CelticsStrong
Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: Phantom255x on June 06, 2018, 11:39:37 AM
-
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/stephen-smith-lists-celtics-one-teams-lebron-james-will-talk-summer
Stephen A. Smith lists Celtics as one of the teams LeBron James will talk with this summer
During a segment on ESPN's "First Take," Stephen A. Smith listed the Boston Celtics as one of the teams he thinks LeBron James will have a conversation with as a free agent.
Smith said, "LeBron James is going to have a conversation with the Cleveland Cavaliers. They can offer him the most, and they are willing to do anything they can to keep him here, etc. etc., and obviously the wife is going to have a major, major say in things. So you got that going on. He's going to have a conversation with Boston. He's going to have a conversation with Philly. Obviously the Lakers. Houston's in the mix as well. They are going to go after him. Make no mistake about it."
"So you got Cleveland, Philly, Boston, Houston, LA, Golden State... I don't think there's anything Miami can do, but obviously because he was there and brought them two championships. Pat Riley made amends with Dwyane Wade, and you know how LeBron feels about D-Wade. Those are all conversations he's going to have. Those are the seven teams."
James has an opt-out clause after this season, which we will certainly exercise. Danny Ainge and the Celtics would have to get very creative if this was indeed an option with their cap situation.
(Insert Isaiah Thomas Twitter Eyeball Emojis)
-
Let's make it happen. I hope Boston can beat out Golden State for his services.
-
Let's make it happen. I hope Boston can beat out Golden State for his services.
Yeah I REALLY DOUBT it's between Golden State and Boston lol. They both are probably the least likely of the 7 to get James if we were talking odds/betting.
-
This is not a report, it's what Steven A. Smith thinks and ... I don't put much credence in that.
Standard aggregator nothing-burger.
-
Makes sense from LBJ's standpoint.
He wants more titles, you meet with the teams that have the talent you can compete for a title with. I don't think CLE/MIA/LA fit that criteria at the moment, but LA could get there with 2 max slots and trades and CLE/MIA are legacy members.
-
This is not a report, it's what Steven A. Smith thinks and ... I don't put much credence in that.
Standard aggregator nothing-burger.
At least it gives Celtics fans drama to talk about for the next two days in a relatively boring period between now and the draft/FA :P
-
Let's make it happen. I hope Boston can beat out Golden State for his services.
Yeah I REALLY DOUBT it's between Golden State and Boston lol. They both are probably the least likely of the 7 to get James if we were talking odds/betting.
Going to any other team on the list besides Boston or Golden State gives him a worse chance of winning titles.
-
It is worth noting that Lowe and other reporters have repeatedly ruled out BOS out of hand for LBJ in the past.
Rumor mill is going to go crazy once GSW close out the Finals.
-
I think a starting lineup of Irving, Brown, James, Tatum, and Horford could win three titles.
-
This obviously would have to be done via sign and trade since we don’t have cap space. I imagine either Horford or Hayward would have to be part of the deal due to their salaries. I can’t see James playing with Irving again though.
-
This obviously would have to be done via sign and trade since we don’t have cap space. I imagine either Horford or Hayward would have to be part of the deal due to their salaries. I can’t see James playing with Irving again though.
Yeah, that's the part that doesn't make a ton of sense. Lot of issues to work out between LBJ being such a rival to BOS and also with Kyrie.
I don't think we're a serious possibility as a destination, not unless some very strange politicking and heart to hearts happen with LBJ/Kyrie to setup reuniting.
-
We have Too Much to lose from meeting with lebron. Anyone remember Crowder hated that we told Durant too much about our strategy ?
Crowder was one of the Celtics who visited with Durant during his free agency in an attempt to lure him to Boston. During the process, Crowder fears the team told Durant too much, and now he has that information at Golden State.
"We were the only team in the NBA to beat (Cleveland and Golden State) on their home court. The only team in the NBA, the Boston Celtics," Crowder told MassLive.com. "We told him that. We played him clips from both games and told him basically the scouting report of how we guarded Steph (Curry) and Klay (Thompson) — our entire game plan, basically. That's what made me mad. We f—ing told him everything we do to beat these guys, and we beat them, and he went and joined them. ...
"Afterward, I was talking to Isaiah (Thomas), like maybe after you sit back, (we) shouldn't have told him everything, but who the f— thought he was going to Golden State, realistically? It was like a slap in the face for us, basically."
-
If LeBron wants to win more titles, his best chance is on a team in the Eastern Conference with superior, younger talent than what he has in Cleveland. He should be looking to go somewhere that already has a player on the team who can carry a lot of the burden so he doesn't have to do it all he time. But that player has to also be able to work with LeBron's game when LeBron is running the show.
The trouble is it's hard to find players like that.
Playing alongside Giannis doesn't make much sense, nor does playing with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid.
Victor Oladipo has already demonstrated he struggles in a system that keeps the ball out of his hands for long stretches and doesn't let him stay engaged and attacking frequently.
I think it'd make the most sense for LeBron to play alongside one of the do-it-all big men like Davis, Towns, or Jokic. Aldridge is too long in the tooth. Kristaps would be an interesting option if he weren't injured.
Unless Houston finds a way to do a sign-and-trade, I think LeBron ends up going somewhere that doesn't give him a better chance at titles but does give him a chance to expand his brand.
That probably means L.A.
-
We have Too Much to lose from meeting with lebron. Anyone remember Crowder hated that we told Durant too much about our strategy ?
What?
I don't think any FA pitch is giving away super secret basketball techniques. Mostly because they do not exist.
-
That probably means L.A.
LA with PG and another piece or three that they trade for is my current prediction as well.
Maybe Kawhi instead of PG, a LOT Of people in the league think Kawhi is going to end up in LA with either Clippers or Lakers.
-
We have Too Much to lose from meeting with lebron. Anyone remember Crowder hated that we told Durant too much about our strategy ?
What?
I don't think any FA pitch is giving away super secret basketball techniques. Mostly because they do not exist.
how would you know? You’re not in the nba and crowder is
Crowder was one of the Celtics who visited with Durant during his free agency in an attempt to lure him to Boston. During the process, Crowder fears the team told Durant too much, and now he has that information at Golden State.
"We were the only team in the NBA to beat (Cleveland and Golden State) on their home court. The only team in the NBA, the Boston Celtics," Crowder told MassLive.com. "We told him that. We played him clips from both games and told him basically the scouting report of how we guarded Steph (Curry) and Klay (Thompson) — our entire game plan, basically. That's what made me mad. We f—ing told him everything we do to beat these guys, and we beat them, and he went and joined them. ...
"Afterward, I was talking to Isaiah (Thomas), like maybe after you sit back, (we) shouldn't have told him everything, but who the f— thought he was going to Golden State, realistically? It was like a slap in the face for us, basically."
-
We have Too Much to lose from meeting with lebron. Anyone remember Crowder hated that we told Durant too much about our strategy ?
What?
I don't think any FA pitch is giving away super secret basketball techniques. Mostly because they do not exist.
how would you know? You’re not in the nba and crowder is
Okay cool.
Let me know when you think my opinion is good enough to discuss basketball. I'll work on my vertical till then.
Anyways scarcasm aside, if you don't think Kevin Durant has access to Celtics/GSW game film I don't know what to tell you.
-
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/stephen-smith-lists-celtics-one-teams-lebron-james-will-talk-summer
Stephen A. Smith lists Celtics as one of the teams LeBron James will talk with this summer
During a segment on ESPN's "First Take," Stephen A. Smith listed the Boston Celtics as one of the teams he thinks LeBron James will have a conversation with as a free agent.
Smith said, "LeBron James is going to have a conversation with the Cleveland Cavaliers. They can offer him the most, and they are willing to do anything they can to keep him here, etc. etc., and obviously the wife is going to have a major, major say in things. So you got that going on. He's going to have a conversation with Boston. He's going to have a conversation with Philly. Obviously the Lakers. Houston's in the mix as well. They are going to go after him. Make no mistake about it."
