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Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #510 on: May 21, 2019, 01:50:26 PM »

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I am ok with these picks

Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #511 on: May 21, 2019, 02:05:27 PM »

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I am ok with these picks

A little risky but its no time to play it safe imo

Washington is a safe pick. Morris/Landry/Milsap potential

Bol bol is a tower and skilled. But needs a pro training regimen.  As long as his medical is checked out/cleared


Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #512 on: May 22, 2019, 10:19:48 AM »

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Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #513 on: May 22, 2019, 10:25:10 AM »

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-Eric Paschall highlights - Poor man Draymond Green but with better leaping ability
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFJsV3RYokw


-Jontay Porter highlights -  like another bol bol - injury concerns. But talented big man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AECUHKkWrXk&t=128s

- Josh Reaves - one of the top defensive guards this past season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB9GqryVjkA

Paschall is only 6-6...

so is Draymond Green

Yeah, I guess so, I thought Green was taller. Draymond has a couple of inches on him in wingspan but they are really close.... Paschall outside shot looks better than Green's shot but I'm not so sure about the passing...

won't be easy to even draft a role player off the bench past lotto picks

I think Paschall  (even though a senior) has the body, maturity, nba skills to be able to help right away.  I also like PJ Washington.   

either + Semi, could help makeup the loss of Morris (don't think he will be resigned)
Interested in what you think of Grant Williams from Tennessee. He's similar to Paschall in that he's a strong bodied swing, but he's a bit taller (6'7" in shoes) and he has a 6'10" wingspan, weighing in at 240lbs. He's a good defender, can score in the low and high post, can pass and can shoot the 3. I reckon he could be an immediate impact player.

Another Tennessee guy I like is Jordan Bone. Physical freak of a guard. https://twitter.com/LouisWBIR/status/1129149415221018624
Williams isn't much of a 3 pt shooter. Most of what he made were totally open, with plenty of time to shoot. IOW, shots he won't get in the league. He's also not athletic enough to defend anyone on the perimeter. He is exactly what he looks to be, a very good, but undersized, post player. I don't see him being much more than an end of bencher, but I hope he surprises me.

Bone is a super athlete. Elite quickness and handle, but he's never been anything more than a streaky shooter. Still, where you'd take him, every player will have flaws.
I definitely hear you, but I think your concerns are overblown. Open threes are definitely a big part of today's game. Davis Bertans shot 32.2% of his 3's with the nearest defender 4-6 feet away. CP3 and Gerald Green both shot 28% of their threes with defenders at that distance. If guys like that can get open looks so can he.
He's also about as athletic as Mook, so I think given the right matchup he can work on the perimeter. He's also incredibly strong and broad.

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/05/13/draft-notes-grant-williams-player-interest-golden-state/
I know this article is talking about Golden State having an interest in him, but I think it's interesting showing how his offensive role could be similar to Draymond's. He's slower than in-shape Dray, but he has a much better touch from all levels and from the FT line.
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Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #514 on: May 22, 2019, 10:29:34 AM »

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My draft prediction revision #2

14 - Bol Bol

20 - PJ Washington

22 - Jalen Lecque


Lecque reminds me of a similar situation - Avery Bradley pre draft.  I think Danny takes the risk on the "high school" player that could be a future top 10 pick

PJ Washington going to last at 20? Seems his pedigree (KY) and athleticism will get him picked well before then. I'd take him at 14 if available (and doubt Bol will be around at that spot).

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« Reply #515 on: May 22, 2019, 10:31:43 AM »

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P.J. Washington is a Trey Lyles clone
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #516 on: May 22, 2019, 10:34:06 AM »

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-Eric Paschall highlights - Poor man Draymond Green but with better leaping ability
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFJsV3RYokw


-Jontay Porter highlights -  like another bol bol - injury concerns. But talented big man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AECUHKkWrXk&t=128s

- Josh Reaves - one of the top defensive guards this past season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB9GqryVjkA

Paschall is only 6-6...

