2 FGM - 0.5FGA).  That was the most efficient scoring option you could have.

If people want to go with 10 categories, I guess that's fine, but I think odd numbers works better.

I disagree strongly with any league that doesn't reward for FGM, though.  It's totally counter to our last league setup.

[Roy Hobbs]

mkogav is in, but won't be able to participate until 7/26, as he is out of the country.  He indicated a preference to keep the points based league.

[mkogav2]

Hi, This is mkogav. I am out of the country and unable to log in with my regular ID.

Anyway, I am in and hope we stay with the point system, modified if needed, but not h2h.

I'll be back online around the 25th.

Talk to u all then.

- The Champ

[Edgar]

Hi, This is mkogav. I am out of the country and unable to log in with my regular ID.

Anyway, I am in and hope we stay with the point system, modified if needed, but not h2h.

I'll be back online around the 25th.

Talk to u all then.

- The Champ

fun u came just to rub in our face your victory
youre  mine this year..with no game limits

P.S. Nice to hear from u sr.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Well, 3PTM *was* a part of our system last year.

A 3PT FG was worth 3.7 points in our league (3 points + 1.2 FGM - 0.5FGA).  That was the most efficient scoring option you could have.

If people want to go with 10 categories, I guess that's fine, but I think odd numbers works better.

I disagree strongly with any league that doesn't reward for FGM, though.  It's totally counter to our last league setup.

I understand the 3PM is an efficient scoring option, it was still undervalued in our system. And, for example, those players who make 3s and do little else end up a lot more useful.

I was going to post some player rankings to show how far apart any of the discussed H2H styles would be from our original setup, but I think we're just as far apart and I don't want to grate.

And then, last year's winner doesn't even want to move to H2H and his opinion should carry some weight... Ah well, it's a good group of guys and I look forward to it, whatever format.

[Celtic Fan Forever]

I will most likely not participate in the fantasy league this year. For some reason I just couldn't get into fantasy basketball as much as I could with baseball and football. It just seems so unrealistic to me, with someone like Shawn Marion being a top 3 player and Dwight Howard not even being top 10. If there was a realistic system, I'd think about joining.

[Celtic Fan Forever]

Just a quick follow up post:

Last summer I set something up involving a fantasy draft and trades with all teams. It worked pretty well but it had its flaws. If anyone would be interested in something like that again (with a fixed system of course) I think that would be pretty interesting.

[Lucky17]

Just a quick follow up post:

Last summer I set something up involving a fantasy draft and trades with all teams. It worked pretty well but it had its flaws. If anyone would be interested in something like that again (with a fixed system of course) I think that would be pretty interesting.

The mock-GM thing? That was tons of fun. I think there will be plenty of interest in it again this year.

[Lucky17]

OK, trying to pick up steam again on this. I think it'd be great if we could have all participants confirmed by the end of the month, so we can proceed with a draft, etc. in August.

Here's who's in and who's out, by my best guess:

1. mkogav	In
2. Y'all Hate	In
3. Champkind	In
4. The Walker Wiggle	In
5. Celtic Fan Forever	Out
6. Lucky17	In
7. Indeed Proceed	In
8. AllAboutTheGreen	In?
9. Edgar	In
10. jgod213	In
11. Smiggity	In
12. Birdman	In
13. Green17	Out
14. BostonFan23	Out
15. iRONLiON	In
16. RIPRED	In
17. LarryBird17	In
18. Jayhovaone	??	Fri Nov 30 9:37pm EST
19. Blake	In
20. Roy Hobbs	In

And our tentative scoring criteria for the league (still open to debate), which is head-to-head:

FG%, FGM, FT%, FTM, 3PTM, PTS, REB, AST, ST, BLK, TO

[ChampKind]

Here's who's in and who's out, by my best guess:

17. LarryBird17	??	Tue Dec 11 7:15am EST
18. Jayhovaone	??	Fri Nov 30 9:37pm EST

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Just leave those guys out.  They hardly participated after the draft.

Also, for the record, I'm against a head to head league, I like the points system here because its the only points league that I play in...although, I wouldn't be opposed to setting up a secondary league so we could have both.  Maybe a little experiment to see how the placing changes from h2h to points.  Everyone has the same teams in 2 different leagues...but it would be a Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. to set up.

[Roy Hobbs]

LarryBird17 says he wants to be in, but the final say on inactive managers of course is Lucky's.

[yall hate]

I have no problem with any of the 'inactive' members being back, but I think the league should get a warning about inactivity this year.  Since there are so many people who want to be in the league, there is no reason giving a spot to someone who doesnt participate for months at a time, whatever the reason is.

[Lucky17]

I have no problem with any of the 'inactive' members being back, but I think the league should get a warning about inactivity this year.  Since there are so many people who want to be in the league, there is no reason giving a spot to someone who doesnt participate for months at a time, whatever the reason is.

Agreed. I'll be a bit more vigilant this year, knowing that there are plenty waiting in the wings to step in and take over an inactive team.

[ChampKind]

I have no problem with any of the 'inactive' members being back, but I think the league should get a warning about inactivity this year.  Since there are so many people who want to be in the league, there is no reason giving a spot to someone who doesnt participate for months at a time, whatever the reason is.

Agreed. I'll be a bit more vigilant this year, knowing that there are plenty waiting in the wings to step in and take over an inactive team.

That's fine, but jayhovaone...the guy pleaded to get added to the league despite not having many posts, basically promised not to be an absentee manager, and then ignored the league after November.  I don't mean to be a jerk, but I'd rather give someone new a chance then deal with someone who can't be counted on.

Also, Lucky, thanks for running the league - you're doing a great job with it and keeping diplomacy flowing.