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Re: Tom Brady officially said goodbye to New England
« Reply #120 on: March 20, 2020, 02:46:36 PM »

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#12 is retired in Tampa bay

Should be a nice awkward situation there. Toms tb12 brand is fairly large so he’d want to keep 12

Re: Tom Brady officially said goodbye to New England
« Reply #121 on: March 20, 2020, 03:00:17 PM »

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#12 is retired in Tampa bay

Should be a nice awkward situation there. Toms tb12 brand is fairly large so he’d want to keep 12
You sure about that. I think you have some bad info.

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Re: Tom Brady officially said goodbye to New England
« Reply #122 on: March 20, 2020, 03:01:02 PM »

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#12 is retired in Tampa bay

Should be a nice awkward situation there. Toms tb12 brand is fairly large so he’d want to keep 12

It's not retired.  Godwin wears it.    I'm sure either some sort of deal will be worked out or maybe Brady goes back to #10.


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Re: Tom Brady officially said goodbye to New England
« Reply #123 on: March 23, 2020, 08:36:34 PM »

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Let's just remember that Bill always knows the right time to cut ties.

I won't be surprised when Brady misses the playoffs next season.
Is that a prediction I hear??
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Re: Tom Brady officially said goodbye to New England
« Reply #124 on: March 23, 2020, 08:45:12 PM »

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Let's just remember that Bill always knows the right time to cut ties.

I won't be surprised when Brady misses the playoffs next season.
Is that a prediction I hear??
Quite the bold prediction given he's got the best WR core in the NFL, and a strong top 10 offensive line. Ali Marpet and Ryan Jensen are both really great interior linemen.

Guys like Shaq Barrett on defence help too
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Re: Tom Brady officially said goodbye to New England
« Reply #125 on: March 23, 2020, 08:49:36 PM »

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Let's just remember that Bill always knows the right time to cut ties.

I won't be surprised when Brady misses the playoffs next season.
Is that a prediction I hear??
Quite the bold prediction given he's got the best WR core in the NFL, and a strong top 10 offensive line. Ali Marpet and Ryan Jensen are both really great interior linemen.

Guys like Shaq Barrett on defence help too
Buc's offensive tackles aren't very good, unfortunately for Tom.

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« Reply #126 on: March 24, 2020, 12:04:57 AM »

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Let's just remember that Bill always knows the right time to cut ties.

I won't be surprised when Brady misses the playoffs next season.
Is that a prediction I hear??
Quite the bold prediction given he's got the best WR core in the NFL, and a strong top 10 offensive line. Ali Marpet and Ryan Jensen are both really great interior linemen.

Guys like Shaq Barrett on defence help too
Buc's offensive tackles aren't very good, unfortunately for Tom.
No doubt. That being said, there are a lot of offensive tackles in this draft in the first round, if that's the way they want to go
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Re: Tom Brady officially said goodbye to New England
« Reply #127 on: March 24, 2020, 10:10:58 AM »

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Let's just remember that Bill always knows the right time to cut ties.

I won't be surprised when Brady misses the playoffs next season.
Is that a prediction I hear??
Quite the bold prediction given he's got the best WR core in the NFL, and a strong top 10 offensive line. Ali Marpet and Ryan Jensen are both really great interior linemen.

Guys like Shaq Barrett on defence help too
Buc's offensive tackles aren't very good, unfortunately for Tom.
No doubt. That being said, there are a lot of offensive tackles in this draft in the first round, if that's the way they want to go
Tampa is almost certainly spending 14 on a tackle.

You can probably get a day 1 starter at RT there.
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« Reply #128 on: March 24, 2020, 06:08:06 PM »

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Let's just remember that Bill always knows the right time to cut ties.

I won't be surprised when Brady misses the playoffs next season.
Is that a prediction I hear??
Quite the bold prediction given he's got the best WR core in the NFL, and a strong top 10 offensive line. Ali Marpet and Ryan Jensen are both really great interior linemen.

