I want Hanley Ramirez

[wiley]

I want Hanley Ramirez and I want him now.  I don't care what it costs us.  I want him playing next to Pedroia in the NEXT game.  I can't wait.  Get him now Theo.  NOW.

This is my first Red Sox post, so please forgive my trade attempt deficiencies:

Josh Beckett, Lugo, and a young pitching stud for Hanley Ramirez.

There's no trade I'd refuse, however....

[Roy Hobbs]

There's no trade I'd refuse, however....

Haha?  None?

Youks, Pedroia, Lester for Hanley

What about that one? 

[KCattheStripe]

Josh Beckett, Lugo, and a young pitching stud for Hanley Ramirez.

So basically a trade back?

[MattG12]

You would give up Beckett... and another young pitcher?

I think I'd rather have a great pitching staff all around than a great group of hitters...

Current Boston Red Sox vs. Current New York Yankees.
Pitching wins.

[crownsy]

I want Hanley Ramirez and I want him now.  I don't care what it costs us.  I want him playing next to Pedroia in the NEXT game.  I can't wait.  Get him now Theo.  NOW.

This is my first Red Sox post, so please forgive my trade attempt deficiencies:

Josh Beckett, Lugo, and a young pitching stud for Hanley Ramirez.

There's no trade I'd refuse, however....

I wouldn't give them beckett back, he's pretty clutch.

I'd give them a prospect or three around the trade deadline to get him back with us though.


Stepping back, that may have been the only trade i remember where even though the outgoing  sox prospect (hanley) lived up to his potential and became a star, yet i wouldn't undo the trade that got us beckett and lowell for anything.

A rare win-win trade for both teams in baseball.

[wiley]

There's no trade I'd refuse, however....

Haha?  None?

Youks, Pedroia, Lester for Hanley

What about that one? 

No thanks   But I'm obsessed with our infield being Lowell (huge Lowell fan so I wouldn't undo the trade that was made), Ramirez, Pedroia, Youkilis.

[wiley]

You would give up Beckett... and another young pitcher?

I think I'd rather have a great pitching staff all around than a great group of hitters...

Current Boston Red Sox vs. Current New York Yankees.
Pitching wins.

Yeah, I'd give up Beckett for him.  Obviously expert could talk me down from Beckett plus best pitching prospect, but Beckett plus slightly less than god-like prospect, yes. 

[Brendan]

Sox can afford to do something like Positional Prospect, 1 Starter (not sure if the marlins would want anyone besides Lester who is probably untouchable), 1 Pitching prospect, plus our Lowrie.

I always wished we could have kept Hanley in that deal, and given two other guys. Youk, Hanley, Pedroia would have been awesome.

[Big_Matt34]

Hanley is a terrible defensive SS and will eventually move to CF, if we were to trade for him id hope they get to play CF. Id also happily give up Ellsbury in any package for Hanley, by giving him up you would be able to hold on to one of Buchholz or Lars Anderson because the Marlins would demand both of them at the very least if we didnt include Ellsbury.

I'm not sure if the Marlins would need Ellsbury with Maybin as their future CF but with that huge park maybe they'd move one of them to LF or RF. Id do a package of Ellsbury/Bowden/Lars/Yamaico Navarro or something like that. I think the Marlins would prefer Lars to Buchholz because they really need a slugging 1B since they traded Jacobs and have Ross Gload there now, they also have a bunch of young, talented pitchers already. Of course a deal like this is more likely over the off-season since Hanley has yet to play CF and would need time to learn like when BJ Upton made the move.

[crownsy]

You would give up Beckett... and another young pitcher?

I think I'd rather have a great pitching staff all around than a great group of hitters...

Current Boston Red Sox vs. Current New York Yankees.
Pitching wins.

Yeah, I'd give up Beckett for him.  Obviously expert could talk me down from Beckett plus best pitching prospect, but Beckett plus slightly less than god-like prospect, yes. 

Why would you give up a dominate ace for hitting though?

that goes against all baseball logic.

[Bankshot]

Terrible defensive shortstop.  No thanks.  Did you see him against the Red Sox?  Not a Fenway shortstop imo.  Seems like a dumb player.

[MBz]

You would give up Beckett... and another young pitcher?

I think I'd rather have a great pitching staff all around than a great group of hitters...

Current Boston Red Sox vs. Current New York Yankees.
Pitching wins.

Yeah, I'd give up Beckett for him.  Obviously expert could talk me down from Beckett plus best pitching prospect, but Beckett plus slightly less than god-like prospect, yes. 

Why would you give up a dominate ace for hitting though?

that goes against all baseball logic.

Though I wouldn't do the trade unless Ramirez was going to be made a center fielder, but how dominating has Beckett really been as a Red Sox?  Sure in the 07 playoffs he was great, but other than that he hasn't been dominating by any means.  His career numbers are 96 and 65.  He's had one good year with the Sox so far. 2 average ones, and this one he's been great lately(minus last start), but he put some clunkers up too.  I don't think Beckett is in the dominating tier of pitchers, he is not at the Santana, Sabathia level.

[crownsy]

Terrible defensive shortstop.  No thanks.  Did you see him against the Red Sox?  Not a Fenway shortstop imo.  Seems like a dumb player.

why does he have to play short?

we have a glaring hole at DH available.

[jambr380]

You would give up Beckett... and another young pitcher?

I think I'd rather have a great pitching staff all around than a great group of hitters...

Current Boston Red Sox vs. Current New York Yankees.
Pitching wins.

Yeah, I'd give up Beckett for him.  Obviously expert could talk me down from Beckett plus best pitching prospect, but Beckett plus slightly less than god-like prospect, yes. 

Why would you give up a dominate ace for hitting though?

that goes against all baseball logic.

Though I wouldn't do the trade unless Ramirez was going to be made a center fielder, but how dominating has Beckett really been as a Red Sox?  Sure in the 07 playoffs he was great, but other than that he hasn't been dominating by any means.  His career numbers are 96 and 65.  He's had one good year with the Sox so far. 2 average ones, and this one he's been great lately(minus last start), but he put some clunkers up too.  I don't think Beckett is in the dominating tier of pitchers, he is not at the Santana, Sabathia level.

I definitely think he is at the Sabathia level- as he should have won the Cy Young award in 08. I will take a clutch playoff performer over a regular season performer anyday (Beckett has basically been both). He has the whole Curt Schilling thing going on, which is awesome- since we are basically in the playoffs every year anyway.

Tim Lincecum and Santana are probably better than Beckett, but that's about it- and what have they done in the playoffs?

As for Hanley, that would be freakin' awesome, but I don't see it happening anytime soon...

[Rondo2287]

I think this is one of the worst Ideas I have seen on this blog in a long time.  He is a terrible defensive shortstop which is our teams biggest weakness.  You are also talking about trading away a proven pitcher, who is far better than SABATHIA, BTW.... a guy that has won in the playoffs and already produced us a ring, and then you wanna trade more prospects?  regardless of the fact that one of our top five prospects is a shortstop and we are currently paying Lowrie and Green next to nothing to play the position..   This just makes no sense.