Boston Celtics (34-12) at Toronto Raptors (20-26) Game #47 1/21/23

[angryguy77]

62 bench points is awesome!

Raptors should be embarrassed,  we spot them no JT , no Rob and no Smart and they can’t win a t home ……you got to ask yourself does the team have issues

They should call the cavs and do group therapy.

[slamtheking]

I think the Raptors have to make some tough decisions.  They have way too much talent to be 20-27.  Boston was missing its best player tonight, lost three more guys as the game played out, and Toronto still found a way to screw it up. 

This everybody-on-the-roster-is-a-6'8"-PF experiment isn't working for them.  Time for some changes.

at this point, I'd have to agree.  there's just too much talent there for that team not to be playing better.   they would seem to need to move one of the many forwards for a legit big man and a SG.   

tossing out an idea - they've probably got the pieces to take a shot at getting Beal from Washington.  that would give them some balance and that 'guy' they can go to down the stretch to win games.

Do you keep Siakam and make everybody else available, or see if Scottie Barnes could be a foundation piece? Or do they just blow everything up and start over? Siakam, Barnes, FVV, OG…they do have some nice talent there. Maybe just replace the head coach?

honestly, if it were me running Toronto, I'd look to see how much else would have to be included with Siakam to get Beal.  if it's a first rounder or a minor player sure.  if it's more than that, I consider using Barnes as the centerpiece but not sure how I could possibly make the money match to get Beal.  that still leaves a center that needs to be picked up

[Celtics2021]

I think the Raptors have to make some tough decisions.  They have way too much talent to be 20-27.  Boston was missing its best player tonight, lost three more guys as the game played out, and Toronto still found a way to screw it up. 

This everybody-on-the-roster-is-a-6'8"-PF experiment isn't working for them.  Time for some changes.

at this point, I'd have to agree.  there's just too much talent there for that team not to be playing better.   they would seem to need to move one of the many forwards for a legit big man and a SG.   

tossing out an idea - they've probably got the pieces to take a shot at getting Beal from Washington.  that would give them some balance and that 'guy' they can go to down the stretch to win games.

Do you keep Siakam and make everybody else available, or see if Scottie Barnes could be a foundation piece? Or do they just blow everything up and start over? Siakam, Barnes, FVV, OG…they do have some nice talent there. Maybe just replace the head coach?

honestly, if it were me running Toronto, I'd look to see how much else would have to be included with Siakam to get Beal.  if it's a first rounder or a minor player sure.  if it's more than that, I consider using Barnes as the centerpiece but not sure how I could possibly make the money match to get Beal.  that still leaves a center that needs to be picked up

The Raptors should be getting a pick if they’re taking on Beal, not giving anything up.

[slamtheking]

I think the Raptors have to make some tough decisions.  They have way too much talent to be 20-27.  Boston was missing its best player tonight, lost three more guys as the game played out, and Toronto still found a way to screw it up. 

This everybody-on-the-roster-is-a-6'8"-PF experiment isn't working for them.  Time for some changes.

at this point, I'd have to agree.  there's just too much talent there for that team not to be playing better.   they would seem to need to move one of the many forwards for a legit big man and a SG.   

tossing out an idea - they've probably got the pieces to take a shot at getting Beal from Washington.  that would give them some balance and that 'guy' they can go to down the stretch to win games.

Do you keep Siakam and make everybody else available, or see if Scottie Barnes could be a foundation piece? Or do they just blow everything up and start over? Siakam, Barnes, FVV, OG…they do have some nice talent there. Maybe just replace the head coach?

honestly, if it were me running Toronto, I'd look to see how much else would have to be included with Siakam to get Beal.  if it's a first rounder or a minor player sure.  if it's more than that, I consider using Barnes as the centerpiece but not sure how I could possibly make the money match to get Beal.  that still leaves a center that needs to be picked up

The Raptors should be getting a pick if they’re taking on Beal, not giving anything up.

I think we have different evaluations of Beal and Siakam.  I think Siakam is still living off his year with Kawhi because he hasn't looked like the same player since.

[Goldstar88]

I think the Raptors have to make some tough decisions.  They have way too much talent to be 20-27.  Boston was missing its best player tonight, lost three more guys as the game played out, and Toronto still found a way to screw it up. 

This everybody-on-the-roster-is-a-6'8"-PF experiment isn't working for them.  Time for some changes.

at this point, I'd have to agree.  there's just too much talent there for that team not to be playing better.   they would seem to need to move one of the many forwards for a legit big man and a SG.   

tossing out an idea - they've probably got the pieces to take a shot at getting Beal from Washington.  that would give them some balance and that 'guy' they can go to down the stretch to win games.

Do you keep Siakam and make everybody else available, or see if Scottie Barnes could be a foundation piece? Or do they just blow everything up and start over? Siakam, Barnes, FVV, OG…they do have some nice talent there. Maybe just replace the head coach?

honestly, if it were me running Toronto, I'd look to see how much else would have to be included with Siakam to get Beal.  if it's a first rounder or a minor player sure.  if it's more than that, I consider using Barnes as the centerpiece but not sure how I could possibly make the money match to get Beal.  that still leaves a center that needs to be picked up

The Raptors should be getting a pick if they’re taking on Beal, not giving anything up.

Beals contract is awful, but for Toronto could they really do any better? Vanfleet, Beal, OG, Barnes… Make a trade for a C. That’s an interesting team.

[Neurotic Guy]

I think the Raptors have to make some tough decisions.  They have way too much talent to be 20-27.  Boston was missing its best player tonight, lost three more guys as the game played out, and Toronto still found a way to screw it up. 

This everybody-on-the-roster-is-a-6'8"-PF experiment isn't working for them.  Time for some changes.

at this point, I'd have to agree.  there's just too much talent there for that team not to be playing better.   they would seem to need to move one of the many forwards for a legit big man and a SG.   

tossing out an idea - they've probably got the pieces to take a shot at getting Beal from Washington.  that would give them some balance and that 'guy' they can go to down the stretch to win games.

Do you keep Siakam and make everybody else available, or see if Scottie Barnes could be a foundation piece? Or do they just blow everything up and start over? Siakam, Barnes, FVV, OG…they do have some nice talent there. Maybe just replace the head coach?

honestly, if it were me running Toronto, I'd look to see how much else would have to be included with Siakam to get Beal.  if it's a first rounder or a minor player sure.  if it's more than that, I consider using Barnes as the centerpiece but not sure how I could possibly make the money match to get Beal.  that still leaves a center that needs to be picked up

The Raptors should be getting a pick if they’re taking on Beal, not giving anything up.

I think we have different evaluations of Beal and Siakam.  I think Siakam is still living off his year with Kawhi because he hasn't looked like the same player since.

Looked very good to me today.  Money midrange. Created good looks for himself. He’s not a #1 but a really good player.

[slamtheking]

I think the Raptors have to make some tough decisions.  They have way too much talent to be 20-27.  Boston was missing its best player tonight, lost three more guys as the game played out, and Toronto still found a way to screw it up. 

This everybody-on-the-roster-is-a-6'8"-PF experiment isn't working for them.  Time for some changes.

at this point, I'd have to agree.  there's just too much talent there for that team not to be playing better.   they would seem to need to move one of the many forwards for a legit big man and a SG.   

tossing out an idea - they've probably got the pieces to take a shot at getting Beal from Washington.  that would give them some balance and that 'guy' they can go to down the stretch to win games.

Do you keep Siakam and make everybody else available, or see if Scottie Barnes could be a foundation piece? Or do they just blow everything up and start over? Siakam, Barnes, FVV, OG…they do have some nice talent there. Maybe just replace the head coach?

honestly, if it were me running Toronto, I'd look to see how much else would have to be included with Siakam to get Beal.  if it's a first rounder or a minor player sure.  if it's more than that, I consider using Barnes as the centerpiece but not sure how I could possibly make the money match to get Beal.  that still leaves a center that needs to be picked up

The Raptors should be getting a pick if they’re taking on Beal, not giving anything up.

Beals contract is awful, but for Toronto could they really do any better? Vanfleet, Beal, OG, Barnes… Make a trade for a C. That’s an interesting team.

that's pretty much where I was going.  add an offensive player like Beal and a center that can rebound and that would be a better structured team that I think would get better results.

[slamtheking]

I think the Raptors have to make some tough decisions.  They have way too much talent to be 20-27.  Boston was missing its best player tonight, lost three more guys as the game played out, and Toronto still found a way to screw it up. 

This everybody-on-the-roster-is-a-6'8"-PF experiment isn't working for them.  Time for some changes.

at this point, I'd have to agree.  there's just too much talent there for that team not to be playing better.   they would seem to need to move one of the many forwards for a legit big man and a SG.   

tossing out an idea - they've probably got the pieces to take a shot at getting Beal from Washington.  that would give them some balance and that 'guy' they can go to down the stretch to win games.

Do you keep Siakam and make everybody else available, or see if Scottie Barnes could be a foundation piece? Or do they just blow everything up and start over? Siakam, Barnes, FVV, OG…they do have some nice talent there. Maybe just replace the head coach?

honestly, if it were me running Toronto, I'd look to see how much else would have to be included with Siakam to get Beal.  if it's a first rounder or a minor player sure.  if it's more than that, I consider using Barnes as the centerpiece but not sure how I could possibly make the money match to get Beal.  that still leaves a center that needs to be picked up

The Raptors should be getting a pick if they’re taking on Beal, not giving anything up.

I think we have different evaluations of Beal and Siakam.  I think Siakam is still living off his year with Kawhi because he hasn't looked like the same player since.

Looked very good to me today.  Money midrange. Created good looks for himself. He’s not a #1 but a really good player.

he did look good today but that's today.  not saying I wouldn't love to have him on the team but he's not displacing Tatum or Brown as a starter.  I just think Beal, despite the loaded contract, brings more consistency on offense and can facilitate for others better than Siakam. 

[Silas]

Missed the last 3 quarters live but just finished watching the video.  Malcolm, Grant, and Payton helped win this game with their hustle and 3pt shooting.  JB with a solid game but 5 turnovers are too many.  Like John Lennon said...Number Nine.  On to Orlando and ten in a row.  Hope our walking wounded can play on Monday.

[Celtics4ever]

Malcolm, Grant, and Payton helped win this game with their hustle and 3pt shooting

I thought Al's defense was critical in the final minutes of the game.  Securing rebounds, defending and that steal.

[SHAQATTACK]

Malcolm, Grant, and Payton helped win this game with their hustle and 3pt shooting

I thought Al's defense was critical in the final minutes of the game.  Securing rebounds, defending and that steal.

Yup

[Silas]

Malcolm, Grant, and Payton helped win this game with their hustle and 3pt shooting

I thought Al's defense was critical in the final minutes of the game.  Securing rebounds, defending and that steal.

Agree.

[ozgod]

Finally got to watch the DVR of the game, another solid win while down 3 starters. Our bench came through and showed composure, particularly at the end. We shot well from 3 this time and we needed to. Again they found a way, away from home, in a hostile building. They're far from a finished product but these experiences are all helping them build resilience which they will need in June.

[SHAQATTACK]

I enjoy the routes of opponents , blow outs as much as anybody .  In the long run tho these difficult won games will build team confidence more and they will be the ones the players remember of, how hard they worked to get each victory .