Brooklyn Nets 2017-2018 season watch thread

[max215]

Toronto has traded DeMarre Carroll, a future first-round and second-round pick to Brooklyn for Justin Hamilton, league sources tell ESPN.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883906848524578816

Aww !#$!#%$$!%$!!@#$

Mike

Why? Carroll's horrible now, which is why they were rewarded handsomely for taking him.

Yeah, pretty questionable move on their part. Granted, it's not like they're competing right now anyways, so whatever it takes to get those extra firsts, I guess.

The best news, though, is that this more than likely takes them out of the KCP sweepstakes, because I believe this only leaves them with about $16M or so available in cap space. They must've felt that they had no shot at him. And with LA more than likely going to miss out on him by only offering single year contracts, this could be excellent news for us.

See, I think it's actually another savvy move from Marks. He just bought a pick in the 20-22 range (and a second) for $30M, and he's bringing  in a great veteran presence (who his coach loves).

[rondofan1255]

https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/883384868612096001

Pistons' highest offer to Kentavious Caldwell-Pope was 5 years, $80 million, per source. Salary "wasn't even close" to what KCP is seeking.

[CELTICSofBOSTON]

So can they still offer KCP?

[kraidstar]

Toronto has traded DeMarre Carroll, a future first-round and second-round pick to Brooklyn for Justin Hamilton, league sources tell ESPN.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883906848524578816

Aww !#$!#%$$!%$!!@#$

Mike

Why? Carroll's horrible now, which is why they were rewarded handsomely for taking him.

Yeah, pretty questionable move on their part. Granted, it's not like they're competing right now anyways, so whatever it takes to get those extra firsts, I guess.

The best news, though, is that this more than likely takes them out of the KCP sweepstakes, because I believe this only leaves them with about $16M or so available in cap space. They must've felt that they had no shot at him. And with LA more than likely going to miss out on him by only offering single year contracts, this could be excellent news for us.

See, I think it's actually another savvy move from Marks. He just bought a pick in the 20-22 range (and a second) for $30M, and he's bringing  in a great veteran presence (who his coach loves).

IMO this is a terrific move by Marks, just as the Lakers trade was.

The Nets needed to get creative with moves to try to create some assets to help them rebuild when they finally start getting their own picks in a couple years. Renting out cap space to desperate teams is a terrific strategy.

And who knows? Maybe Carroll actually plays well and the Nets can flip him for even more assets.

[mef730]

https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/883384868612096001

Pistons' highest offer to Kentavious Caldwell-Pope was 5 years, $80 million, per source. Salary "wasn't even close" to what KCP is seeking.

True, but the market is changing daily. If someone offers him 16m now, I bet he takes it.

Mike

[Big333223]

Toronto has traded DeMarre Carroll, a future first-round and second-round pick to Brooklyn for Justin Hamilton, league sources tell ESPN.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883906848524578816

Aww !#$!#%$$!%$!!@#$

Mike

Why? Carroll's horrible now, which is why they were rewarded handsomely for taking him.

Yeah, pretty questionable move on their part. Granted, it's not like they're competing right now anyways, so whatever it takes to get those extra firsts, I guess.

The best news, though, is that this more than likely takes them out of the KCP sweepstakes, because I believe this only leaves them with about $16M or so available in cap space. They must've felt that they had no shot at him. And with LA more than likely going to miss out on him by only offering single year contracts, this could be excellent news for us.

See, I think it's actually another savvy move from Marks. He just bought a pick in the 20-22 range (and a second) for $30M, and he's bringing  in a great veteran presence (who his coach loves).

IMO this is a terrific move by Marks, just as the Lakers trade was.

The Nets needed to get creative with moves to try to create some assets to help them rebuild when they finally start getting their own picks in a couple years. Renting out cap space to desperate teams is a terrific strategy.

And who knows? Maybe Carroll actually plays well and the Nets can flip him for even more assets.

Yep.  All of that. In the meantime, I don't think Carroll helps them win games so we're still safe.

I feel a lot better rooting against them when I can look at deals like this and think they'll be in position to rebound after they've given us all their good picks.

[Ed Hollison]

I agree this was a good move by the Nets. They desperately need picks/young assets and they're going to stink anyway the next couple years. Exactly what we did a few years ago when we took on Gerald Wallace (and got an additional pick from the Nets) when we traded away Pierce and Garnett.

[rondofan1255]

https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/883384868612096001

Pistons' highest offer to Kentavious Caldwell-Pope was 5 years, $80 million, per source. Salary "wasn't even close" to what KCP is seeking.

True, but the market is changing daily. If someone offers him 16m now, I bet he takes it.

Mike

Seeing on ESPN that KCP signed with the Lakers. Great news for the Brooklyn pick!

[CELTICSofBOSTON]

I want Ayton and either Bagley or Porter

[jdz101]

I want Ayton and either Bagley or Porter

This guy knows. Never mind Luka Doncic.

[GreenEnvy]

Toronto has traded DeMarre Carroll, a future first-round and second-round pick to Brooklyn for Justin Hamilton, league sources tell ESPN.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883906848524578816

Aww !#$!#%$$!%$!!@#$

Mike

Why? Carroll's horrible now, which is why they were rewarded handsomely for taking him.

