where has this idea come from that Gortat is some sort of star?
Sullinger is only going to get better and better...now im not saying we can NEVER trade him. but trading a guy with sullys potential(even if its to be a trade chip for a star in the future) for a role-player like Gortat??
im sure we all regret how the C's traded Joe johnson/Chauncey billups for what at the time were "help for now"
JJ yes, Chauncey never.
I like Sully but would want to keep him if we're getting Gortat or Varejao.
That's funny considering Chauncey had a better career.
Billups also bounced around to 3 other teams before he finally put it together in Detroit.
Joe Johnson's also got quite a bit of career left. I'd rank them as similar level players, though Chauncey obviously has had a lot more team success.
I'll give you similar as far as the grand scheme of things, but I still think Chauncey has been better. Better defender, better passer, better shooter, better at drawing fouls, much better leader, much better in end of game situations when it really counts.
Pretty equal scorers, although it's worth mentioning Johnson has never reached 56% TS for a season, something Chauncey has done 8 times, with 5 of those being over 60%. Johnson is better in isolation, whereas Billups is a bit more versatile. He's better at getting others involved and making his teammates better.
That's a whole lot of "better" and not much to be said for the other way around. And this completely ignores the most important part, winning. I consider Johnson an extremely underrated passer, defender, post-up player, hell, player period. But even if you're saying he's on the same level, it's ridiculous that anybody would go back and keep Johnson but "never" Billups.