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Re: Jabari Bird arrested
« Reply #315 on: September 18, 2018, 04:46:56 PM »

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"A source told ESPN that Bird had been receiving treatment with the help of a Celtics doctor and that medication could have played a role in the alleged attack."

Yikes.  Not a good decade for the Celtics' medical staff.
There you go. That's going to be Bird's defense. He isn't responsible for the severe side effects of medication prescribed for him by the team's medical staff. He was just following doctor's orders.

Re: Jabari Bird arrested
« Reply #316 on: September 18, 2018, 10:20:12 PM »

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"A source told ESPN that Bird had been receiving treatment with the help of a Celtics doctor and that medication could have played a role in the alleged attack."

Yikes.  Not a good decade for the Celtics' medical staff.
the medical staff can’t foresee side effects. The science of stopping side effects isn’t exsctly easy

Re: Jabari Bird arrested
« Reply #317 on: September 18, 2018, 10:21:07 PM »

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So it looks like the Celtics were aware there were recent issues with Bird, though they did not foresee something like this happening. He had even already started treatment before the incident.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2018/09/source_celtics_jabari_bird_sought_treatment_before_domestic_violence?amp=

People around Bird have been aware that he recently had been experiencing, according to one source close to him, “panic attacks and things like that. It wasn’t a long-term thing, but everyone knew. The Celtics knew there was something going on and he was being treated.”

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“This wasn’t one of the domestic-violence situations you usually see where someone gets jealous for one thing and loses control. There was something deeper going on here with (Bird). This was a bad situation.”
i think there’s a chance he stays on the team. It seems like some medical related thing.

Re: Jabari Bird arrested
« Reply #318 on: September 18, 2018, 10:24:14 PM »

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So it looks like the Celtics were aware there were recent issues with Bird, though they did not foresee something like this happening. He had even already started treatment before the incident.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2018/09/source_celtics_jabari_bird_sought_treatment_before_domestic_violence?amp=

People around Bird have been aware that he recently had been experiencing, according to one source close to him, “panic attacks and things like that. It wasn’t a long-term thing, but everyone knew. The Celtics knew there was something going on and he was being treated.”

and

“This wasn’t one of the domestic-violence situations you usually see where someone gets jealous for one thing and loses control. There was something deeper going on here with (Bird). This was a bad situation.”
i think there’s a chance he stays on the team. It seems like some medical related thing.

0% chance.  Sponsors and most fans don't want to support somebody who tortured and severely injured his girlfriend.


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Re: Jabari Bird arrested
« Reply #319 on: September 18, 2018, 11:04:21 PM »

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So it looks like the Celtics were aware there were recent issues with Bird, though they did not foresee something like this happening. He had even already started treatment before the incident.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2018/09/source_celtics_jabari_bird_sought_treatment_before_domestic_violence?amp=

People around Bird have been aware that he recently had been experiencing, according to one source close to him, “panic attacks and things like that. It wasn’t a long-term thing, but everyone knew. The Celtics knew there was something going on and he was being treated.”

and

“This wasn’t one of the domestic-violence situations you usually see where someone gets jealous for one thing and loses control. There was something deeper going on here with (Bird). This was a bad situation.”
i think there’s a chance he stays on the team. It seems like some medical related thing.

0% chance.  Sponsors and most fans don't want to support somebody who tortured and severely injured his girlfriend.
It's not like Bird is star level talent.  He can be easily replaced with someone that doesn't have that baggage.   

Re: Jabari Bird arrested
« Reply #320 on: September 19, 2018, 09:56:24 AM »

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"A source told ESPN that Bird had been receiving treatment with the help of a Celtics doctor and that medication could have played a role in the alleged attack."

Yikes.  Not a good decade for the Celtics' medical staff.

My guess is that’s a pro-Jabari source.

I don't know why the source matters if the information is accurate.

Re: Jabari Bird arrested
« Reply #321 on: September 19, 2018, 10:40:07 AM »

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Per ESPN

"A source told ESPN that Bird had been receiving treatment with the help of a Celtics doctor and that medication could have played a role in the alleged attack."

Yikes.  Not a good decade for the Celtics' medical staff.

My guess is that’s a pro-Jabari source.

I don't know why the source matters if the information is accurate.

We don’t know if it’s accurate, just that a source is trying to make it public.


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Re: Jabari Bird arrested
« Reply #322 on: September 19, 2018, 10:41:34 AM »

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"A source told ESPN that Bird had been receiving treatment with the help of a Celtics doctor and that medication could have played a role in the alleged attack."

Yikes.  Not a good decade for the Celtics' medical staff.

My guess is that’s a pro-Jabari source.

I don't know why the source matters if the information is accurate.

We don’t know if it’s accurate, just that a source is trying to make it public.
It didn't come off to me that he was implying that the info necessarily was accurate, but merely that it doesn't matter where it originates if it is
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Re: Jabari Bird arrested
« Reply #323 on: September 19, 2018, 12:02:50 PM »

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Per ESPN

"A source told ESPN that Bird had been receiving treatment with the help of a Celtics doctor and that medication could have played a role in the alleged attack."

Yikes.  Not a good decade for the Celtics' medical staff.

My guess is that’s a pro-Jabari source.

I don't know why the source matters if the information is accurate.

We don’t know if it’s accurate, just that a source is trying to make it public.
It didn't come off to me that he was implying that the info necessarily was accurate, but merely that it doesn't matter where it originates if it is

You got it.

Re: Jabari Bird arrested
« Reply #324 on: September 19, 2018, 12:29:28 PM »

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There is a mental health component then.  I'm not following the firm stance that he is using medication as an excuse, it has to bode well for him that he sought mental health treatment before incident occurred.
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Re: Jabari Bird arrested
« Reply #325 on: October 01, 2018, 06:52:10 AM »

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Is it fair to say that this the point that the Celtics are on a wait and see with Jabari?
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Re: Jabari Bird arrested
« Reply #326 on: October 01, 2018, 08:19:45 AM »

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Is it fair to say that this the point that the Celtics are on a wait and see with Jabari?

 They are waiting for the NBA to finish its investigation. If the Celtics cut him now, they are on the hook for his entire salary. If they wait for him to be suspended, They will get some monetary relief both on his salary and any corresponding luxury tax hit.


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Re: Jabari Bird arrested
« Reply #327 on: October 03, 2018, 01:54:23 AM »

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Is it fair to say that this the point that the Celtics are on a wait and see with Jabari?

 They are waiting for the NBA to finish its investigation. If the Celtics cut him now, they are on the hook for his entire salary. If they wait for him to be suspended, They will get some monetary relief both on his salary and any corresponding luxury tax hit.

Thanks for clarification. I was wondering why he has not yet been cut.
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Re: Jabari Bird arrested
« Reply #328 on: October 03, 2018, 07:25:25 AM »

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The league and Celtics were addressing mental health issues. Kevin Love and Marcus Morris both had recently come out in the press.
If Jabari had no past history of abuse was seeking help voluntarily and suffered a reaction that led to a psychotic episode or he had a psychotic breakdown as a result of a escalating illness.Then there is the possibility of having two victims.

Re: Jabari Bird arrested
« Reply #329 on: October 03, 2018, 07:45:57 AM »

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The league and Celtics were addressing mental health issues. Kevin Love and Marcus Morris both had recently come out in the press.
If Jabari had no past history of abuse was seeking help voluntarily and suffered a reaction that led to a psychotic episode or he had a psychotic breakdown as a result of a escalating illness.Then there is the possibility of having two victims.

I’d have a hard time calling Bird a “victim” here. 

I draw the line somewhere around torture but that’s just me...


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