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Re: When did Delonte become so popular??
« Reply #90 on: September 03, 2010, 03:37:51 PM »

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Got it. The last thing I want is to make a classy lady like you cry  :)
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Re: When did Delonte become so popular??
« Reply #91 on: September 03, 2010, 03:51:20 PM »

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Maybe I'm crazy but when Delonte was sent packing to Seattle it seemed that a lot of people on this board were extremely happy.

I know there were a few people on here who rooted for him on the Cavs and always wanted him back, but I always felt there were more anti-Wests rather than supporters. I feel like I'm the only one that thinks signing a mediocre, undersized, mentally unstable, guard is a bad idea... Am I alone on this?? I don't get it.

You are crazy. We were all sad to see Delonte get packaged for Ray and the draft pick that turned into Big Baby.

However, Ray's arrival certainly cast a shadow over Delonte's departure.

Nobody rooted for him on the Cavs, but we all wished him well...big difference.

Secretly we all still want to see Ryan Gomes and Al Jefferson return as well.

Delonte is an above mediocre bench player, he's certainly not undersized, and mentally unstable could be a bit of a stretch.

There are enough vets to make sure Delonte keeps his head on right, and if things don't work out then it's a non-guaranteed deal anyways.

Given that it's a non-guaranteed deal please don't forget how Delonte now has incentive to earn that contract. Good work Danny!

I don't think you should be calling people crazy on here if they differ in opinion, and I especially don't think you should try to speak on behalf of everyone.

Case in point - I was happy Delonte was in that trade.  I wasn't ecstatic like I was that Wally was in the trade, but I was happy that we were replacing him.

Re: When did Delonte become so popular??
« Reply #92 on: September 03, 2010, 04:06:08 PM »

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I don't think you should be calling people crazy on here if they differ in opinion, and I especially don't think you should try to speak on behalf of everyone.

I think when somebody says "maybe I'm crazy" and the next poster says "you're crazy", it's meant to be light-hearted, rather than a personal attack.

But yes, you're right:  not everybody was a Delonte fan at the time; he had some very vocal critics.  I would say, though, that the majority of people were Delonte fans, although some wanted to see Rondo get more minutes.


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Re: When did Delonte become so popular??
« Reply #93 on: September 03, 2010, 05:19:33 PM »

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Maybe I'm crazy but when Delonte was sent packing to Seattle it seemed that a lot of people on this board were extremely happy.

I know there were a few people on here who rooted for him on the Cavs and always wanted him back, but I always felt there were more anti-Wests rather than supporters. I feel like I'm the only one that thinks signing a mediocre, undersized, mentally unstable, guard is a bad idea... Am I alone on this?? I don't get it.

You are crazy. We were all sad to see Delonte get packaged for Ray and the draft pick that turned into Big Baby.

However, Ray's arrival certainly cast a shadow over Delonte's departure.

Nobody rooted for him on the Cavs, but we all wished him well...big difference.

Secretly we all still want to see Ryan Gomes and Al Jefferson return as well.

Delonte is an above mediocre bench player, he's certainly not undersized, and mentally unstable could be a bit of a stretch.

There are enough vets to make sure Delonte keeps his head on right, and if things don't work out then it's a non-guaranteed deal anyways.

Given that it's a non-guaranteed deal please don't forget how Delonte now has incentive to earn that contract. Good work Danny!
Why are you speaking for everyone? I rooted for him when he was on the Cavs.

I kinda agree on being sad about West leaving, though I was happy to see him go for Ray because we got Ray, got rid of Wally's contract, and kept Rondo. That was definitely a net gain.

Re: When did Delonte become so popular??
« Reply #94 on: September 03, 2010, 06:17:28 PM »

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I was only so-so on him when he was hear. Used more of as a PG, it was obvious he was out of place. He had his moments on the face break, but he was always getting banged up from his style of play - others saw hustle, I saw reckless. He was freaking hilarious though. When it came out that they managed to move him and keep Rondo, I was psyched - and that's something we can all agree on.

But - a funny thing happened on his way through CLE - his three point shooting, ability to handle both guard spots, and D won me over. In retrospect, he would have been an excellent part of the team the last three years.

Here's an ALT history - let's say Tony Allen doesn't blow out his knee and looks great all year in 06-07 season. Throws up a 17 or 18 PER and plays good D. So Danny is able to trade Tony Allen to SEA and keep Delonte. Now in 08 the role of Eddie House is played by Delonte West. He'd be Ray's and Rondo's backup a tough D, good shooter, hustler, that unlike house can advance the ball against Lindsey Hunter. He wins a few games off the bench. I could see him morphing into a top 6th man on the 09 and 10 squads.

