I am getting tired of Damian Lillard already.

[Moranis]

Getting Lillard this season would all but guarantee a title if everyone was healthy come playoff time because it means you'd still have Tatum and Brown plus Lillard and probably Porzingis.  I like White, but if all it took to get Lillard was White, Brogdon, filler, and picks you do that without hesitation every single time.

[kraidstar]

Getting Lillard this season would all but guarantee a title if everyone was healthy come playoff time because it means you'd still have Tatum and Brown plus Lillard and probably Porzingis.  I like White, but if all it took to get Lillard was White, Brogdon, filler, and picks you do that without hesitation every single time.

If that's the case, it would have  been a lot better if this trade happened a month ago. We'd have more playing time available at the start of free agency and would have landed some of those better vet minimum free agents.

If we trade half the team for dame now, it will be much harder to fill those holes.

[Roy H.]

Getting Lillard this season would all but guarantee a title if everyone was healthy come playoff time because it means you'd still have Tatum and Brown plus Lillard and probably Porzingis.  I like White, but if all it took to get Lillard was White, Brogdon, filler, and picks you do that without hesitation every single time.

If that's the case, it would have  been a lot better if this trade happened a month ago. We'd have more playing time available at the start of free agency and would have landed some of those better vet minimum free agents.

If we trade half the team for dame now, it will be much harder to fill those holes.

While you're right, 1) Brad should have upgraded the roster regardless, rather than bringing in scrubs; and 2) we wouldn't be decimating the team, we'd be doing a 2-for-1.   I think we'd still have a monster roster, health dependent.  The Hospital Celtics would be:

Timelord / Kornet
KP / Horford / Brissett
Tatum / Hauser
Brown / ?
Lillard / Pritchard

Obviously I'd feel a lot better about that squad if it had a guy like Eric Gordon, but there are still a handful of guys out there that could help.

But, it's not happening.

[Moranis]

I think the trade that makes the most sense is where Boston also get Nurkic with Rob and PP going to Portland and Brogdon going to LA.

So

Bsoton - Lillard, Nurkic, Hyland
Clippers - Brogdon, Kornet
Portland - Rob, White, Coffey, Pritchard, Morris, Mem 24 1st, Bos 24, 26, 28 1st's and swap in 26 and 27

Boston post trade (2 open spots)
Starters - Lillard, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis,  Nurkic
Rotation - Hyland, Hauser, Brisset, Horford
Deep Bench - Davison, Banton, Champagnie, Walsh, Scrubb, Griffin

Need a couple of vets that could play, but no one is beating that team if they are healthy (and even though we lose a bit more depth, I think Nurkic is the better fit so I'd do that part).

[Birdman]

I think the trade that makes the most sense is where Boston also get Nurkic with Rob and PP going to Portland and Brogdon going to LA.

So

Bsoton - Lillard, Nurkic, Hyland
Clippers - Brogdon, Kornet
Portland - Rob, White, Coffey, Pritchard, Morris, Mem 24 1st, Bos 24, 26, 28 1st's and swap in 26 and 27

Boston post trade (2 open spots)
Starters - Lillard, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis,  Nurkic
Rotation - Hyland, Hauser, Brisset, Horford
Deep Bench - Davison, Banton, Champagnie, Walsh, Scrubb, Griffin

Need a couple of vets that could play, but no one is beating that team if they are healthy (and even though we lose a bit more depth, I think Nurkic is the better fit so I'd do that part).

Probably win 70 games with that team

[Roy H.]

I think the trade that makes the most sense is where Boston also get Nurkic with Rob and PP going to Portland and Brogdon going to LA.

So

Bsoton - Lillard, Nurkic, Hyland
Clippers - Brogdon, Kornet
Portland - Rob, White, Coffey, Pritchard, Morris, Mem 24 1st, Bos 24, 26, 28 1st's and swap in 26 and 27

Boston post trade (2 open spots)
Starters - Lillard, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis,  Nurkic
Rotation - Hyland, Hauser, Brisset, Horford
Deep Bench - Davison, Banton, Champagnie, Walsh, Scrubb, Griffin

Need a couple of vets that could play, but no one is beating that team if they are healthy (and even though we lose a bit more depth, I think Nurkic is the better fit so I'd do that part).

I would never, ever trade for Nurkic.  Bad player, bad contract.

[obnoxiousmime]

I think the trade that makes the most sense is where Boston also get Nurkic with Rob and PP going to Portland and Brogdon going to LA.