so is Draymond Green

Yeah, I guess so, I thought Green was taller. Draymond has a couple of inches on him in wingspan but they are really close.... Paschall outside shot looks better than Green's shot but I'm not so sure about the passing...

won't be easy to even draft a role player off the bench past lotto picks

I think Paschall  (even though a senior) has the body, maturity, nba skills to be able to help right away.  I also like PJ Washington.   

either + Semi, could help makeup the loss of Morris (don't think he will be resigned)
Interested in what you think of Grant Williams from Tennessee. He's similar to Paschall in that he's a strong bodied swing, but he's a bit taller (6'7" in shoes) and he has a 6'10" wingspan, weighing in at 240lbs. He's a good defender, can score in the low and high post, can pass and can shoot the 3. I reckon he could be an immediate impact player.

Another Tennessee guy I like is Jordan Bone. Physical freak of a guard. https://twitter.com/LouisWBIR/status/1129149415221018624
Williams isn't much of a 3 pt shooter. Most of what he made were totally open, with plenty of time to shoot. IOW, shots he won't get in the league. He's also not athletic enough to defend anyone on the perimeter. He is exactly what he looks to be, a very good, but undersized, post player. I don't see him being much more than an end of bencher, but I hope he surprises me.

Bone is a super athlete. Elite quickness and handle, but he's never been anything more than a streaky shooter. Still, where you'd take him, every player will have flaws.
I definitely hear you, but I think your concerns are overblown. Open threes are definitely a big part of today's game. Davis Bertans shot 32.2% of his 3's with the nearest defender 4-6 feet away. CP3 and Gerald Green both shot 28% of their threes with defenders at that distance. If guys like that can get open looks so can he.
He's also about as athletic as Mook, so I think given the right matchup he can work on the perimeter. He's also incredibly strong and broad.

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/05/13/draft-notes-grant-williams-player-interest-golden-state/
I know this article is talking about Golden State having an interest in him, but I think it's interesting showing how his offensive role could be similar to Draymond's. He's slower than in-shape Dray, but he has a much better touch from all levels and from the FT line.

tbh don't know much about Williams but he has two or three things going against him , right off the bat

short for a PF,  wingspan is about average and also lacks lift

Maybe he can turn into a Marcus Morris, David West if all goes well


Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #517 on: May 22, 2019, 10:38:13 AM »

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My draft prediction revision #2

14 - Bol Bol

20 - PJ Washington

22 - Jalen Lecque


Lecque reminds me of a similar situation - Avery Bradley pre draft.  I think Danny takes the risk on the "high school" player that could be a future top 10 pick

PJ Washington going to last at 20? Seems his pedigree (KY) and athleticism will get him picked well before then. I'd take him at 14 if available (and doubt Bol will be around at that spot).

so you think Bol Bol will be already drafted prior to 14?

I can see this

Washington at 14 is kind of iffy imo.   At best could replace Marcus Morris, but I don't see much higher ceiling than that. 

Its too bad Washington doesn't have Isaiah Roby "quick twitch"

Because such player I would gladly choose at #14

Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #518 on: May 22, 2019, 10:40:05 AM »

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-Eric Paschall highlights - Poor man Draymond Green but with better leaping ability
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFJsV3RYokw


-Jontay Porter highlights -  like another bol bol - injury concerns. But talented big man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AECUHKkWrXk&t=128s

- Josh Reaves - one of the top defensive guards this past season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB9GqryVjkA

Paschall is only 6-6...

so is Draymond Green

Yeah, I guess so, I thought Green was taller. Draymond has a couple of inches on him in wingspan but they are really close.... Paschall outside shot looks better than Green's shot but I'm not so sure about the passing...

won't be easy to even draft a role player off the bench past lotto picks

I think Paschall  (even though a senior) has the body, maturity, nba skills to be able to help right away.  I also like PJ Washington.   

either + Semi, could help makeup the loss of Morris (don't think he will be resigned)
Interested in what you think of Grant Williams from Tennessee. He's similar to Paschall in that he's a strong bodied swing, but he's a bit taller (6'7" in shoes) and he has a 6'10" wingspan, weighing in at 240lbs. He's a good defender, can score in the low and high post, can pass and can shoot the 3. I reckon he could be an immediate impact player.