Guys like Shaq Barrett on defence help too


It might not seem so bold if Tom has to miss a third or more of the season and/or their defense stinks.


Is Tom at 43 automatically going to take a 7-9 team to 10-6?  I don't think that's a given at all.


I'm not predicting it, but I also don't think the Bucs should be considered a contender suddenly just because they went from Jameis Winston to TB12.



Tampa had the 21st ranked offense by DVOA last year.  Is Tom so good at age 43 that he completely transforms an offense?


Tampa's defense was actually by far the best thing about it last season (5th by DVOA).  Who have they added or lost on that side?

Tampa's ST was 28th last year but that can fluctuate a lot year to year.


Still, you're talking about a franchise that hasn't made the playoffs since 2007.  Now that they have Tom Brady at age 43 they're a lock for the playoffs? 

We watched Brady last year right?  Tom was pedestrian a lot more than he was terrific last year, and I'm not willing to say that was all due to injuries on the OL or a lack of receivers.

Let's also not forget that one of Tom's most notable traits is that he takes a while to develop trust with his receivers.  Every guy who catches a pass from Tom next year will be a guy Tom hasn't thrown to before.
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Re: Tom Brady officially said goodbye to New England
« Reply #129 on: March 24, 2020, 06:31:35 PM »

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If Brady causes, and he probably will, the Tampa turnover total from the QB position to go from 33 to say 12 and pick 6's from 7 to 2, I am guessing the Tampa DVOA will skyrocket and their number of wins to increase by 3-4 wins.

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« Reply #130 on: March 24, 2020, 08:24:39 PM »

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If Brady causes, and he probably will, the Tampa turnover total from the QB position to go from 33 to say 12 and pick 6's from 7 to 2, I am guessing the Tampa DVOA will skyrocket and their number of wins to increase by 3-4 wins.
Yeah, this is basically my answer to Pho. Jameis also had triple the fumbles Brady had.
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« Reply #131 on: March 24, 2020, 08:29:08 PM »

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If Brady causes, and he probably will, the Tampa turnover total from the QB position to go from 33 to say 12 and pick 6's from 7 to 2, I am guessing the Tampa DVOA will skyrocket and their number of wins to increase by 3-4 wins.
Yeah, this is basically my answer to Pho. Jameis also had triple the fumbles Brady had.
Yep, it's pretty easy to see how Tampa Bay would dramatically improve without the famous Jameis turnover factory.
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« Reply #132 on: March 24, 2020, 08:55:10 PM »

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If Brady causes, and he probably will, the Tampa turnover total from the QB position to go from 33 to say 12 and pick 6's from 7 to 2, I am guessing the Tampa DVOA will skyrocket and their number of wins to increase by 3-4 wins.


Maybe it really is that simple.

I'm skeptical of that.

You're also assuming he'll be able to play most or all of the season.
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« Reply #133 on: March 24, 2020, 10:11:59 PM »

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If Brady causes, and he probably will, the Tampa turnover total from the QB position to go from 33 to say 12 and pick 6's from 7 to 2, I am guessing the Tampa DVOA will skyrocket and their number of wins to increase by 3-4 wins.


Maybe it really is that simple.

I'm skeptical of that.

You're also assuming he'll be able to play most or all of the season.
Brady has almost never missed games due to injury. Yes, he is older but also in tremendous shape and has no known long term medical issues. I see no reason to assume he is going to miss games.

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« Reply #134 on: March 24, 2020, 10:18:31 PM »

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If Brady causes, and he probably will, the Tampa turnover total from the QB position to go from 33 to say 12 and pick 6's from 7 to 2, I am guessing the Tampa DVOA will skyrocket and their number of wins to increase by 3-4 wins.


Maybe it really is that simple.

I'm skeptical of that.

You're also assuming he'll be able to play most or all of the season.
Brady has almost never missed games due to injury. Yes, he is older but also in tremendous shape and has no known long term medical issues. I see no reason to assume he is going to miss games.
Plus, assuming they pick an offensive tackle at some stage their pass blocking looks pretty strong 
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