"So you got Cleveland, Philly, Boston, Houston, LA, Golden State... I don't think there's anything Miami can do, but obviously because he was there and brought them two championships. Pat Riley made amends with Dwyane Wade, and you know how LeBron feels about D-Wade. Those are all conversations he's going to have. Those are the seven teams."
James has an opt-out clause after this season, which we will certainly exercise. Danny Ainge and the Celtics would have to get very creative if this was indeed an option with their cap situation.
(Insert Isaiah Thomas Twitter Eyeball Emojis)
It is pure speculation at best
If Celts bring in Lebron, Kyrie is out
Celts will be known as a team that cares didly squat about their players ....
Danny is pretty sly, but he cant be that stupid
-
We have Too Much to lose from meeting with lebron. Anyone remember Crowder hated that we told Durant too much about our strategy ?
What?
I don't think any FA pitch is giving away super secret basketball techniques. Mostly because they do not exist.
how would you know? You’re not in the nba and crowder is
Okay cool.
Let me know when you think my opinion is good enough to discuss basketball. I'll work on my vertical till then.
Anyways scarcasm aside, if you don't think Kevin Durant has access to Celtics/GSW game film I don't know what to tell you.
lol
I mean you aren’t involved in the free agent process, and neither am I, but I can say crowder was there and he says we told Durant our game plan...
Are you saying crowder being mad was uncalled for? Or you think there he might have at least a little justification for it?
From the quote it seems crowder was livid about it
-
Crowder was livid they tried to replace him. He was similarly livid when we did replace him with Gordon Hayward. Didn't like the fact that an all-star and MVP respectively were coveted by the C's to upgrade his position. Its fine that he was mad, he's also being petty/silly about that particular complaint.
FWIW Hayward talked about how Brad talked through how they would use him, put him in positions to be better, and how he could get better as part of the FA pitch that landed him.
I imagine all of the "secrets" we spilled to Durant were similar in nature. Showing how the C's would have used Durant to contend for a title. None of it was really secret or sensitive, just part of the pitch.
LBJ has seen every defensive scheme against the P&R that exists, I'm not worried we'd spill some new brilliant scheme Brad just came up with in the shower this morning.
-
Kyrie an't sharing with him
-
It won't happen.
It would be kind of fun, though, to see how the Forum commenters who call him "LeBum" and "LeBrick" would react to LeBron putting on the green.
-
It would be kind of fun to see LeBron come here just to see how the Forum commenters who call him "LeBum" and "LeBrick" would react.
:laugh:
We already saw this with Kyrie, I know my opinion changed on exactly how good he is/was.
:laugh:
-
If he stays healthy , he could win 2-4 titles with Boston give the pieces Boston has now , and they don't have to give up nothing to get him , with Lebron no trade clause .
Warriors would get stomped , thtas for sure. Lebron negates KG and adds some. .
I just can't get my mindaround him WANTiNG to play in Boston
Houston and Boston are his quickest routes to titles .
Lakers will take a while to sort things out .
I don't see him going to GS or Boston
All the screw up that drives him wild with frustration would disappear,on CBS team. He has to know this now ....he can't coach and be everything all the time. j
-
What does Stephen A Smith know?
Lebum is probably like "Im going to do what?"
Celts have no capspace
Why would you even need CBS then?
Lebron is the biggest hog, I follow no system pre madonna of a player
-
This is absolutely a pipedream but you have to take the meeting if you can get one. For the best player in the world to meet with you I'm sure it goes a long way toward future recruitment. If LBJ tells other players good things about the C's then it opens up more eyes with players since it's a huge fraternity. I'm ok with the C's not having a chance I would rather LBJ see what the C's are all about and tell other players for future years that we made need to recruit a FA.
-
One thing is for sure if he signs with GSW, nobody will be able to win a game vs them in the playoffs. Good luck guarding Curry, Durant and James, it would be the most fierce offensive juggernaut in the history of the NBA and from a competitive standpoint, the league would suffer as a result. It would be beyond All Star team quality.
If he joined us it would be sick as well. Wonder which of Hayward or Horford would go in a sign and trade and which young player they would demand from us- Brown or Tatum or Kings pick?
I still think he ends up in Philly but Danny will try a hail mary for sure, you can count on that. Imagine being a fly on that wall during that meeting.
-
$28.2 million is the magic number. Given the cap forecast, the Celtics would need to send out $28.2 million to acquire LeBron in a sign-and-trade. Hayward is the obvious fit, but that makes me feel dirty. So I’m going with Kyrie, Morris, and Yabusele.
That said, I’m in the “I’d rather beat LeBron camp.” He’s eliminated us in 5 of our last 6 playoff series, and I want to slay that dragon.
-
We have Too Much to lose from meeting with lebron. Anyone remember Crowder hated that we told Durant too much about our strategy ?
What?
I don't think any FA pitch is giving away super secret basketball techniques. Mostly because they do not exist.
how would you know? You’re not in the nba and crowder is
I'm sure even a below average NBA coach and his staff can figure out tendencies from watching game footage. Sometimes, it's not just knowing the strategy, but having the players who could execute the game plan. I'm sure, most teams were aware of what coach Stevens was doing, but maybe they didn't have the right pieces to make it work for themselves.
It reminds me of one of Larry Bird's greatest trash talking moments. Where he told Xavier McDaniel out of a timeout, where he was going to get the ball and where he was going to shoot it. Even with that information, the X man still couldn't prevent Larry from scoring on the exact play that was described to him.
-
One thing is for sure if he signs with GSW, nobody will be able to win a game vs them in the playoffs. Good luck guarding Curry, Durant and James, it would be the most fierce offensive juggernaut in the history of the NBA and from a competitive standpoint, the league would suffer as a result. It would be beyond All Star team quality.
If he joined us it would be sick as well. Wonder which of Hayward or Horford would go in a sign and trade and which young player they would demand from us- Brown or Tatum or Kings pick?
I still think he ends up in Philly but Danny will try a hail mary for sure, you can count on that. Imagine being a fly on that wall during that meeting.
I honestly think the league would lose a lot of money if he went to golden state. The NBA would possibly consider veto-ing the deal under some protection of the league's finance policy. That team would go 78-4 and 16-0 or 15-1 in the playoffs. Just the sheer lost volume of playoff games would cause the league salary cap to decline more than the 2-3 million it did last season.
-
I think a starting lineup of Irving, Brown, James, Tatum, and Horford could win three titles.
I think Irving - Brown - James - Tatum - Horford is a better lineup than Steph - Klay - Durant - Green - McGee.
Not to mention, CBS is probably better then Kerr.
-
I do believe any interest from Boston has to start with talking to Kyrie first, as he is part of the long-term future. However, my idea below is based on two players talking before free agency begins.
I wrote this earlier today in another thread, but it may actually fit better here.
What if LeBron calls Kyrie personally, and asks about his time so far in Boston, especially dealing with ownership, Danny, and coach Stevens. Maybe Kyrie didn't necessarily have an issue with LeBron, but more so the relationship between LeBron and the power that came with "we'll do what ever you want LeBron" attitude that the Cleveland team gave him. After all, it was the Cleveland team that pushed Kyrie aside when the opportunity to sign LeBron was a reality.
What if LeBron just misses playing on a team with other good players and a stable organization, like his time in Miami. And explains to Kyrie that he understands that he (Kyrie) is the leader of the team, and is willing to sacrifice by taking the full MLE.
Obviously, the chances LeBron signing with Boston are slim to none, but it is a fun exercise. I feel that everyone just assumes that LeBron and Kyrie have no relationship anymore and thought that this could be a curious angle of how LeBron might end up in Boston.
-
I do believe any interest from Boston has to start with talking to Kyrie first, as he is part of the long-term future. However, my idea below is based on two players talking before free agency begins.
I wrote this earlier today in another thread, but it may actually fit better here.