I don't see how this is true. Delonte was embarrassingly bad when it came to bringing the ball up against pressure. More often than not Doc had to employ Ricky Davis during those years to handle the ball anytime we went up against pressure because Delonte got ripped so often. Then we'd see those "hustle" plays Delonte made famous to get back into the play and end up crashing into the front row trying to prevent a breakaway layup. And his handle is not much better now. I'm actually glad we have Nate for that as he is a superior ballhandler to Delonte.
I also think Nate is a far superior ball handler.

Nevertheless, Delonte has been productive throughout his career. He reminds me of Matt Barnes -- a mediocre player who does enough that contenders like him as a role player, but not good enough to get a big contract.
Delonte is much better than Matt Barnes. Matt Barnes has one elite skill (rebounding) and is below average at everything else.

Delonte is pretty average in all the areas of the game that you'd want out player. He's below average for a starter I suppose, but he's a lot more plug and play than Barnes or Tony Allen.

?? Huh?Are we talking about the same Matt Barnes? The 3-pt shooting SF that played for Orlando last year and Phoenix before that and had his breakout season in Don Nelson's run and gun Golden St team as a streaky shooting 3-pt specialist. He's never averaged more than the 5.5 rebs per game he did last year. Not sure that qualifies that as an elite skill.
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Re: When did Delonte become so popular??
« Reply #95 on: September 03, 2010, 06:17:53 PM »

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I don't think you should be calling people crazy on here if they differ in opinion, and I especially don't think you should try to speak on behalf of everyone.

I think when somebody says "maybe I'm crazy" and the next poster says "you're crazy", it's meant to be light-hearted, rather than a personal attack.

But yes, you're right:  not everybody was a Delonte fan at the time; he had some very vocal critics.  I would say, though, that the majority of people were Delonte fans, although some wanted to see Rondo get more minutes.

There is a big difference between having thing about Danny and Doc's love of Combo guards and  "hating" a player. Any ill will I recall was directed at Doc and Danny not Delonte. I am not wild about bringing him back; but given the circumstances Delonte is the one with the most to loose here and if anything I will be backing him even stronger simply because of that. I was against bringing him in; but support him 100% now because of who he is and what he has been through. Not a rational argument and perhaps that is what you are getting at in this thread; but, I hope there is still room for irrational homerism when it comes to the Walter Mccarthy and Delonte Wests of this world.

Re: When did Delonte become so popular??
« Reply #96 on: September 04, 2010, 02:45:21 PM »

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Re: When did Delonte become so popular??
« Reply #97 on: September 04, 2010, 03:33:04 PM »

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So we're clear, I have zero interest in ever seeing Ryan Gomes in a Celtics uniform, and until Al Jefferson learns how to defend, I'll pass on him, too.

So, don't lump me in with the pathological love crowd. I'm not a member. And I'm proud not to be.
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Re: When did Delonte become so popular??
« Reply #98 on: September 04, 2010, 04:19:33 PM »

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So we're clear, I have zero interest in ever seeing Ryan Gomes in a Celtics uniform, and until Al Jefferson learns how to defend, I'll pass on him, too.

So, don't lump me in with the pathological love crowd. I'm not a member. And I'm proud not to be.

Relax, Coach.  Your identity is well established on the board.  Fortunately, ole curmudgeons are welcome around these parts...

I, for one, agree with you that we shouldn't by trying to reassemble the 24-win club.  We should definitely can Paul, Doc, Danny, and Perk at the very first opportunity. :-\

Coach, we once had a team of young guys that became solid role players.  Of course, a team of young future role players with one star (PP) is going to win about, oh, 24 games.  That doesn't mean a team with multiple stars that needs solid role players should turn those guys down, especially now that they have more experience and are in their primes.  If we'd take journeyman role players with experience on other teams to fill our backup role player spot, why--please--why is it not okay to sign a player that played here before?

I generally agree, often (whether I post so or not) with many of your insights and appreciate your presence on the board, but this is one that I just don't get...the "24 win alumni association" and all that...

Re: When did Delonte become so popular??
« Reply #99 on: September 05, 2010, 06:56:53 PM »

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I guess I don't know Delonte much, but his fomer teammates liked him. I didn't have a mix tape vid, but thought this helped me know what we're getting along with his game. I wonder if he'll implore the same fashion/motivational sense upon the Celtics, check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj3zCdUrH_s&feature=player_embedded
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