So

Bsoton - Lillard, Nurkic, Hyland
Clippers - Brogdon, Kornet
Portland - Rob, White, Coffey, Pritchard, Morris, Mem 24 1st, Bos 24, 26, 28 1st's and swap in 26 and 27

Boston post trade (2 open spots)
Starters - Lillard, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis,  Nurkic
Rotation - Hyland, Hauser, Brisset, Horford
Deep Bench - Davison, Banton, Champagnie, Walsh, Scrubb, Griffin

Need a couple of vets that could play, but no one is beating that team if they are healthy (and even though we lose a bit more depth, I think Nurkic is the better fit so I'd do that part).

Isn't Nurkic pretty much done as a starter on a good team now? Especially because he's also an injury risk. I also don't really trust Hyland as a locker room guy or defender and with such a stacked offensive team you wouldn't really need his scoring.

[gouki88]

I think the trade that makes the most sense is where Boston also get Nurkic with Rob and PP going to Portland and Brogdon going to LA.

So

Bsoton - Lillard, Nurkic, Hyland
Clippers - Brogdon, Kornet
Portland - Rob, White, Coffey, Pritchard, Morris, Mem 24 1st, Bos 24, 26, 28 1st's and swap in 26 and 27

Boston post trade (2 open spots)
Starters - Lillard, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis,  Nurkic
Rotation - Hyland, Hauser, Brisset, Horford
Deep Bench - Davison, Banton, Champagnie, Walsh, Scrubb, Griffin

Need a couple of vets that could play, but no one is beating that team if they are healthy (and even though we lose a bit more depth, I think Nurkic is the better fit so I'd do that part).

I would never, ever trade for Nurkic.  Bad player, bad contract.

Prior to broken leg, I loved Nurk. Not so much these days. Can't stay on the floor either

[Moranis]

I think the trade that makes the most sense is where Boston also get Nurkic with Rob and PP going to Portland and Brogdon going to LA.

So

Bsoton - Lillard, Nurkic, Hyland
Clippers - Brogdon, Kornet
Portland - Rob, White, Coffey, Pritchard, Morris, Mem 24 1st, Bos 24, 26, 28 1st's and swap in 26 and 27

Boston post trade (2 open spots)
Starters - Lillard, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis,  Nurkic
Rotation - Hyland, Hauser, Brisset, Horford
Deep Bench - Davison, Banton, Champagnie, Walsh, Scrubb, Griffin

Need a couple of vets that could play, but no one is beating that team if they are healthy (and even though we lose a bit more depth, I think Nurkic is the better fit so I'd do that part).

I would never, ever trade for Nurkic.  Bad player, bad contract.

Prior to broken leg, I loved Nurk. Not so much these days. Can't stay on the floor either

he has played 108 games over the last 2 seasons. Rob played in 96.  I like the floor spacing of Nurkic with Zinger and Al. 

[gouki88]

I think the trade that makes the most sense is where Boston also get Nurkic with Rob and PP going to Portland and Brogdon going to LA.

So

Bsoton - Lillard, Nurkic, Hyland
Clippers - Brogdon, Kornet
Portland - Rob, White, Coffey, Pritchard, Morris, Mem 24 1st, Bos 24, 26, 28 1st's and swap in 26 and 27

Boston post trade (2 open spots)
Starters - Lillard, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis,  Nurkic
Rotation - Hyland, Hauser, Brisset, Horford
Deep Bench - Davison, Banton, Champagnie, Walsh, Scrubb, Griffin

Need a couple of vets that could play, but no one is beating that team if they are healthy (and even though we lose a bit more depth, I think Nurkic is the better fit so I'd do that part).

I would never, ever trade for Nurkic.  Bad player, bad contract.

Prior to broken leg, I loved Nurk. Not so much these days. Can't stay on the floor either

he has played 108 games over the last 2 seasons. Rob played in 96.  I like the floor spacing of Nurkic with Zinger and Al.

Didn’t know I brought up Williams’ injury proneness. Nurkic earns significantly more money too.

I hate the idea of him alongside KP on defence. Too slow, both drop coverage bigs. Nurkic doesn’t have Porzingis’ length or Williams’ athleticism to recover.

[trickybilly]

Agreed, total pass on Lillard.

[Moranis]

I think the trade that makes the most sense is where Boston also get Nurkic with Rob and PP going to Portland and Brogdon going to LA.