What if LeBron calls Kyrie personally, and asks about his time so far in Boston, especially dealing with ownership, Danny, and coach Stevens. Maybe Kyrie didn't necessarily have an issue with LeBron, but more so the relationship between LeBron and the power that came with "we'll do what ever you want LeBron" attitude that the Cleveland team gave him. After all, it was the Cleveland team that pushed Kyrie aside when the opportunity to sign LeBron was a reality.
What if LeBron just misses playing on a team with other good players and a stable organization, like his time in Miami. And explains to Kyrie that he understands that he (Kyrie) is the leader of the team, and is willing to sacrifice by taking the full MLE.
Obviously, the chances LeBron signing with Boston are slim to none, but it is a fun exercise. I feel that everyone just assumes that LeBron and Kyrie have no relationship anymore and thought that this could be a curious angle of how LeBron might end up in Boston.
I'm in the camp that LeBron has no ill will to Kyrie, and same goes for Kyrie. But no way in hell is LeBron signing for anything less than a max, and no way could we even accommodate signing him as a free agent. Would have to happen if he's traded.
-
It's one thing for sure. The team that LBJ wants to join most, is likely to be one that will have him, no matter what cap space they have or what their odds are. It's going to be what James decides, just like about everything in this league nowdays.
-
$28.2 million is the magic number. Given the cap forecast, the Celtics would need to send out $28.2 million to acquire LeBron in a sign-and-trade. Hayward is the obvious fit, but that makes me feel dirty.
Zach Lowe in one of his podcasts said if the C's need a big salary for a blockbuster the impression he got would be Hayward not Horford/Kyrie would be the one. :-X
-
I do believe any interest from Boston has to start with talking to Kyrie first, as he is part of the long-term future. However, my idea below is based on two players talking before free agency begins.
I wrote this earlier today in another thread, but it may actually fit better here.
What if LeBron calls Kyrie personally, and asks about his time so far in Boston, especially dealing with ownership, Danny, and coach Stevens. Maybe Kyrie didn't necessarily have an issue with LeBron, but more so the relationship between LeBron and the power that came with "we'll do what ever you want LeBron" attitude that the Cleveland team gave him. After all, it was the Cleveland team that pushed Kyrie aside when the opportunity to sign LeBron was a reality.
What if LeBron just misses playing on a team with other good players and a stable organization, like his time in Miami. And explains to Kyrie that he understands that he (Kyrie) is the leader of the team, and is willing to sacrifice by taking the full MLE.
Obviously, the chances LeBron signing with Boston are slim to none, but it is a fun exercise. I feel that everyone just assumes that LeBron and Kyrie have no relationship anymore and thought that this could be a curious angle of how LeBron might end up in Boston.
Agreed- This and ownership running it by Kyrie first to get his thoughts on the matter. If Kyrie says no way, then Danny has to nix it in the bud unless he is willing to lose Kyrie without any guarantee Lebron signs with us.
If Kyrie and Lebron did get on the same page and excited about facing off vs GSW yearly together with a better supporting cast then before, then fireworks the likes we have not seen could and would happen. I don't think this is as impossible as we think.
-
If LeBron wants to win more titles, his best chance is on a team in the Eastern Conference with superior, younger talent than what he has in Cleveland. He should be looking to go somewhere that already has a player on the team who can carry a lot of the burden so he doesn't have to do it all he time. But that player has to also be able to work with LeBron's game when LeBron is running the show.
The trouble is it's hard to find players like that.
Playing alongside Giannis doesn't make much sense, nor does playing with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid.
Victor Oladipo has already demonstrated he struggles in a system that keeps the ball out of his hands for long stretches and doesn't let him stay engaged and attacking frequently.
You definitely threw me for a loop with your answer after that. I was convinced that you were making the argument for LeBron to play with Irving and the Celtics. A player that can carry the load and who LeBron can play with? How about Kyrie?
-
$28.2 million is the magic number. Given the cap forecast, the Celtics would need to send out $28.2 million to acquire LeBron in a sign-and-trade. Hayward is the obvious fit, but that makes me feel dirty. So I’m going with Kyrie, Morris, and Yabusele.
That said, I’m in the “I’d rather beat LeBron camp.” He’s eliminated us in 5 of our last 6 playoff series, and I want to slay that dragon.
I too would enjoy slaying the dragon but I also wouldn't mind jumping on his back for the next five years and winning 3 plus titles :) Kind of torn but either way, i can live with the result unless he joins the Warriors or Sixers.
Watch Riley pull another rabbit out of his hat and assemble another super team in Miami again for him- that would be barfable as well.
-
Another reason for Ainge to try...is to keep him away from Philly.
-
I think he should give Minnesota serious consideration. Maybe a Wiggins for LeBron swap would work for both sides?
Teague / Jones
Butler
James
Gibson / Patton
Towns / Dieng
Still thinks he somehow ends up in Houston with Harden/Paul/Capela...gunna be tough for them to figure that out financially but ultimately it would be good to have another super team like that who can take down the warriors.
-
$28.2 million is the magic number. Given the cap forecast, the Celtics would need to send out $28.2 million to acquire LeBron in a sign-and-trade. Hayward is the obvious fit, but that makes me feel dirty.
Zach Lowe in one of his podcasts said if the C's need a big salary for a blockbuster the impression he got would be Hayward not Horford/Kyrie would be the one. :-X
Zach Lowe isn’t thinking big enough. LeBron-Hayward-Brown-Tatum-Horford would pretty much be the pinnacle of positionless basketball.
-
Irving back to Cleveland and LBJ to Boston?
Rozier/Smart
Hayward/Brown
LBJ/Morris
Tatum/Thesis
AL/Baynes
-
Irving back to Cleveland and LBJ to Boston?
Rozier/Smart
Hayward/Brown
LBJ/Morris
Tatum/Thesis
AL/Baynes
Danny Ainge would officially be the most ruthless GM in the history of sports if he pulled the trigger on that. You thought Isaiah Thomas hated Ainge? Imagine if he traded Kyrie BACK to Cleveland. LOL.
-
The more you think about it
This is a smokescreen to cause mayham and drama
I hope Danny and Irving dont fall for this
-
Irving back to Cleveland and LBJ to Boston?
Rozier/Smart
Hayward/Brown
LBJ/Morris
Tatum/Thesis
AL/Baynes
Brown starts, LBJ is the de facto PG.
-
Listening to Zolak and Bert
The callers all have Lebron fever
*facepalm*
Clap clap... fall for this smokescreen and possibly upset Irving
-
What about rather than Kyrie back to Cleveland, it's a three team trade, something along the lines of Kyrie to New York, James to Boston and players/picks to Cleveland...
-
What about rather than Kyrie back to Cleveland, it's a three team trade, something along the lines of Kyrie to New York, James to Boston and players/picks to Cleveland...
Are you joking?
This is a smokescreen
-
I'd rather have Kyrie than LeBron. I plan on being an old man when Kyrie retires in green as opposed to James in 4yrs.
I wouldn't even meet with him. Tell him to take his talents to whatever team we're going to beat next year.
-
We gonna have to dump two of Kyrie, Hayward, and Horford for that to happen. And we know Kyrie can't coexist with LeBron.
-
This has all the earmarks of NBA click bait.
-
We gonna have to dump two of Kyrie, Hayward, and Horford for that to happen. And we know Kyrie can't coexist with LeBron.
Not true at all..
Hayward+Yabusele+ Nader works.
-
We gonna have to dump two of Kyrie, Hayward, and Horford for that to happen. And we know Kyrie can't coexist with LeBron.
Not true at all..
Hayward+Yabusele+ Nader works.
Hayward works by himself.
-
I think the title of this post should be edited from “Report” to “Stephen A. Smith”.
-
Ughhh. I don't want to be part of the LeBron circus.
-
"Talk":
Ainge: Hey, Bron, you gonna play for the MLE?
LeBron: Ne-ah.
Ainge: K, thanks, bye, see ya in the finals.
-
We gonna have to dump two of Kyrie, Hayward, and Horford for that to happen. And we know Kyrie can't coexist with LeBron.
Not true at all..
Hayward+Yabusele+ Nader works.
Hayward works by himself.
