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Most Overrated Athlete?
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I watch a lot of YouTube and Mike Tyson is someone who gets views because of his image and ruthlessness. The casual young sports fan view Tyson as a GOAT candidate, but in reality he’s a tier below.

Just curious who others on the forum would view as some of the most overrated athletes in history?

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I watch a lot of YouTube and Mike Tyson is someone who gets views because of his image and ruthlessness. The casual young sports fan view Tyson as a GOAT candidate, but in reality he’s a tier below.

Just curious who others on the forum would view as some of the most overrated athletes in history?

Mostly QBs and ball dominant point guards who can’t defend. Joe Namath, Tony Romo, Troy Aikman, Trae Young, Ja Morant.

Not saying they aren’t good, but the QBs are overrated and in 4 years, when they aren’t young anymore, the basketball players may not be such hot commodities, though they are both all stars.
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Football: Troy Aikman and John Elway
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Basketball: Scottie Pippen

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How is John Elway overrated?
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I think in general athletes in the NY and LA markets get over rated because of the size of the fan bases and the concentration of media in those cities.

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Namath was definitely the first one that came to mind.

You can probably point to a handful of QBs that are overrated simply because of a Super Bowl ring (or rings) but Namath would definitely be at the top. 


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I watch a lot of YouTube and Mike Tyson is someone who gets views because of his image and ruthlessness. The casual young sports fan view Tyson as a GOAT candidate, but in reality he’s a tier below.

Just curious who others on the forum would view as some of the most overrated athletes in history?

Yeah, I won't put Tyson here.  He disposed of Marvis Frazier in 30 seconds and Marvis was projected to be a rising star and future champion.  I suggest people go back and look at his early bouts, completely a beast.

As for overrated, three that immediately jump to the top of my list are Dale Jr, Tony Romo, Kurt Warner.  I'm sure I can come up with others but want some time to think about it.
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Is Tony Romo rated highly enough to be considered overrated?  I don't think most people view him as even a HOF QB.  He was generally considered a good, sometimes great, QB, but I'm not sure he was ever even thought of as a top 5 QB in any given season. 
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I watch a lot of YouTube and Mike Tyson is someone who gets views because of his image and ruthlessness. The casual young sports fan view Tyson as a GOAT candidate, but in reality he’s a tier below.

Just curious who others on the forum would view as some of the most overrated athletes in history?

Yeah, I won't put Tyson here.  He disposed of Marvis Frazier in 30 seconds and Marvis was projected to be a rising star and future champion.  I suggest people go back and look at his early bouts, completely a beast.

As for overrated, three that immediately jump to the top of my list are Dale Jr, Tony Romo, Kurt Warner.  I'm sure I can come up with others but want some time to think about it.

I agree about Tyson.  When he was young and focused he was destroying everyone.  Other top fighters were legitimately afraid of him.

I’ll go with Jeter for overrated. He was a great player, but he also got way too much credit. 

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Aaron Rodgers. I know he has that one ring from when he was younger, but he seems to choke in the postseason regularly. Many believe he’s the most talented QB of all time.
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I watch a lot of YouTube and Mike Tyson is someone who gets views because of his image and ruthlessness. The casual young sports fan view Tyson as a GOAT candidate, but in reality he’s a tier below.

Just curious who others on the forum would view as some of the most overrated athletes in history?

Yeah, I won't put Tyson here.  He disposed of Marvis Frazier in 30 seconds and Marvis was projected to be a rising star and future champion.  I suggest people go back and look at his early bouts, completely a beast.

As for overrated, three that immediately jump to the top of my list are Dale Jr, Tony Romo, Kurt Warner.  I'm sure I can come up with others but want some time to think about it.

Kurt Warner is a tough case.  He's sort of like Bill Walton in terms of his career.  Two MVPs, three SB appearances, and a bunch of shortened seasons.  There's always the question of "if this guy stayed healthy, what would he have done?"

I'm okay with him being recognized as a Hall of Famer. 

A guy I think that was overrated was Eli Manning.  He's got the two SB titles, which are big, but otherwise I think he was way too sloppy with the ball to be considered a great QB, particularly in light of a career .500 record.  He's actually got more INTs + fumbles than he does TD passes, and he only won a playoff game in two out of 16 seasons.  It's just that in those two seasons, he won eight playoff games.


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Wilt Chamberlain. It's completely laughable that modern day lists of the greatest basketball players in history put him above Russell. The folks watching basketball in the 1960s certainly didn't see it that way. The problem is that, these days it's a very individualistic era, and there is too much emphasis on individual play and not on how a player helps his team succeed. Hence the obsession with Chamberlain.

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Wilt Chamberlain. It's completely laughable that modern day lists of the greatest basketball players in history put him above Russell. The folks watching basketball in the 1960s certainly didn't see it that way. The problem is that, these days it's a very individualistic era, and there is too much emphasis on individual play and not on how a player helps his team succeed. Hence the obsession with Chamberlain.

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I watch a lot of YouTube and Mike Tyson is someone who gets views because of his image and ruthlessness. The casual young sports fan view Tyson as a GOAT candidate, but in reality he’s a tier below.

Just curious who others on the forum would view as some of the most overrated athletes in history?

Yeah, I won't put Tyson here.  He disposed of Marvis Frazier in 30 seconds and Marvis was projected to be a rising star and future champion.  I suggest people go back and look at his early bouts, completely a beast.

As for overrated, three that immediately jump to the top of my list are Dale Jr, Tony Romo, Kurt Warner.  I'm sure I can come up with others but want some time to think about it.

Kurt Warner is a tough case.  He's sort of like Bill Walton in terms of his career.  Two MVPs, three SB appearances, and a bunch of shortened seasons.  There's always the question of "if this guy stayed healthy, what would he have done?"

I'm okay with him being recognized as a Hall of Famer. 

A guy I think that was overrated was Eli Manning.  He's got the two SB titles, which are big, but otherwise I think he was way too sloppy with the ball to be considered a great QB, particularly in light of a career .500 record.  He's actually got more INTs + fumbles than he does TD passes, and he only won a playoff game in two out of 16 seasons.  It's just that in those two seasons, he won eight playoff games.

Fully agree on Eli, just think wasn't Kurt really as great as people thought he was.  My answer is no.

I'm seeing a few say Jeter.  Again, I say, go watch the tape.  He played 20 years and aside from his first and the 2013 season, he averaged 150 games per season.  He was 14x all-star, 5x Champ, World Series MVP, Rookie of the year, 5x Gold Glove and Silver Slugger.  He was also the sixth overall pick in the 1992 draft, so overrated, maybe not so much.

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Wilt Chamberlain. It's completely laughable that modern day lists of the greatest basketball players in history put him above Russell. The folks watching basketball in the 1960s certainly didn't see it that way. The problem is that, these days it's a very individualistic era, and there is too much emphasis on individual play and not on how a player helps his team succeed. Hence the obsession with Chamberlain.

I would argue, the obsession today are championships. With that basis in mind, do we overrate Bill Russell?

When it comes to making an all time top 5 list, I have the hardest time because I never saw guys like Russell or Chamberlain play.