Yeah, pretty questionable move on their part. Granted, it's not like they're competing right now anyways, so whatever it takes to get those extra firsts, I guess.

The best news, though, is that this more than likely takes them out of the KCP sweepstakes, because I believe this only leaves them with about $16M or so available in cap space. They must've felt that they had no shot at him. And with LA more than likely going to miss out on him by only offering single year contracts, this could be excellent news for us.

See, I think it's actually another savvy move from Marks. He just bought a pick in the 20-22 range (and a second) for $30M, and he's bringing  in a great veteran presence (who his coach loves).

How is buying a mid-late (non-lottery) first round pick for $30M a good move? I could understand a top-3 pick, maybe. A latter first just isn't worth anywhere near close to that.

Liked the Lakers trade for the Nets (long-term for them, but even more so for our pick next year), but not the Raptors trade.

[trickybilly]

https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/883384868612096001

Pistons' highest offer to Kentavious Caldwell-Pope was 5 years, $80 million, per source. Salary "wasn't even close" to what KCP is seeking.

True, but the market is changing daily. If someone offers him 16m now, I bet he takes it.

Mike

Seeing on ESPN that KCP signed with the Lakers. Great news for the Brooklyn pick!

Woj now getting in on the act.

[dang], Nets literally cannot buy a decent team.

[BitterJim]

Toronto has traded DeMarre Carroll, a future first-round and second-round pick to Brooklyn for Justin Hamilton, league sources tell ESPN.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883906848524578816

Aww !#$!#%$$!%$!!@#$

Mike

Why? Carroll's horrible now, which is why they were rewarded handsomely for taking him.

Yeah, pretty questionable move on their part. Granted, it's not like they're competing right now anyways, so whatever it takes to get those extra firsts, I guess.

The best news, though, is that this more than likely takes them out of the KCP sweepstakes, because I believe this only leaves them with about $16M or so available in cap space. They must've felt that they had no shot at him. And with LA more than likely going to miss out on him by only offering single year contracts, this could be excellent news for us.

See, I think it's actually another savvy move from Marks. He just bought a pick in the 20-22 range (and a second) for $30M, and he's bringing  in a great veteran presence (who his coach loves).

How is buying a mid-late (non-lottery) first round pick for $30M a good move? I could understand a top-3 pick, maybe. A latter first just isn't worth anywhere near close to that.

Liked the Lakers trade for the Nets (long-term for them, but even more so for our pick next year), but not the Raptors trade.

It's not that straightforward, though. In all likelihood, they're gonna be close to the salary floor, so a good chunk of that $15 million/year would likely have ended up being paid anyway (split evenly among the team's players or given to someone else in order to get above the floor). They also get, well, a player, so even if you figure he's as good as a minimum salary player that also takes ~$5 million off over two years.

So, really, they probably paid closer to $10 million for a first and second rounder (probably around the 23rd and 53rd picks), which is pretty good considering that the #38 pick this year got sold for $3.5 million

[Darío SpanishFan]

I want Ayton and either Bagley or Porter

This guy knows. Never mind Luka Doncic.

You should watch him play before saying that.

[Big333223]

Toronto has traded DeMarre Carroll, a future first-round and second-round pick to Brooklyn for Justin Hamilton, league sources tell ESPN.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883906848524578816

Aww !#$!#%$$!%$!!@#$

Mike

Why? Carroll's horrible now, which is why they were rewarded handsomely for taking him.

Yeah, pretty questionable move on their part. Granted, it's not like they're competing right now anyways, so whatever it takes to get those extra firsts, I guess.

The best news, though, is that this more than likely takes them out of the KCP sweepstakes, because I believe this only leaves them with about $16M or so available in cap space. They must've felt that they had no shot at him. And with LA more than likely going to miss out on him by only offering single year contracts, this could be excellent news for us.

See, I think it's actually another savvy move from Marks. He just bought a pick in the 20-22 range (and a second) for $30M, and he's bringing  in a great veteran presence (who his coach loves).

How is buying a mid-late (non-lottery) first round pick for $30M a good move? I could understand a top-3 pick, maybe. A latter first just isn't worth anywhere near close to that.

Liked the Lakers trade for the Nets (long-term for them, but even more so for our pick next year), but not the Raptors trade.

It's not that straightforward, though. In all likelihood, they're gonna be close to the salary floor, so a good chunk of that $15 million/year would likely have ended up being paid anyway (split evenly among the team's players or given to someone else in order to get above the floor). They also get, well, a player, so even if you figure he's as good as a minimum salary player that also takes ~$5 million off over two years.

So, really, they probably paid closer to $10 million for a first and second rounder (probably around the 23rd and 53rd picks), which is pretty good considering that the #38 pick this year got sold for $3.5 million

And it's not like Brooklyn was using that cap space to sign anyone meaningful in next summer. Might as well get an asset of some kind.

Plus, as someone else said, there's always a chance Carroll feels healthier, plays a little better, and can be flipped for another assett later.

My question would be: why not?