Yeah, but I wanted to throw in Yabusele so he could teach the rest of the Cavs bench how to dab properly. :angel:
"Talk":
Ainge: Hey, Bron, you gonna play for the MLE?
LeBron: Ne-ah.
Ainge: K, thanks, bye, see ya in the finals.
Pretty much what is gonna be the gist of the conversation.
-
Clickbait title lol. What Stephen A Smith thinks is not a report.
-
lol at this thread about something Stephen A. Smith just made up.
Why anyone gives him the time of day, I've never known.
-
lol at this thread about something Stephen A. Smith just made up.
Why anyone gives him the time of day, I've never known.
I dont think he made it up. He works for Espn not nbarumors.com
But just flipping info like that....without thought . Just to create buzz
Helps Lebron cause chaos for Durant, Irving. Lebron is a dirtbag. He cant stand not being the center of attention
He wont join the Celtics next season. He might try to talk to Danny to see what intel he can gather.... if Danny doest want to mess up a good thing right now....he should make it public that Celts dont intend to speak to Lebron (after the finals)
-
This has all the earmarks of NBA click bait.
Oh, it absolutely is. SAS is just doing his job grabbing viewers.
But, if Lebron wanted to compete with the Warriors immediately, is there really a better team in the NBA for him to try to join? If Cleveland would go for a Hayward trade (a player they've been linked to in the past), you've got a team that has five stellar options in the starting lineup, plus a deep bench.
-
This has all the earmarks of NBA click bait.
Oh, it absolutely is. SAS is just doing his job grabbing viewers.
But, if Lebron wanted to compete with the Warriors immediately, is there really a better team in the NBA for him to try to join? If Cleveland would go for a Hayward trade (a player they've been linked to in the past), you've got a team that has five stellar options in the starting lineup, plus a deep bench.
You trade Hayward (in this situation), say goodbye to CBS
-
This has all the earmarks of NBA click bait.
Oh, it absolutely is. SAS is just doing his job grabbing viewers.
But, if Lebron wanted to compete with the Warriors immediately, is there really a better team in the NBA for him to try to join? If Cleveland would go for a Hayward trade (a player they've been linked to in the past), you've got a team that has five stellar options in the starting lineup, plus a deep bench.
You trade Hayward, say goodbye to CBS
I doubt that very much. Stevens is loyal to the Celtics, not Hayward.
-
This has all the earmarks of NBA click bait.
Oh, it absolutely is. SAS is just doing his job grabbing viewers.
But, if Lebron wanted to compete with the Warriors immediately, is there really a better team in the NBA for him to try to join? If Cleveland would go for a Hayward trade (a player they've been linked to in the past), you've got a team that has five stellar options in the starting lineup, plus a deep bench.
You trade Hayward, say goodbye to CBS
I doubt that very much. Stevens is loyal to the Celtics, not Hayward.
Disagree
He has a history with Hayward
He put in extra im sure to entice him to join
Then trade Hayward (to Cleveland of all places) bc of Lebron?
Lol
-
This has all the earmarks of NBA click bait.
Oh, it absolutely is. SAS is just doing his job grabbing viewers.
But, if Lebron wanted to compete with the Warriors immediately, is there really a better team in the NBA for him to try to join? If Cleveland would go for a Hayward trade (a player they've been linked to in the past), you've got a team that has five stellar options in the starting lineup, plus a deep bench.
You trade Hayward, say goodbye to CBS
I doubt that very much. Stevens is loyal to the Celtics, not Hayward.
Disagree
He has a history with Hayward
He put in extra im sure to entice him to join
Then trade Hayward (to Cleveland of all places) bc of Lebron?
Lol
Sure he's got a history with Hayward.
He's got a history with all kinds of players. He has yet to resign from the Celtics because of Danny's decision to trade / cut ties with any of them.
-
Would Cleveland accept a trade of James Johnson + Dion Waiters + Justice Winslow for Lebron opted into his player option next year?
Then Miami starts Dragic, Tyler Johnson, Josh Richardson, Lebron, and Whiteside? With Wade (resigned) and Olynyk playing the key roles off the bench. Not bad, maybe better than what he has now, but not blowing me away.
Can Miami do any better than that? I don't imagine that's Lebron's best situation out of all of his options. Miami doesn't have a 2018 or 2021 first round pick to continue growing their future talent pool with nor even a second round pick until 2022, although they could buy a few.
-
Would Cleveland accept a trade of James Johnson + Dion Waiters + Justice Winslow for Lebron opted into his player option next year?
Then Miami starts Dragic, Tyler Johnson, Josh Richardson, Lebron, and Whiteside? With Wade (resigned) and Olynyk playing the key roles off the bench. Not bad, maybe better than what he has now, but not blowing me away.
Can Miami do any better than that? I don't imagine that's Lebron's best situation out of all of his options. Miami doesn't have a 2018 or 2021 first round pick to continue growing their future talent pool with nor even a second round pick until 2022, although they could buy a few.
Miami is always a dark horse. Always.
Bam looks like a good piece. Winslow is still a young asset. Maybe someone out there likes Whiteside (I don't). Johnson, Richardson, Dragic, and Olynyk are good role players. They have the contracts and the pieces to make it happen.
If they were somehow able to trade for Leonard and James, while keeping Bam, Dragic, Waiters, Johnson, and Olynyk, that would be a really good team.
I don't think they have the ability to make it happen yet, but they are always a dark horse.
-
BARF.
-
I think it was something to stir the pot, however, I was just remarking that no national stories were outside of Boston. It happened soon after, and I know it had nothing to do with it but wow.
-
This has all the earmarks of NBA click bait.
Oh, it absolutely is. SAS is just doing his job grabbing viewers.
But, if Lebron wanted to compete with the Warriors immediately, is there really a better team in the NBA for him to try to join? If Cleveland would go for a Hayward trade (a player they've been linked to in the past), you've got a team that has five stellar options in the starting lineup, plus a deep bench.
You trade Hayward (in this situation), say goodbye to CBS
So CBS would turn down his dream job, and one of the best positions to be in, simply because one of his favorite players got traded? You don't think Stevens felt some modicum of empathy and emotion with Isaiah Thomas, when he got traded too?
-
Never going to happen him coming to Boston.
-
Would Cleveland accept a trade of James Johnson + Dion Waiters + Justice Winslow for Lebron opted into his player option next year?
Then Miami starts Dragic, Tyler Johnson, Josh Richardson, Lebron, and Whiteside? With Wade (resigned) and Olynyk playing the key roles off the bench. Not bad, maybe better than what he has now, but not blowing me away.
Can Miami do any better than that? I don't imagine that's Lebron's best situation out of all of his options. Miami doesn't have a 2018 or 2021 first round pick to continue growing their future talent pool with nor even a second round pick until 2022, although they could buy a few.
I really don’t think they would. Cleveland is set to be a repeater tax team next year if LeBron stays — and fairly far above the tax line. If they take back $20+ million in salaries from a LeBron trade, they’ll be into the tax by a decent amount. There’s no way they sign up for that without LeBron. Meanwhile, Miami has a lot of contracts that aren’t going to be dumpable since there are multiple years left on them, and cap space is very scarce next season. Miami would have to give Cleveland a lot of compensation to be willing to take on those contracts.
I know LeBron could try to power play and say he’ll just sign somewhere as a free agent if Cleveland doesn’t agree to the Miami deal, but I think the Cavs might find that preferable to what Miami can offer.
-
I'm giving them Horford and Rozier!
-
Four entertainment industry sources claims that Lebron + PG13 will join the Lakers
-
Four entertainment industry sources claims that Lebron + PG13 will join the Lakers
I never understood the “Lebron needs to be in LA to be in the entertainment industry”.
In today’s world you can be connected anywhere at any time.
-
i don't even want to have a meeting with him
might upset kyrie
and he won't come here anyway
-
lol at this thread about something Stephen A. Smith just made up.
Why anyone gives him the time of day, I've never known.