So

Bsoton - Lillard, Nurkic, Hyland
Clippers - Brogdon, Kornet
Portland - Rob, White, Coffey, Pritchard, Morris, Mem 24 1st, Bos 24, 26, 28 1st's and swap in 26 and 27

Boston post trade (2 open spots)
Starters - Lillard, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis,  Nurkic
Rotation - Hyland, Hauser, Brisset, Horford
Deep Bench - Davison, Banton, Champagnie, Walsh, Scrubb, Griffin

Need a couple of vets that could play, but no one is beating that team if they are healthy (and even though we lose a bit more depth, I think Nurkic is the better fit so I'd do that part).

I would never, ever trade for Nurkic.  Bad player, bad contract.

Prior to broken leg, I loved Nurk. Not so much these days. Can't stay on the floor either

he has played 108 games over the last 2 seasons. Rob played in 96.  I like the floor spacing of Nurkic with Zinger and Al.

Didn’t know I brought up Williams’ injury proneness. Nurkic earns significantly more money too.

I hate the idea of him alongside KP on defence. Too slow, both drop coverage bigs. Nurkic doesn’t have Porzingis’ length or Williams’ athleticism to recover.

You didn't but it is a swap of centers and in that Nurkic has been healthier (so if he can't stay on the floor, neither can Rob).  Nurkic earns about the tax payer mle more than Rob.  Which isn't nothing, but I don't know if that is significant either. 

Obviously Rob is a much better defender, but I don't think Rob and Zinger are going to be all that effective together frankly on either end. 

[celticsclay]

I think the trade that makes the most sense is where Boston also get Nurkic with Rob and PP going to Portland and Brogdon going to LA.

So

Bsoton - Lillard, Nurkic, Hyland
Clippers - Brogdon, Kornet
Portland - Rob, White, Coffey, Pritchard, Morris, Mem 24 1st, Bos 24, 26, 28 1st's and swap in 26 and 27

Boston post trade (2 open spots)
Starters - Lillard, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis,  Nurkic
Rotation - Hyland, Hauser, Brisset, Horford
Deep Bench - Davison, Banton, Champagnie, Walsh, Scrubb, Griffin

Need a couple of vets that could play, but no one is beating that team if they are healthy (and even though we lose a bit more depth, I think Nurkic is the better fit so I'd do that part).

I would never, ever trade for Nurkic.  Bad player, bad contract.

Prior to broken leg, I loved Nurk. Not so much these days. Can't stay on the floor either

he has played 108 games over the last 2 seasons. Rob played in 96.  I like the floor spacing of Nurkic with Zinger and Al.

Didn’t know I brought up Williams’ injury proneness. Nurkic earns significantly more money too.

I hate the idea of him alongside KP on defence. Too slow, both drop coverage bigs. Nurkic doesn’t have Porzingis’ length or Williams’ athleticism to recover.

You didn't but it is a swap of centers and in that Nurkic has been healthier (so if he can't stay on the floor, neither can Rob).  Nurkic earns about the tax payer mle more than Rob.  Which isn't nothing, but I don't know if that is significant either. 

Obviously Rob is a much better defender, but I don't think Rob and Zinger are going to be all that effective together frankly on either end.

Nurkic is an awful defender at this stage of his career and is just not a quality starting center. Big no thanks on him

[celticsclay]

I think the trade that makes the most sense is where Boston also get Nurkic with Rob and PP going to Portland and Brogdon going to LA.

So

Bsoton - Lillard, Nurkic, Hyland
Clippers - Brogdon, Kornet
Portland - Rob, White, Coffey, Pritchard, Morris, Mem 24 1st, Bos 24, 26, 28 1st's and swap in 26 and 27

Boston post trade (2 open spots)
Starters - Lillard, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis,  Nurkic
Rotation - Hyland, Hauser, Brisset, Horford
Deep Bench - Davison, Banton, Champagnie, Walsh, Scrubb, Griffin

Need a couple of vets that could play, but no one is beating that team if they are healthy (and even though we lose a bit more depth, I think Nurkic is the better fit so I'd do that part).

I would never, ever trade for Nurkic.  Bad player, bad contract.

Agreed. If you have watched him last few years he has fallen off a cliff, especially defensively.

[GreenEnvy]

I always liked Lillard, but I’m over this entire story. I really don’t care where he goes (or if he stays). NBA has become a joke with this stuff for years now. I appreciated the Nets snuffing Durant’s request last summer, but we all saw how that ultimately ended. I hope Portland takes a stand, but I’m sure they will cave in the next month or so.

If the players want freedom, opt for non-guaranteed contracts or mutual options for multi-year deals.