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Re: More Robert Williams please....
« Reply #1290 on: October 29, 2018, 11:03:01 AM »

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I think the thing I have liked the most is that he clearly understands his role in the Celtic offensive sets. When Stevens calls for a multiple screen, or multiple step set, Williams knows his part.

He doesn't get lost on offense. He is not a step slow on his actions or cuts. He seems to have a really good feel already for the sets Stevens runs. That's promising for a young athletic big. Normally it takes a year or two for them to run their part of the offense as efficiently as Williams is.

On defense, when he switches onto opposing guards, he has been pretty good, but when he is off-ball, I've seen him be out of position or a step slow.

I noticed the same thing.  His awareness or maybe it's effort when off the ball isn't always there.    There are times he's in position and makes a good block and there were others where he just watched a guy go right to the hoop while he stood by his man and didn't rotate.  That's to be expected and needs improved upon.  I still don't think he's in NBA shape yet and this year is all about getting his body right, mind right and learning what it takes to be a pro.  I really want to see him in Maine playing 30 minutes a night.  I see a lot of DeAndre Jordan or a clint capela.  When he adds some weight he will definitely resemble Jordan. 

Re: More Robert Williams please....
« Reply #1291 on: October 29, 2018, 11:19:50 AM »

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so far he's looking like a steal at where he was picked.  good athleticism.  looks like he has the potential to be a very good defensive center and active rebounder.  still early but seeing a lot more reasons to be optimistic than pessimistic about his future. 

Re: More Robert Williams please....
« Reply #1292 on: October 29, 2018, 12:48:34 PM »

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The annual "I want the rookie to play more even though we have no idea if he's any good" thread.

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Mike

No comparison. Mikey was much smaller and less athletic.

Williams is long and quick and a good passer.

Re: More Robert Williams please....
« Reply #1293 on: October 29, 2018, 01:16:45 PM »

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The annual "I want the rookie to play more even though we have no idea if he's any good" thread.

#FreeMickey

Mike

No comparison. Mikey was much smaller and less athletic.

Williams is long and quick and a good passer.

I don't think he was comparing the players, I think he was comparing the mentality that some fans have that the players we haven't seen yet must be better than the ones we have seen for no reason. Mickey is a good example of someone that some posters cried about not getting enough minutes right up until he was completely out of the league.
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Re: More Robert Williams please....
« Reply #1294 on: October 29, 2018, 11:04:59 PM »

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The annual "I want the rookie to play more even though we have no idea if he's any good" thread.

#FreeMickey

Mike

No comparison. Mikey was much smaller and less athletic.

Williams is long and quick and a good passer.

I don't think he was comparing the players, I think he was comparing the mentality that some fans have that the players we haven't seen yet must be better than the ones we have seen for no reason. Mickey is a good example of someone that some posters cried about not getting enough minutes right up until he was completely out of the league.

I have seen plenty of Williams. If he stays healthy, he can be really good.

It is like the first time I saw Rondo, I knew he was going to be good.

Re: More Robert Williams please....
« Reply #1295 on: October 29, 2018, 11:30:04 PM »

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Not sure if I should participate in this thread. I had high hopes for Mickey

Re: More Robert Williams please....
« Reply #1296 on: October 29, 2018, 11:51:00 PM »

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Not sure if I should participate in this thread. I had high hopes for Mickey
Mickey seemingly had the physical tools, just nothing else apparently.
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Re: More Robert Williams please....
« Reply #1297 on: October 30, 2018, 12:46:14 AM »

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 No need to bring up Mickey. He's not in the same class. Just talking measurements. Enter Sandman has a 9'4" standing reach. Which is ultra elite. Mickey was 8'10" if memory serves me. Which is horrible for a center.

Re: More Robert Williams please....
« Reply #1298 on: October 30, 2018, 01:06:58 AM »

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Not sure if I should participate in this thread. I had high hopes for Mickey
Mickey seemingly had the physical tools, just nothing else apparently.

Mickey's physical tools pale in comparison to Robert Williams. Williams also has better hands, better passing and sees the game better.

Re: More Robert Williams please....
« Reply #1299 on: October 30, 2018, 02:42:40 AM »

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Not sure if I should participate in this thread. I had high hopes for Mickey
Mickey seemingly had the physical tools, just nothing else apparently.

Mickey's physical tools pale in comparison to Robert Williams. Williams also has better hands, better passing and sees the game better.
Oh most certainly, Williams is essentially better at everything. I just thought best case Mickey could've been Tyrus Thomas-like
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: More Robert Williams please....
« Reply #1300 on: October 30, 2018, 03:45:22 AM »

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Not sure if I should participate in this thread. I had high hopes for Mickey
Mickey seemingly had the physical tools, just nothing else apparently.

Mickey's physical tools pale in comparison to Robert Williams. Williams also has better hands, better passing and sees the game better.
Oh most certainly, Williams is essentially better at everything. I just thought best case Mickey could've been Tyrus Thomas-like
Mickey can't put his head at rim height.
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Re: More Robert Williams please....
« Reply #1301 on: October 30, 2018, 05:17:12 AM »

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Not sure if I should participate in this thread. I had high hopes for Mickey
Mickey seemingly had the physical tools, just nothing else apparently.

Mickey's physical tools pale in comparison to Robert Williams. Williams also has better hands, better passing and sees the game better.
Oh most certainly, Williams is essentially better at everything. I just thought best case Mickey could've been Tyrus Thomas-like
Mickey can't put his head at rim height.
He's also shorter than Thomas, hence I never thought he'd be the same guy, just a similar undersized big
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: More Robert Williams please....
« Reply #1302 on: October 30, 2018, 06:41:32 AM »

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Mickey seemingly had the physical tools, just nothing else apparently.

Mickey had to gather himself to jump.   Williams is a human pogo stick and get up there without gathering himself by bending his knees.   This will make a guy quicker off his feet.

Re: More Robert Williams please....
« Reply #1303 on: October 30, 2018, 08:08:32 AM »

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Mickey seemingly had the physical tools, just nothing else apparently.

Mickey had to gather himself to jump.   Williams is a human pogo stick and get up there without gathering himself by bending his knees.   This will make a guy quicker off his feet.

Agree. Also I think Williams is stronger through his core and upper body. Mickey always looked a little gangly out there to me.

Re: More Robert Williams please....
« Reply #1304 on: October 30, 2018, 08:43:22 AM »

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wow, the last page pretty much dedicated to Mickey bashing.  somewhere, Triboy is curled up in a ball weeping thanks to you guys.  ;)