I dont think he made it up. He works for Espn not nbarumors.com
But just flipping info like that....without thought . Just to create buzz
Helps Lebron cause chaos for Durant, Irving. Lebron is a dirtbag. He cant stand not being the center of attention
He wont join the Celtics next season. He might try to talk to Danny to see what intel he can gather.... if Danny doest want to mess up a good thing right now....he should make it public that Celts dont intend to speak to Lebron (after the finals)
He's not reporting anything. He's just saying something that he thinks makes sense. There's nothing to it other than he made it up and decided to say it on air.
-
lol at this thread about something Stephen A. Smith just made up.
Why anyone gives him the time of day, I've never known.
I dont think he made it up. He works for Espn not nbarumors.com
But just flipping info like that....without thought . Just to create buzz
Helps Lebron cause chaos for Durant, Irving. Lebron is a dirtbag. He cant stand not being the center of attention
He wont join the Celtics next season. He might try to talk to Danny to see what intel he can gather.... if Danny doest want to mess up a good thing right now....he should make it public that Celts dont intend to speak to Lebron (after the finals)
He's not reporting anything. He's just saying something that he thinks makes sense. There's nothing to it other than he made it up and decided to say it on air.
Again wasnt Stephen A the first guy to report that Lebron and Bosh were going to join forces?
-
i don't even want to have a meeting with him
might upset kyrie
and he won't come here anyway
Imagine if Danny speaks to Lebron but Lebron is just browsing?
The aftermath wont be pretty
-
If he coming to the Celtics, we might have to un-retire #6 The Great Bill Russell, or #23 Frank Ramsey lol.
-
If he coming to the Celtics, we might have to un-retire #6 The Great Bill Russell, or #23 Frank Ramsey lol.
Yuck. I’d not like to see that.
Give him Jae Crowders old number ;)
-
lol at this thread about something Stephen A. Smith just made up.
Why anyone gives him the time of day, I've never known.
I dont think he made it up. He works for Espn not nbarumors.com
But just flipping info like that....without thought . Just to create buzz
Helps Lebron cause chaos for Durant, Irving. Lebron is a dirtbag. He cant stand not being the center of attention
He wont join the Celtics next season. He might try to talk to Danny to see what intel he can gather.... if Danny doest want to mess up a good thing right now....he should make it public that Celts dont intend to speak to Lebron (after the finals)
He's not reporting anything. He's just saying something that he thinks makes sense. There's nothing to it other than he made it up and decided to say it on air.
Again wasnt Stephen A the first guy to report that Lebron and Bosh were going to join forces?
Are you saying that because he got one scoop 8 years ago I should listen to every idea that comes into his mind?
-
Lebron. We're not calling you. You call us.
-
James is a unique player. He has to have the ball, and sometimes behaves like a one man team. While it's true that he can pretty much do anything he wants on the court with the ball, his play often is not conducive to team play. The other guys just stand around while he does his thing.
If a team is established and has a certain chemistry, it may be tough to adjust to him. There would have to be changes made, and some coaches may not like that. GS had no problem making Durant work, so maybe James can work elsewhere, too.
Another consideration is his age. At 34, he is going to slide soon.
-
Screw James
Good enough to win it without him
-
This is not a report, it's what Steven A. Smith thinks and ... I don't put much credence in that.
Standard aggregator nothing-burger.
What on earth does this mean and from where did said term originate?
-
Why would this story leak out when The Cavs still have games to play? If I'm one of LeBron's "supporting cast" I'd be p---ed. I also be p---ed to be continually be called "supporting cast"...
-
Screw James
Good enough to win it without him
Exactly
He just wants to mess with Kyrie and Celts
He joins the Lakers with PG13 and Paul. Makes most sense
-
Why would this story leak out when The Cavs still have games to play? If I'm one of LeBron's "supporting cast" I'd be p---ed. I also be p---ed to be continually be called "supporting cast"...
Thank you - TP :). The only term that's equally worse, imo, is whenever Shaq refers to his non-star former teammates as "the others" ::). Talk about insulting. What a joke.
-
If he coming to the Celtics, we might have to un-retire #6 The Great Bill Russell, or #23 Frank Ramsey lol.
Better not.
-
Screw James
Good enough to win it without him
Exactly
He just wants to mess with Kyrie and Celts
He joins the Lakers with PG13 and Paul. Makes most sense
No! It! Doesn't!
It makes NO financial sense
-
ESPN’s Chris Haynes was a guest on the TK Show on CLNS Media and he too says, don’t sleep on the Celtics. “Let’s not overlook the Boston Celtics,” Haynes told host Tim Kawakami. “If Boston reached out and said we’re serious, LeBron would listen.” 23 mins ago – via CLNSMedia.com
Forget that... if anything Lebron has to beg the Celtics to let him join
-
ESPN’s Chris Haynes was a guest on the TK Show on CLNS Media and he too says, don’t sleep on the Celtics. “Let’s not overlook the Boston Celtics,” Haynes told host Tim Kawakami. “If Boston reached out and said we’re serious, LeBron would listen.” 23 mins ago – via CLNSMedia.com
Forget that... if anything Lebron has to beg the Celtics to let him join
Completely disagree.
Celtics should reach out if Lebron is interested in joining the Celtics. They should have a dialog.
At the same time, they should not be willing to rip apart this team for him.
Whenever a top player shows interest in the team, it is a good thing that can translate to the MLE and less payed vets being more willing/interested to come to the team.
-
ESPN’s Chris Haynes was a guest on the TK Show on CLNS Media and he too says, don’t sleep on the Celtics. “Let’s not overlook the Boston Celtics,” Haynes told host Tim Kawakami. “If Boston reached out and said we’re serious, LeBron would listen.” 23 mins ago – via CLNSMedia.com
Forget that... if anything Lebron has to beg the Celtics to let him join
Completely disagree.
Celtics should reach out if Lebron is interested in joining the Celtics. They should have a dialog.
At the same time, they should not be willing to rip apart this team for him.
Whenever a top player shows interest in the team, it is a good thing that can translate to the MLE and less payed vets being more willing/interested to come to the team.
And alienate Irving in the process?
Beat Lebron, not join forces....
-
You know what, Ainge should tell Lebron to sign for MLE and also convince him to sign some endorsement deals (like Dunkin Donuts, etc) to make up whatever is left to make it a "max" deal :P
-
ESPN’s Chris Haynes was a guest on the TK Show on CLNS Media and he too says, don’t sleep on the Celtics. “Let’s not overlook the Boston Celtics,” Haynes told host Tim Kawakami. “If Boston reached out and said we’re serious, LeBron would listen.” 23 mins ago – via CLNSMedia.com
Forget that... if anything Lebron has to beg the Celtics to let him join
Completely disagree.
Celtics should reach out if Lebron is interested in joining the Celtics. They should have a dialog.
At the same time, they should not be willing to rip apart this team for him.
Whenever a top player shows interest in the team, it is a good thing that can translate to the MLE and less payed vets being more willing/interested to come to the team.
And alienate Irving in the process?
Beat Lebron, not join forces....
You really think any of this would happen without talking first to Irving (as well as Horford)
-
ESPN’s Chris Haynes was a guest on the TK Show on CLNS Media and he too says, don’t sleep on the Celtics. “Let’s not overlook the Boston Celtics,” Haynes told host Tim Kawakami. “If Boston reached out and said we’re serious, LeBron would listen.” 23 mins ago – via CLNSMedia.com
Forget that... if anything Lebron has to beg the Celtics to let him join
Completely disagree.
Celtics should reach out if Lebron is interested in joining the Celtics. They should have a dialog.
At the same time, they should not be willing to rip apart this team for him.
Whenever a top player shows interest in the team, it is a good thing that can translate to the MLE and less payed vets being more willing/interested to come to the team.
And alienate Irving in the process?
Beat Lebron, not join forces....
You really think any of this would happen without talking first to Irving (as well as Horford)
If you intended to trade Irving as the major salary piece of a sign-and-trade to get LeBron, you could exclude Kyrie from the conversation.
