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Re: Report: Lillard requests trade
« Reply #75 on: July 01, 2023, 01:25:12 PM »

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POR should pull out of that Jerami Grant agreement. Nothing is signed yet. Tell him things have changed because they have. No longer needed. Goodbye.
No free agent would ever sign there again if a team did that.

Of course they would. Money talks.
They’re a day into FA. Who would sign Grant at this point? That management would be viewed as persona non grata by every agent and player. It literally would be an awful thing for them.

Re: Report: Lillard requests trade
« Reply #76 on: July 01, 2023, 01:26:39 PM »

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Can we do a boatload of picks and Brogdon, TIMELORD, and a resigned Grant Williams in some kind of three-team deal? A starting five of Zinger, Tatum, Brown, White, and Lillard is monstrous.
There's only one ball on the court.  Are you going to make Lillard the #1 offensive option over Tatum?  If not, Lillard's value is significantly less.  Brown and Zinger would definitely not be happy as 3rd and 4th options.

Agree. IT makes more sense to move Brown, but given the age difference between Brown and Lillard, we should receive Sharpe as well...they can have Pritchard

Re: Report: Lillard requests trade
« Reply #77 on: July 01, 2023, 01:28:25 PM »

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POR should pull out of that Jerami Grant agreement. Nothing is signed yet. Tell him things have changed because they have. No longer needed. Goodbye.
No free agent would ever sign there again if a team did that.

Of course they would. Money talks.
They’re a day into FA. Who would sign Grant at this point? That management would be viewed as persona non grata by every agent and player. It literally would be an awful thing for them.

It would be bad. Agreed.

But it wouldn't be too bad. They can ride it out. Live with the fallout.

It wouldn't be worse than giving J Grant that money.
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Re: Report: Lillard requests trade
« Reply #78 on: July 01, 2023, 01:31:53 PM »

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Lillard for TimeLord, Brogdon, Pritchard & couple firsts would do it..
Porzingis
Horford
Tatum
Brown
Lillard
White
Kornet
Brisset
Hauser
Walsh
Try get couple cheap vets

Me and least one other are more in line with Shaq's recent comment.  I don't need 4 stars. Just 2 stars and a bunch of gritty specialists...

I think the team above would require Doc R. or a professional psychologist to deal with each guys lack of scoring stats.

Re: Report: Lillard requests trade
« Reply #79 on: July 01, 2023, 01:35:59 PM »

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Lillard for TimeLord, Brogdon, Pritchard & couple firsts would do it..
Porzingis
Horford
Tatum
Brown
Lillard
White
Kornet
Brisset
Hauser
Walsh
Try get couple cheap vets

Dude, this isn’t 2k lol You can’t just turn off the salary cap rules.

Re: Report: Lillard requests trade
« Reply #80 on: July 01, 2023, 01:38:47 PM »

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Mmm ... Lillard and Steph together [trade idea]. CP3, Kuminga, picks for Lillard. Might need some more cap filler from GSW to make the numbers work.

It is a competitive offer. Young prospect & picks.
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Re: Report: Lillard requests trade
« Reply #81 on: July 01, 2023, 01:49:11 PM »

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Lol are the Blazers really going to trade Lillard for Herro, Robinson + picks?? That's it!? Yikes
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Re: Report: Lillard requests trade
« Reply #82 on: July 01, 2023, 01:53:10 PM »

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I'm no cap expert.  Can somebody explain to me why we shouldn't be offering Brown for Lillard? 

Re: Report: Lillard requests trade
« Reply #83 on: July 01, 2023, 01:53:58 PM »

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If I was Lillard I'd go to SA. Wemby + alot of long wings and a fantastic coach. Then he gets to be the guy who Shepards in the next big thing in the nba while still scoring a ton.
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Re: Report: Lillard requests trade
« Reply #84 on: July 01, 2023, 01:57:38 PM »

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If I was Lillard I'd go to SA. Wemby + alot of long wings and a fantastic coach. Then he gets to be the guy who Shepards in the next big thing in the nba while still scoring a ton.

If I were the Spurs, I'd be pushing hard for it. Pop doesn't have too many years left.

Re: Report: Lillard requests trade
« Reply #85 on: July 01, 2023, 02:27:16 PM »

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I'm no cap expert.  Can somebody explain to me why we shouldn't be offering Brown for Lillard?

I’ve seen different layouts of Lillard’s current deal, but I believe the correct one has his final year as a player option in 26-27. In that season he’ll make $63M.  I believe he’ll be 35.

I think the idea of being on the hook for 35 year old Lillard is scary given Brown’s extension would secure him through 28-29 (?) and only be around 30 or 31 at that point. 

It comes down to a much shorter window and possibility of being hamstrung with a colossal contract for a possibly declining 35 year old in just 3 years.

Even still, I think Brown for Lillard has to be a consideration.

Re: Report: Lillard requests trade
« Reply #86 on: July 01, 2023, 02:35:18 PM »

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I'm no cap expert.  Can somebody explain to me why we shouldn't be offering Brown for Lillard?

We should.
Brown + filler (not White or Timelord) is a good offer which isn't easy to beat for other contenders.

Lillard/White/Tatum/Timelord/Zinger is a heck of a line-up.

Re: Report: Lillard requests trade
« Reply #87 on: July 01, 2023, 02:37:50 PM »

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I'm no cap expert.  Can somebody explain to me why we shouldn't be offering Brown for Lillard?

I’d say due to him being old and missing a lot of games every year. Small guards don’t typically age well. Also Has a terrible contract and he doesn’t seem interested in coming to Boston.
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Re: Report: Lillard requests trade
« Reply #88 on: July 01, 2023, 02:40:55 PM »

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I'm no cap expert.  Can somebody explain to me why we shouldn't be offering Brown for Lillard?

I’ve seen different layouts of Lillard’s current deal, but I believe the correct one has his final year as a player option in 26-27. In that season he’ll make $63M.  I believe he’ll be 35.

I think the idea of being on the hook for 35 year old Lillard is scary given Brown’s extension would secure him through 28-29 (?) and only be around 30 or 31 at that point. 

It comes down to a much shorter window and possibility of being hamstrung with a colossal contract for a possibly declining 35 year old in just 3 years.

Even still, I think Brown for Lillard has to be a consideration.

I just think it makes a lot of sense.  On paper, Lillard/Tatum/Porzingis fit together very well.  I think we can preserve a lot of our depth in the short-term, too.  That trio with balanced, solid depth at every position is very tempting to me, even though I acknowledge that it shortens our window (though KP's extension leads me to believe we're shooting for a three-year window here anyway). 

Worst case, you probably block Miami from pulling off a heist.  Getting Lillard for a package built around Tyler freaking Herro would be robbery.  With Jaylen on the table, IMO they'd have to dangle Bam to compete.  Maybe Portland still prefers to give Lillard what he wants in terms of destination, but I'd be a lot less concerned about a Lillard/Herro/Butler Miami team than I would be a Lillard/Butler/Bam team. 

Re: Report: Lillard requests trade
« Reply #89 on: July 01, 2023, 02:41:00 PM »

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Lillard for TimeLord, Brogdon, Pritchard & couple firsts would do it..
Porzingis
Horford
Tatum
Brown
Lillard
White
Kornet
Brisset
Hauser
Walsh
Try get couple cheap vets

Dude, this isn’t 2k lol You can’t just turn off the salary cap rules.
Add Hauser & Kornet and it works buddy, but I wouldn’t trade the farm for him
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PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin