With whom can we trade up to get a top 5 pick for the 2015 draft?

[MetroGlobe]

Would Philly give up Embiid or Noel if they land the #1 or #2 pick?  If so, would we want either of them?

I'd trade one 1st rounder and Sullinger for Noel, or two 1st rounders and Sullinger for Embiid.

[Fafnir]

Would Philly give up Embiid or Noel if they land the #1 or #2 pick?  If so, would we want either of them?

I'd trade one 1st rounder and Sullinger for Noel, or two 1st rounders and Sullinger for Embiid.

I doubt it, I think they'd just draft another big man and see who develops and how well.

You need more than two quality big men to win in this league typically.

[CFAN38]

I see them as players of completely different caliber.

Okafor - Tim Duncan - can't miss
Towns - Derrick Favors
WCS - Tyson Chandler

I'd sell the farm for Okafor.

Okafor is closer to jefferson than duncan. Average impact on the defensive. He doesnt seem interested in playing tough physical defense imo

I like harrell better. Not as skilled but a force and unpleasent to play against

Are you saying you prefer Harrell over Okafor?

If so that's just crazy, not to be disrespectful but Okafor is a once in a generation big man. His feel for the game is the best I have seen out of any big man in college since Duncan and he is only a freshamn. He may never be an elite defender but he will be the best post scorer in the NBA for the next 10-12 years. That kid is a 18pt+ 8rb+ as a rookie.

[HomerSapien]

This thread is a minimum of 3 months too early because of all the roster flux, injuries, good/bad performances, etc. To come but I'll bite since I love draft discussion.

If we somehow end up with a top 5 pick (unlikely), I could see Phily as a trade partner. Mudiay seems like a fit for Phily given that they have Noel and Embiid already. I could see them drafting BPA at 1 or 2 and then trading down to the spot Mudiay goes in exchange for more assets.

Otherwise, I think we are picking in the 6-12 range. The guy I really want to get a good look at between now and April is Myles Turner. He seems the most likely high potential 7 footer to fall to our pick range and I think we could actually move up from say 10 to 7 to draft him. After him I'd target Dakari Johnson in the late teens to 20's.

No thanks on Harrell - with a lottery pick anyway. I've had more than my fill of moderately talented PFs masquerading as undersized centers. Reminds me of Faried. Nice player, but not a cornerstone.

[jonaslopes]

Be mature, we are not getting Towns or Okafor. That's a fact. We should talk about the other guy, WCS, Myles Turner, Dakari, Kaminsky, Porzingis.

And maybe Ainge decides to use our better pick draft not a center, but a small forward or other thing, and then use the Clippers pick to draft someone like Kaminsky (I don't if he has any future, but I can see Brad admiring his style) or Dakari.

[PickNRoll]

I see them as players of completely different caliber.

Okafor - Tim Duncan - can't miss
Towns - Derrick Favors
WCS - Tyson Chandler

I'd sell the farm for Okafor.

Okafor is closer to jefferson than duncan. Average impact on the defensive. He doesnt seem interested in playing tough physical defense imo

I like harrell better. Not as skilled but a force and unpleasent to play against

You're probably right.  Stylistically he might be more like Jefferson.  Less face-up game from what I've seen.  My point is that these 3 guys grade out as A, B, and C+ caliber talents, so I don't think it's clear what we would we need to give up to get one of them.  Selecting Okafor will require the first pick and may be impossible.  WCS might be available when we pick.

[puskas54_10]

Nobody.
This is not the NFL.
Top 5 picks have infinitely better value than anything the celtics have right now.
(Although a big losing streak could put the celtics back in the mix as far as their own pick could be Top 5)

[MetroGlobe]

That's not true.  It's definitely happened before.  Remember Seattle trading up to get the #5 pick in order to land Jeff Green?  That's only time I can remember the C's doing it off the top of my head.  But it's definitely happened dozens of times before.

We know there will be at least one established, playoff-cusp team that lands in the top 5 that would prefer a veteran that can help immediately instead of another draftee.  They'll trade for slightly lower pick(s) if it can land them a veteran player.  By that point Sullinger will be a 3rd year vet, and AB a 4th year vet.

Obviously they aren't worth a top 5 pick on their own.  But Danny Ainge can offer as many as 4 first round picks over the next few years and STILL leave us with plenty of picks to keep deepening our talent pool.

What GM says no to 4 first round picks plus either Sullinger or AB?

[knuckleballer]

If Detroit or Philly end up with a top pick, they may be willing to pass on Towns or Okafor.  Or they may be willing to trade one of the young centers they already have.  The Celtics have the assets to get it done.

[Donoghus]

That's not true.  It's definitely happened before.  Remember Seattle trading up to get the #5 pick in order to land Jeff Green?  That's only time I can remember the C's doing it off the top of my head.  But it's definitely happened dozens of times before.

We know there will be at least one established, playoff-cusp team that lands in the top 5 that would prefer a veteran that can help immediately instead of another draftee.  They'll trade for slightly lower pick(s) if it can land them a veteran player.  By that point Sullinger will be a 3rd year vet, and AB a 4th year vet.

Obviously they aren't worth a top 5 pick on their own.  But Danny Ainge can offer as many as 4 first round picks over the next few years and STILL leave us with plenty of picks to keep deepening our talent pool.