-
ESPN’s Chris Haynes was a guest on the TK Show on CLNS Media and he too says, don’t sleep on the Celtics. “Let’s not overlook the Boston Celtics,” Haynes told host Tim Kawakami. “If Boston reached out and said we’re serious, LeBron would listen.” 23 mins ago – via CLNSMedia.com
Forget that... if anything Lebron has to beg the Celtics to let him join
Completely disagree.
Celtics should reach out if Lebron is interested in joining the Celtics. They should have a dialog.
At the same time, they should not be willing to rip apart this team for him.
Whenever a top player shows interest in the team, it is a good thing that can translate to the MLE and less payed vets being more willing/interested to come to the team.
And alienate Irving in the process?
Beat Lebron, not join forces....
You really think any of this would happen without talking first to Irving (as well as Horford)
Talking to Kyrie first is like asking your friend, if its ok to date his ex girlfriend
no matter how respectfully you try, it ends up being offensive
Lets not forget why Irving wanted to leave the Cavs in the 1st place
-
ESPN’s Chris Haynes was a guest on the TK Show on CLNS Media and he too says, don’t sleep on the Celtics. “Let’s not overlook the Boston Celtics,” Haynes told host Tim Kawakami. “If Boston reached out and said we’re serious, LeBron would listen.” 23 mins ago – via CLNSMedia.com
Forget that... if anything Lebron has to beg the Celtics to let him join
Completely disagree.
Celtics should reach out if Lebron is interested in joining the Celtics. They should have a dialog.
At the same time, they should not be willing to rip apart this team for him.
Whenever a top player shows interest in the team, it is a good thing that can translate to the MLE and less payed vets being more willing/interested to come to the team.
And alienate Irving in the process?
Beat Lebron, not join forces....
You really think any of this would happen without talking first to Irving (as well as Horford)
If you intended to trade Irving as the major salary piece of a sign-and-trade to get LeBron, you could exclude Kyrie from the conversation.
One thing I realized though is that I don't think a S&T is even an option. That would mean Lebron has to opt-in like CP3 did last year with his contract, but that also means Lebron won't be able to have a "Free Agent Tour" with the other rumored 4-5 teams I believe. Is that correct?
Or is possible for Lebron to opt-out, him to "re-sign" with Cleveland at a price (like say, a small discount so it's 20-25M/Year), and THEN do a sign and trade, or that isn't possible?
(My head hurts)
-
ESPN’s Chris Haynes was a guest on the TK Show on CLNS Media and he too says, don’t sleep on the Celtics. “Let’s not overlook the Boston Celtics,” Haynes told host Tim Kawakami. “If Boston reached out and said we’re serious, LeBron would listen.” 23 mins ago – via CLNSMedia.com
Forget that... if anything Lebron has to beg the Celtics to let him join
Completely disagree.
Celtics should reach out if Lebron is interested in joining the Celtics. They should have a dialog.
At the same time, they should not be willing to rip apart this team for him.
Whenever a top player shows interest in the team, it is a good thing that can translate to the MLE and less payed vets being more willing/interested to come to the team.
And alienate Irving in the process?
Beat Lebron, not join forces....
You really think any of this would happen without talking first to Irving (as well as Horford)
If you intended to trade Irving as the major salary piece of a sign-and-trade to get LeBron, you could exclude Kyrie from the conversation.
One thing I realized though is that I don't think a S&T is even an option. That would mean Lebron has to opt-in like CP3 did last year with his contract, but that also means Lebron won't be able to have a "Free Agent Tour" with the other rumored 4-5 teams I believe. Is that correct?
Or is possible for Lebron to opt-out, him to "re-sign" with Cleveland at a price (like say, a small discount so it's 20-25M/Year), and THEN do a sign and trade, or that isn't possible?
(My head hurts)
If LeBron opts out, which is likely, sign-and-trade is an option. The Celtics would need to send out a little over $28 million in salary and stay under the hard cap of about $129 million next season. It’s not a major obstacle for the Celtics. (It is for Golden State).
-
ESPN’s Chris Haynes was a guest on the TK Show on CLNS Media and he too says, don’t sleep on the Celtics. “Let’s not overlook the Boston Celtics,” Haynes told host Tim Kawakami. “If Boston reached out and said we’re serious, LeBron would listen.” 23 mins ago – via CLNSMedia.com
Forget that... if anything Lebron has to beg the Celtics to let him join
Completely disagree.
Celtics should reach out if Lebron is interested in joining the Celtics. They should have a dialog.
At the same time, they should not be willing to rip apart this team for him.
Whenever a top player shows interest in the team, it is a good thing that can translate to the MLE and less payed vets being more willing/interested to come to the team.
And alienate Irving in the process?
Beat Lebron, not join forces....
You really think any of this would happen without talking first to Irving (as well as Horford)
If you intended to trade Irving as the major salary piece of a sign-and-trade to get LeBron, you could exclude Kyrie from the conversation.
One thing I realized though is that I don't think a S&T is even an option. That would mean Lebron has to opt-in like CP3 did last year with his contract, but that also means Lebron won't be able to have a "Free Agent Tour" with the other rumored 4-5 teams I believe. Is that correct?
Or is possible for Lebron to opt-out, him to "re-sign" with Cleveland at a price (like say, a small discount so it's 20-25M/Year), and THEN do a sign and trade, or that isn't possible?
(My head hurts)
If LeBron opts out, which is likely, sign-and-trade is an option. The Celtics would need to send out a little over $28 million in salary and stay under the hard cap of about $129 million next season. It’s not a major obstacle for the Celtics. (It is for Golden State).
@salt, I'm sure you've already heard this a ton around here, but I'm glad your back to whip us into reality regarding all the cap issues/questions ;D
That said I still feel really bad/dirty about even thinking about trading any of Kyrie/Hayward/Horford in a trade for Lebron. Then again we traded and let go of like 11 guys last summer lol.
-
ESPN’s Chris Haynes was a guest on the TK Show on CLNS Media and he too says, don’t sleep on the Celtics. “Let’s not overlook the Boston Celtics,” Haynes told host Tim Kawakami. “If Boston reached out and said we’re serious, LeBron would listen.” 23 mins ago – via CLNSMedia.com
Forget that... if anything Lebron has to beg the Celtics to let him join
Completely disagree.
Celtics should reach out if Lebron is interested in joining the Celtics. They should have a dialog.
At the same time, they should not be willing to rip apart this team for him.
Whenever a top player shows interest in the team, it is a good thing that can translate to the MLE and less payed vets being more willing/interested to come to the team.
And alienate Irving in the process?
Beat Lebron, not join forces....
You really think any of this would happen without talking first to Irving (as well as Horford)
If you intended to trade Irving as the major salary piece of a sign-and-trade to get LeBron, you could exclude Kyrie from the conversation.
One thing I realized though is that I don't think a S&T is even an option. That would mean Lebron has to opt-in like CP3 did last year with his contract, but that also means Lebron won't be able to have a "Free Agent Tour" with the other rumored 4-5 teams I believe. Is that correct?
Or is possible for Lebron to opt-out, him to "re-sign" with Cleveland at a price (like say, a small discount so it's 20-25M/Year), and THEN do a sign and trade, or that isn't possible?
(My head hurts)
If LeBron opts out, which is likely, sign-and-trade is an option. The Celtics would need to send out a little over $28 million in salary and stay under the hard cap of about $129 million next season. It’s not a major obstacle for the Celtics. (It is for Golden State).
@salt, I'm sure you've already heard this a ton around here, but I'm glad your back to whip us into reality regarding all the cap issues/questions ;D
That said I still feel really bad/dirty about even thinking about trading any of Kyrie/Hayward/Horford in a trade for Lebron. Then again we traded and let go of like 11 guys last summer lol.
I'd feel bad and have mixed feelings but Jaylen/Hayward/Tatum/Lebron/Horford could be the best defensive team ever.
-
LeBron’s Terrifyingly Plausible Path to Boston
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/6/8/17440192/lebron-james-boston-celtics-offseason
-
LeBron’s Terrifyingly Plausible Path to Boston
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/6/8/17440192/lebron-james-boston-celtics-offseason
TP!
Yep, that's the article I was referring to as well in the "Hayward not getting traded" thread.
This part is interesting:
A more feasible alternative would be including a third team in a trade and sending Kyrie to another team like the Knicks, who Yahoo Sports’ Chris Mannix mentioned as a threat to acquire Irving in free agency next summer. One trade-machine possibility that Ringer CEO Bill Simmons threw out was sending Kyrie to New York, with the Cavs getting at least two more first-round picks in the deal (no. 9 and no. 27 in this year’s draft) as well as a bunch of expiring contracts (Marcus Morris, Emmanuel Mudiay, and Enes Kanter). There are plenty of other alternatives that the Celtics and Cavs could explore, and both front offices would have the motivation to get something done.
-
Why would this story leak out when The Cavs still have games to play? If I'm one of LeBron's "supporting cast" I'd be p---ed. I also be p---ed to be continually be called "supporting cast"...
Thank you - TP :). The only term that's equally worse, imo, is whenever Shaq refers to his non-star former teammates as "the others" ::). Talk about insulting. What a joke.
yeah it rubbed me the wrong way when Shaq kept reffering to his teammates as 'the others' as well. no team wins the title with 1 guy it has been proved over and over again.
-
Stylistically it would be interesting to see Lebron transition to a Steven’s team oriented motion offense from a Lebron centric offense with spot up shooters. It might be good for him as he approaches his mid 30’s.
If it’s something like Horford’s contract and spare parts it’s tempting. Put Lebron at the PF spot. We would be in the driver’s seat for a deal as Lebron could just sign elsewhere like LA, and get nothing back in return.
It doesn’t seem right though having Lebron in a C’s jersey. Lol
-
I really don't want this to happen. I get tired of Lebron making the finals every year, but I am not a Lebron hater. He is an awesome player, one of the best ever.
But I want us to BEAT Lebron, not get him to join us.
-
The more I think about it......
Lebron choices will come down to either Rockets, 76ers or stay put
Reason for Rockets: CP3 and Harden will make a hard push. Lebron is good friends with CP3. Morey will push. D'antoni is the kind of coach that will just shut his mouth and let these three do whatever. ..He also avoids the pressure to be compared to Kobe/Shaq (as Lakers)
Reason for 76ers: Everyone is betting Griffin will be the teams new GM and for a good reason. Griffin, Simmons and Embiid will try to entice Lebron to come on board. While Simmons game may suffer a little, there are always work arounds. Take Simmons out early in the 1st quarter, and have him run the point with the 2nd unit. Rest Lebron so that he is fresh for the playoffs. Also Simmons gets to learn from the best and the player ideally he needs to try to emulate his game (long term)
Reason to say put: Wife, Kids don't want to move again. Already settled. Lebron focuses on breaking records vs contend for championships
Lebron and KD have a real rivalry going on at the moment. Lebron won all the important games at the beginning but recently its all KD. KD not only wants to beat Lebron but crush him/sweep his team.
Will Lebron stay with the Cavs and become KDs punching bag?
-
If I am the Celtics and they actually have a meeting with him, I would tell him, "This is what we've got; this is what we're willing to do." Honestly, I am not opposed to having him join; however, I don't want to get rid of anything truly significant in order to get him, which as many have pointed out, it obviously would require if we are talking about max deal dollars. With that being said, I would try to pitch a pipe dream scenario and if he takes it, great. If not, thanks for coming in. Offer him the MLE or minimum, whatever. Try to sell him on making a sacrifice for the greater good of winning or whatever. That would add a positive spin in my opinion to his legacy. Do I think he would take it? Absolutely not; nor should he feel obligated to. He is well deserving of a max deal, but it can't hurt to try.
-
I really don't want this to happen. I get tired of Lebron making the finals every year, but I am not a Lebron hater. He is an awesome player, one of the best ever.
But I want us to BEAT Lebron, not get him to join us.
it won't happen
If the Celts were healthy this season and GSW swept the CElts or easily beat the Celts in the finals..
i can see Danny do a 180 and adjust the lineup/sacrifice to bring in Lebron
This means stunting the growth of Brown/Tatum.... means Hayward takes a backseat or is traded. Horford possibly traded. Have to give up on Smart, Rozier (no money) . Risk losing Kyrie at FA
CBS has to give special treatment for Lebron etc.
Danny doesn't need to press this nuclear button this offseason because he hasn't seen the river card yet
-
If I am the Celtics and they actually have a meeting with him, I would tell him, "This is what we've got; this is what we're willing to do." Honestly, I am not opposed to having him join; however, I don't want to get rid of anything truly significant in order to get him, which as many have pointed out, it obviously would require. With that being said, I would try to pitch a pipe dream scenario and if he takes it, great. If not, thanks for coming in. Offer him the MLE or minimum, whatever. Try to sell him on making a sacrifice for the greater good of winning or whatever. That would add a positive spin in my opinion to his legacy. Do I think he would take it? Absolutely not; nor should he feel obligated to. He is well deserving of a max deal, but it can't hurt to try.
What about Irving? you think he will be happy about this
-
Stylistically it would be interesting to see Lebron transition to a Steven’s team oriented motion offense from a Lebron centric offense with spot up shooters. It might be good for him as he approaches his mid 30’s.
If it’s something like Horford’s contract and spare parts it’s tempting. Put Lebron at the PF spot. We would be in the driver’s seat for a deal as Lebron could just sign elsewhere like LA, and get nothing back in return.
It doesn’t seem right though having Lebron in a C’s jersey. Lol
Irving forced his way out of Cleveland. He isn’t going to want to stay here to rejoin LBJ. Simmons had an idea that might work financially and with the Irving issue - Irving to Knicks, various pieces and draft picks to Cavs. Cavs would hate it of course. But what’s their alternative?
-
If I am the Celtics and they actually have a meeting with him, I would tell him, "This is what we've got; this is what we're willing to do." Honestly, I am not opposed to having him join; however, I don't want to get rid of anything truly significant in order to get him, which as many have pointed out, it obviously would require. With that being said, I would try to pitch a pipe dream scenario and if he takes it, great. If not, thanks for coming in. Offer him the MLE or minimum, whatever. Try to sell him on making a sacrifice for the greater good of winning or whatever. That would add a positive spin in my opinion to his legacy. Do I think he would take it? Absolutely not; nor should he feel obligated to. He is well deserving of a max deal, but it can't hurt to try.
What about Irving? you think he will be happy about this
If he wants a meeting with Boston, I believe the Cs would talk with Kyrie before setting anything up. I really don't think the "friction" between the two was all it was cracked up to be. I have been reading LarBrd's posts concerning this and I tend to agree with his view on this particular subject. I would also let Lebron know what the system in Boston is all about, get his view on it, see if he can take part in it, etc. Let him know you respect him as a player, but as I said in my initial post, "This is what we've got, this is what we can do." If he can't see himself fitting in, then it was nice talking, good luck wherever you end up. Again, I don't think it's an absolute great shot that LBJ comes to Boston, but I don't think it's very close to slim-to-none either. I'm sure he took note of what has been going on with the organization, the talent, the promise, etc. I don't think he is ignoring or not giving it some sort of consideration.
-
If I am the Celtics and they actually have a meeting with him, I would tell him, "This is what we've got; this is what we're willing to do." Honestly, I am not opposed to having him join; however, I don't want to get rid of anything truly significant in order to get him, which as many have pointed out, it obviously would require. With that being said, I would try to pitch a pipe dream scenario and if he takes it, great. If not, thanks for coming in. Offer him the MLE or minimum, whatever. Try to sell him on making a sacrifice for the greater good of winning or whatever. That would add a positive spin in my opinion to his legacy. Do I think he would take it? Absolutely not; nor should he feel obligated to. He is well deserving of a max deal, but it can't hurt to try.
