NBA Season 2022-23

[Moranis]

Dallas said they won't help anyone get Kyrie in a sign and trade. They will not co-operate. So no way MIA can get Kyrie this summer. Or Phoenix.

then they lose him for nothing which is just dumb

[Roy H.]

Dallas said they won't help anyone get Kyrie in a sign and trade. They will not co-operate. So no way MIA can get Kyrie this summer. Or Phoenix.

then they lose him for nothing which is just dumb

To which team do you think?

[Kernewek]

Dallas said they won't help anyone get Kyrie in a sign and trade. They will not co-operate. So no way MIA can get Kyrie this summer. Or Phoenix.

then they lose him for nothing which is just dumb

To which team do you think?

What about Phoenix?

[jpotter33]

Dallas said they won't help anyone get Kyrie in a sign and trade. They will not co-operate. So no way MIA can get Kyrie this summer. Or Phoenix.

then they lose him for nothing which is just dumb

To which team do you think?

What about Phoenix?

But Phoenix can’t get him without help either, no? Even with few on their roster, they’ll still need a S&T or some significant movement to be able to sign him outright without help.

[Who]

Dallas said they won't help anyone get Kyrie in a sign and trade. They will not co-operate. So no way MIA can get Kyrie this summer. Or Phoenix.

then they lose him for nothing which is just dumb

I disagree. It reduces Kyrie's market considerably and makes it much more likely that he re-signs there. Good move by Dallas in my book.

[Vermont Green]

Dallas said they won't help anyone get Kyrie in a sign and trade. They will not co-operate. So no way MIA can get Kyrie this summer. Or Phoenix.

then they lose him for nothing which is just dumb

I disagree. It reduces Kyrie's market considerably and makes it much more likely that he re-signs there. Good move by Dallas in my book.

Exactly, it is a call my bluff move by Dallas.  I don't know the exact numbers but Dallas can resign him to a big contract.  Other teams will need actual cap space to come even close.  Or work out a sign and trade.  So Kyrie can sign with a bad team that has cap space, take a severe pay cut to sign with a good team, or resign with Dallas.  Dallas is betting that Kyrie will not want to play for a bad team and will not leave big money on the table.  Probably a good bet.

[gouki88]

Doc Rivers says it was ‘challenging’ coaching James Harden

“It was challenging. More because we were fighting two things, and not like visually fighting. James was so good at playing one way, and the way I believe you have to play to win, in some ways is different because it’s a lot of giving up the ball, moving the ball and coming back to the ball.”

You could see it. And then there was talk about James wanting to get back to "playing like himself" next season after Philly got eliminated.

Doc has faults, but he's right in this regard. Philly can't run a Harden-centric offense with Embiid in the mix. And then you have Maxey who is developing. It makes no sense.

Philly's only chance of beating us was when Harden was being aggressive with his shot-making. If Doc is the one who pushed him towards that pass at all costs style we saw, then he is wrong.

[Goldstar88]

Dallas said they won't help anyone get Kyrie in a sign and trade. They will not co-operate. So no way MIA can get Kyrie this summer. Or Phoenix.

then they lose him for nothing which is just dumb

I disagree. It reduces Kyrie's market considerably and makes it much more likely that he re-signs there. Good move by Dallas in my book.

So Kyrie agrees to a new contract with Dallas and then sabotages the team until they are forced to trade him. Sounds likely. 

[SparzWizard]

Why would Kyrie stay with Dallas lol can't coexist with Luka there and they look like a mess right now.

They'll lose him for nothing, he'll be headed to Lakers or Miami eventually

[Moranis]

Dallas said they won't help anyone get Kyrie in a sign and trade. They will not co-operate. So no way MIA can get Kyrie this summer. Or Phoenix.

then they lose him for nothing which is just dumb

I disagree. It reduces Kyrie's market considerably and makes it much more likely that he re-signs there. Good move by Dallas in my book.

Exactly, it is a call my bluff move by Dallas.  I don't know the exact numbers but Dallas can resign him to a big contract.  Other teams will need actual cap space to come even close.  Or work out a sign and trade.  So Kyrie can sign with a bad team that has cap space, take a severe pay cut to sign with a good team, or resign with Dallas.  Dallas is betting that Kyrie will not want to play for a bad team and will not leave big money on the table.  Probably a good bet.

It is Kyrie, I wouldn't take that bet at all. He might sign for the veteran minimum just for spite.  I also wouldn't count out a place like Houston, especially if they are really aggressive and land someone else in free agency or trade.  They certainly might sign Kyrie and Kyrie might actually go there. 

But it is mostly a dumb move because it eliminates options.  What if a team would be willing to give up something incredibly valuable to Dallas.  They've eliminated that possibility. 

You never take options off the table and you should never waste a potential asset, which is what this type of decision potentially does.  Just another in a long line of stupid decisions from the Mavs.  Only a matter or time before they alienate Luka and he walks out the door.

[johnnygreen]

I figured I bring up this question here, as it may be short lived. Las Vegas has an NHL team, an NFL team, and recently approved public funding for the Athletics MLB team. Does the NBA want in? Is yes, will it be part of relocating a team? Or possibly, add a team in Vegas and go back and add one in Seattle?

[SparzWizard]

I figured I bring up this question here, as it may be short lived. Las Vegas has an NHL team, an NFL team, and recently approved public funding for the Athletics MLB team. Does the NBA want in? Is yes, will it be part of relocating a team? Or possibly, add a team in Vegas and go back and add one in Seattle?

Two major sports teams were relocated to Vegas, while an expansion team was created. NBA should ought to want in so that city has all four major sports teams. They'll have to be in the pacific division though. Maybe the Suns will transfer to the Southwest Div

Add Seattle back in the mix and they good to go. Two new teams being created as I can't see what other franchise don't want their team in their city currently.

[Kernewek]

Dallas said they won't help anyone get Kyrie in a sign and trade. They will not co-operate. So no way MIA can get Kyrie this summer. Or Phoenix.

then they lose him for nothing which is just dumb

To which team do you think?

What about Phoenix?

But Phoenix can’t get him without help either, no? Even with few on their roster, they’ll still need a S&T or some significant movement to be able to sign him outright without help.

I guess it depends on what kind of deal we think is out there for him - honestly I was thinking that any team would be stupid to sign Kyrie to more than a league minimum deal, but you're right that he probably demands more than that.

[Moranis]

I figured I bring up this question here, as it may be short lived. Las Vegas has an NHL team, an NFL team, and recently approved public funding for the Athletics MLB team. Does the NBA want in? Is yes, will it be part of relocating a team? Or possibly, add a team in Vegas and go back and add one in Seattle?

Isn't it a fairly known fact that Lebron James is going to own (at least partly) a Las Vegas NBA team.

[Kernewek]

I figured I bring up this question here, as it may be short lived. Las Vegas has an NHL team, an NFL team, and recently approved public funding for the Athletics MLB team. Does the NBA want in? Is yes, will it be part of relocating a team? Or possibly, add a team in Vegas and go back and add one in Seattle?

Isn't it a fairly known fact that Lebron James is going to own (at least partly) a Las Vegas NBA team.

It's a fact in that he's said that he would want it to happen a couple of times, yes.

Of course, the NBA has ties to Vegas and if there's one current player who could feasibly be an owner, it's LeBron. I wouldn't be surprised, in other words, but I'm not sure it's settled yet.