What GM says no to 4 first round picks plus either Sullinger or AB?

You really think Ainge would offer 4 first rounders & Sullinger for a top draft pick?

[Fafnir]

That's not true.  It's definitely happened before.  Remember Seattle trading up to get the #5 pick in order to land Jeff Green?  That's only time I can remember the C's doing it off the top of my head.  But it's definitely happened dozens of times before.

We know there will be at least one established, playoff-cusp team that lands in the top 5 that would prefer a veteran that can help immediately instead of another draftee.  They'll trade for slightly lower pick(s) if it can land them a veteran player.  By that point Sullinger will be a 3rd year vet, and AB a 4th year vet.

Obviously they aren't worth a top 5 pick on their own.  But Danny Ainge can offer as many as 4 first round picks over the next few years and STILL leave us with plenty of picks to keep deepening our talent pool.

What GM says no to 4 first round picks plus either Sullinger or AB?

If they're not going to be lottery picks, probably unprotected, every single one.

[PickNRoll]

That's not true.  It's definitely happened before.  Remember Seattle trading up to get the #5 pick in order to land Jeff Green?  That's only time I can remember the C's doing it off the top of my head.  But it's definitely happened dozens of times before.

We know there will be at least one established, playoff-cusp team that lands in the top 5 that would prefer a veteran that can help immediately instead of another draftee.  They'll trade for slightly lower pick(s) if it can land them a veteran player.  By that point Sullinger will be a 3rd year vet, and AB a 4th year vet.

Obviously they aren't worth a top 5 pick on their own.  But Danny Ainge can offer as many as 4 first round picks over the next few years and STILL leave us with plenty of picks to keep deepening our talent pool.

What GM says no to 4 first round picks plus either Sullinger or AB?

You really think Ainge would offer 4 first rounders & Sullinger for a top draft pick?

Imagine you're giving up a #27, 25, 20, and 19.  Clippers, Mavericks, Cleveland, Brooklyn.  Something like that.  Would it not make sense to unload those for Okafor?

[Fafnir]

That's not true.  It's definitely happened before.  Remember Seattle trading up to get the #5 pick in order to land Jeff Green?  That's only time I can remember the C's doing it off the top of my head.  But it's definitely happened dozens of times before.

We know there will be at least one established, playoff-cusp team that lands in the top 5 that would prefer a veteran that can help immediately instead of another draftee.  They'll trade for slightly lower pick(s) if it can land them a veteran player.  By that point Sullinger will be a 3rd year vet, and AB a 4th year vet.

Obviously they aren't worth a top 5 pick on their own.  But Danny Ainge can offer as many as 4 first round picks over the next few years and STILL leave us with plenty of picks to keep deepening our talent pool.

What GM says no to 4 first round picks plus either Sullinger or AB?

You really think Ainge would offer 4 first rounders & Sullinger for a top draft pick?

Imagine you're giving up a #27, 25, 20, and 19.  Clippers, Mavericks, Cleveland, Brooklyn.  Something like that.  Would it not make sense to unload those for Okafor?

Of course it would, which is why the opposing GM would demand multiple lottery picks from the C's themselves.

Would you have traded Smart/Parker/Wiggins/Embiid for four picks that low plus Terrance Jones?

[Donoghus]

That's not true.  It's definitely happened before.  Remember Seattle trading up to get the #5 pick in order to land Jeff Green?  That's only time I can remember the C's doing it off the top of my head.  But it's definitely happened dozens of times before.

We know there will be at least one established, playoff-cusp team that lands in the top 5 that would prefer a veteran that can help immediately instead of another draftee.  They'll trade for slightly lower pick(s) if it can land them a veteran player.  By that point Sullinger will be a 3rd year vet, and AB a 4th year vet.

Obviously they aren't worth a top 5 pick on their own.  But Danny Ainge can offer as many as 4 first round picks over the next few years and STILL leave us with plenty of picks to keep deepening our talent pool.

What GM says no to 4 first round picks plus either Sullinger or AB?

You really think Ainge would offer 4 first rounders & Sullinger for a top draft pick?

Imagine you're giving up a #27, 25, 20, and 19.  Clippers, Mavericks, Cleveland, Brooklyn.  Something like that.  Would it not make sense to unload those for Okafor?

That's not going to get the first pick in the draft. 

[puskas54_10]

That's not true.  It's definitely happened before.  Remember Seattle trading up to get the #5 pick in order to land Jeff Green?  That's only time I can remember the C's doing it off the top of my head.  But it's definitely happened dozens of times before.

We know there will be at least one established, playoff-cusp team that lands in the top 5 that would prefer a veteran that can help immediately instead of another draftee.  They'll trade for slightly lower pick(s) if it can land them a veteran player.  By that point Sullinger will be a 3rd year vet, and AB a 4th year vet.

Obviously they aren't worth a top 5 pick on their own.  But Danny Ainge can offer as many as 4 first round picks over the next few years and STILL leave us with plenty of picks to keep deepening our talent pool.

What GM says no to 4 first round picks plus either Sullinger or AB?

You can keep your picks If I'm the GM.
Quality over quantity all the time.