What about Irving? you think he will be happy about this
If he wants a meeting with Boston, I believe the Cs would talk with Kyrie before setting anything up. I really don't think the "friction" between the two was all it was cracked up to be. I have been reading LarBrd's posts concerning this and I tend to agree with his view on this particular subject. I would also let Lebron know what the system in Boston is all about, get his view on it, see if he can take part in it, etc. Let him know you respect him as a player, but as I said in my initial post, "This is what we've got, this is what we can do." If he can't see himself fitting in, then it was nice talking, good luck wherever you end up. Again, I don't think it's an absolute great shot that LBJ comes to Boston, but I don't think it's very close to slim-to-none either. I'm sure he took note of what has been going on with the organization, the talent, the promise, etc. I don't think he is ignoring or not giving it some sort of consideration.
even asking Kyrie prior is a risk....think about it
he left because of Lebron and his diva ways.
Also asking Lebron to tame his diva/control freak ways and listen to the coach etc. ....well goodluck with that
IF lebron joins or wants to be recruited by the Celts, he wants to know what they will do for him and not the other way around. How he will get his max, who will be traded, if the coach will give him freedom, the team give him leeway etc.
Can't see this happening with the pieces in place. IF the Celts were mid tier, with Rivers as still the coach and Danny under the gun to make something happen. Then yes... i can see management possibly bending/sacrificing for Lebron
-
If I am the Celtics and they actually have a meeting with him, I would tell him, "This is what we've got; this is what we're willing to do." Honestly, I am not opposed to having him join; however, I don't want to get rid of anything truly significant in order to get him, which as many have pointed out, it obviously would require. With that being said, I would try to pitch a pipe dream scenario and if he takes it, great. If not, thanks for coming in. Offer him the MLE or minimum, whatever. Try to sell him on making a sacrifice for the greater good of winning or whatever. That would add a positive spin in my opinion to his legacy. Do I think he would take it? Absolutely not; nor should he feel obligated to. He is well deserving of a max deal, but it can't hurt to try.
What about Irving? you think he will be happy about this
Are we sure the sole reason Irving left was because of Lebron? I always felt it was more he hated the toxic front office and that same front office tried to trade him before he heard and ultimately demanded out.
I'm sure there was some tension between Kyrie and Lebron, but I don't think it was massive tension.
Think about it, is it really a coincidence that Ty Lue and Kevin Love had to miss time this season due to stress-related health issues (and pains)? Lebron absolutely hates that FO too but he's also the reason the Cavaliers are even relevant. W/o him, it's like "does that franchise exist?"
-
If I am the Celtics and they actually have a meeting with him, I would tell him, "This is what we've got; this is what we're willing to do." Honestly, I am not opposed to having him join; however, I don't want to get rid of anything truly significant in order to get him, which as many have pointed out, it obviously would require. With that being said, I would try to pitch a pipe dream scenario and if he takes it, great. If not, thanks for coming in. Offer him the MLE or minimum, whatever. Try to sell him on making a sacrifice for the greater good of winning or whatever. That would add a positive spin in my opinion to his legacy. Do I think he would take it? Absolutely not; nor should he feel obligated to. He is well deserving of a max deal, but it can't hurt to try.
What about Irving? you think he will be happy about this
If he wants a meeting with Boston, I believe the Cs would talk with Kyrie before setting anything up. I really don't think the "friction" between the two was all it was cracked up to be. I have been reading LarBrd's posts concerning this and I tend to agree with his view on this particular subject. I would also let Lebron know what the system in Boston is all about, get his view on it, see if he can take part in it, etc. Let him know you respect him as a player, but as I said in my initial post, "This is what we've got, this is what we can do." If he can't see himself fitting in, then it was nice talking, good luck wherever you end up. Again, I don't think it's an absolute great shot that LBJ comes to Boston, but I don't think it's very close to slim-to-none either. I'm sure he took note of what has been going on with the organization, the talent, the promise, etc. I don't think he is ignoring or not giving it some sort of consideration.
even asking Kyrie prior is a risk....think about it
he left because of Lebron and his diva ways.
Also asking Lebron to tame his diva/control freak ways and listen to the coach etc. ....well goodluck with that
IF lebron joins or wants to be recruited by the Celts, he wants to know what they will do for him and not the other way around. How he will get his max, who will be traded, if the coach will give him freedom, the team give him leeway etc.
Can't see this happening with the pieces in place. IF the Celts were mid tier, with Rivers as still the coach and Danny under the gun to make something happen. Then yes... i can see management possibly bending/sacrificing for Lebron
If any GM is willing to go into a meeting and take the "this is our thing, this is a team organization, this is our system, and this is what we would do with you, fit you in, etc," approach, it would be DA. They would try their best to lure him (within the confines of what they may be willing to do), but Ainge doesn't seem the type to jump through hoops to appease anyone. I guess we will see what happens this summer.
-
the Ringer's article on the subject of James in Boston
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/6/8/17440192/lebron-james-boston-celtics-offseason
-
the Ringer's article on the subject of James in Boston
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/6/8/17440192/lebron-james-boston-celtics-offseason
I do not want, in a million years, to trade a 28 year old Hayward or a 26 year old Irving for a 33 year old Lebron that is already 18th all-time in minutes played. It is definitely possible that he falls off a cliff in one of the next two seasons and is barely an all-star player (which is possible for irving and hayward obviously, but a lot less likely). I'm honestly shocked people would consider this (unless somehow Irving made it clear he didn't want to resign here)
-
If I am the Celtics and they actually have a meeting with him, I would tell him, "This is what we've got; this is what we're willing to do." Honestly, I am not opposed to having him join; however, I don't want to get rid of anything truly significant in order to get him, which as many have pointed out, it obviously would require. With that being said, I would try to pitch a pipe dream scenario and if he takes it, great. If not, thanks for coming in. Offer him the MLE or minimum, whatever. Try to sell him on making a sacrifice for the greater good of winning or whatever. That would add a positive spin in my opinion to his legacy. Do I think he would take it? Absolutely not; nor should he feel obligated to. He is well deserving of a max deal, but it can't hurt to try.
What about Irving? you think he will be happy about this
If he wants a meeting with Boston, I believe the Cs would talk with Kyrie before setting anything up. I really don't think the "friction" between the two was all it was cracked up to be. I have been reading LarBrd's posts concerning this and I tend to agree with his view on this particular subject. I would also let Lebron know what the system in Boston is all about, get his view on it, see if he can take part in it, etc. Let him know you respect him as a player, but as I said in my initial post, "This is what we've got, this is what we can do." If he can't see himself fitting in, then it was nice talking, good luck wherever you end up. Again, I don't think it's an absolute great shot that LBJ comes to Boston, but I don't think it's very close to slim-to-none either. I'm sure he took note of what has been going on with the organization, the talent, the promise, etc. I don't think he is ignoring or not giving it some sort of consideration.
even asking Kyrie prior is a risk....think about it
he left because of Lebron and his diva ways.
Also asking Lebron to tame his diva/control freak ways and listen to the coach etc. ....well goodluck with that
IF lebron joins or wants to be recruited by the Celts, he wants to know what they will do for him and not the other way around. How he will get his max, who will be traded, if the coach will give him freedom, the team give him leeway etc.
Can't see this happening with the pieces in place. IF the Celts were mid tier, with Rivers as still the coach and Danny under the gun to make something happen. Then yes... i can see management possibly bending/sacrificing for Lebron
If any GM is willing to go into a meeting and take the "this is our thing, this is a team organization, this is our system, and this is what we would do with you, fit you in, etc," approach, it would be DA. They would try their best to lure him (within the confines of what they may be willing to do), but Ainge doesn't seem the type to jump through hoops to appease anyone. I guess we will see what happens this summer.
Danny Ainge is one guy you don't mess with, he will trade Lebron's ass out if he shows any unappropriate attitude
-
Leif: Dwyane Wade to @Chris Mannix and Caron Butler radio show: Doesn’t think LeBron James is looking at teaming up with multiple stars a top priority. Won’t be about basketball. Family being comfortable and happy comes first. – via Twitter