Another Tennessee guy I like is Jordan Bone. Physical freak of a guard. https://twitter.com/LouisWBIR/status/1129149415221018624
Williams isn't much of a 3 pt shooter. Most of what he made were totally open, with plenty of time to shoot. IOW, shots he won't get in the league. He's also not athletic enough to defend anyone on the perimeter. He is exactly what he looks to be, a very good, but undersized, post player. I don't see him being much more than an end of bencher, but I hope he surprises me.

Bone is a super athlete. Elite quickness and handle, but he's never been anything more than a streaky shooter. Still, where you'd take him, every player will have flaws.
I definitely hear you, but I think your concerns are overblown. Open threes are definitely a big part of today's game. Davis Bertans shot 32.2% of his 3's with the nearest defender 4-6 feet away. CP3 and Gerald Green both shot 28% of their threes with defenders at that distance. If guys like that can get open looks so can he.
He's also about as athletic as Mook, so I think given the right matchup he can work on the perimeter. He's also incredibly strong and broad.

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/05/13/draft-notes-grant-williams-player-interest-golden-state/
I know this article is talking about Golden State having an interest in him, but I think it's interesting showing how his offensive role could be similar to Draymond's. He's slower than in-shape Dray, but he has a much better touch from all levels and from the FT line.

tbh don't know much about Williams but he has two or three things going against him , right off the bat

short for a PF,  wingspan is about average and also lacks lift

Maybe he can turn into a Marcus Morris, David West if all goes well
You're definitely not wrong, his height and wingspan is a limitation. However I think he can turn out into a bigger stronger version of Jae Crowder. They had very similar peaks in college, although Williams was on a slightly better team.
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Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #519 on: May 22, 2019, 10:41:42 AM »

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Unfortunately I think Jalen Lecque stock will keep improving as we get closer to the draft

and Danny might have to bite the bullet and take him at #14

who knows, if one of the teams that gave him a promise already is the Celtics
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Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #520 on: May 22, 2019, 11:37:43 AM »

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Count me out on Bol Bol. 

Taller Channing Frye with major injury red flags ... not interested.



Right now the names I like best are Brandon Clarke, Grant Williams, Daniel Gafford, Bruno Fernando, and Shamorie Ponds.

I think frontcourt depth is what's on offer in this draft beyond the top 5-10. 



Mainly I'm hoping we don't end up with another James Young.  I'm not really interested in more of Danny's "headstrong combo guard" picks, either.  Terry Rozier was enough for a few years, I think.
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Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #521 on: May 22, 2019, 11:40:05 AM »

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Unfortunately I think Jalen Lecque stock will keep improving as we get closer to the draft

and Danny might have to bite the bullet and take him at #14

who knows, if one of the teams that gave him a promise already is the Celtics
Highly doubt he'll be picked in the first round. Might even be available at #51.
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Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #522 on: May 22, 2019, 11:42:59 AM »

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Does anyone follow Dime Drop on Youtube?

Very analyst, and great breakdowns of draft prospects. Probably one of my favorites.
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Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #523 on: May 22, 2019, 11:44:29 AM »

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Unfortunately I think Jalen Lecque stock will keep improving as we get closer to the draft

and Danny might have to bite the bullet and take him at #14

who knows, if one of the teams that gave him a promise already is the Celtics
Highly doubt he'll be picked in the first round. Might even be available at #51.

ummm no

Lecque has college teams lined up for him and is projected to be a lottery pick next season.... if he chose this route

6'4 PG with 6'8 wingspan.  43 inch max vertical.  Plus is no stiff in the skills department.   Also considered an involved defender

No way he drops to 51

Re: Celtic Picks - 2019 draft
« Reply #524 on: May 22, 2019, 11:48:23 AM »

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Does anyone follow Dime Drop on Youtube?

Very analyst, and great breakdowns of draft prospects. Probably one of my favorites.
Yeah, love his vids. He's the one that started my souring on Bol Bol
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
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