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Re: Report: Pierce expects to be traded or released
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2013, 06:39:05 PM »

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On this one, I trust Dickerson less than CROTOR.

"The company that [Pierce] hangs around in", really? Not only do I marvel how any reputable journalist would even consider putting this out there, but the repackage it weeks after the fact... meh.
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Re: Report: Pierce expects to be traded or released
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2013, 06:40:51 PM »

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What about a S&T for Pekovic?  Is something like that possible?  If we could get him and Andre Miller I would be so happy.  I don't think we're beating the Heat without some major changes that are not likely until 2015, so a Rondo stop gap and a long term Center would be really awesome. 

Re: Report: Pierce expects to be traded or released
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2013, 07:17:11 PM »

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The decision on whether or not to waive Pierce and save $10 million plus luxury tax (which would put the Celtics in line to have to pay the repeater tax in the future) has to be made before the July moratorium, thus before a sign-and-trade can be negotiated.

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Re: Report: Pierce expects to be traded or released
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2013, 08:09:28 PM »

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Ainge has also recently said that if Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett are a team's 2nd and 3rd best players, or 3rd and 4th best players, that it's a "really, really special" team.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/05/12/this-summer-may-danny-ainge-most-critical-with-celtics/ydUo8geFXRarAu6THDgMpM/story.html

By those comments, it sounds like Ainge is also fine with running it back one more year.

I don't see it as writing on the wall, so much as whispers in the wind. And the voices aren't all saying the same thing.
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Re: Report: Pierce expects to be traded or released
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2013, 10:34:45 PM »

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We can waive Pierce, pay him the $5M (it counts against cap) then structure the $10M he'd make over the next 2/3 years. Let's say it's $3M this year and $3.3M and $3.6M for the next 2 years with player options. That means it's $8M against the cap this year which saves us $7.2M while keeping the team together.

The way you sell this to PP is that he can make his last 2-3 years as a Celtics more competitive while guaranteeing that he retires a Celtic through a no-trade clause. I don't see why he wouldn't do this. If it's a money thing then I don't begrudge Ainge cutting or trading him in the off-season.

Ainge has also recently said that if Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett are a team's 2nd and 3rd best players, or 3rd and 4th best players, that it's a "really, really special" team.

I could not agree more. Having 4-6 players that are all good to great players is how we'll beat the Heat next year. Hopefully the Grizzlies do it this year :) Especially if we get a reasonably  good center in the draft. Gobert, Dieng or even a FA big who can eat up minutes without blowing a lead.

Re: Report: Pierce expects to be traded or released
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2013, 10:37:38 PM »

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Ainge has also recently said that if Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett are a team's 2nd and 3rd best players, or 3rd and 4th best players, that it's a "really, really special" team.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/05/12/this-summer-may-danny-ainge-most-critical-with-celtics/ydUo8geFXRarAu6THDgMpM/story.html

By those comments, it sounds like Ainge is also fine with running it back one more year.

I don't see it as writing on the wall, so much as whispers in the wind. And the voices aren't all saying the same thing.

Green and Rondo?

Re: Report: Pierce expects to be traded or released
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2013, 10:42:16 PM »

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Ainge has also recently said that if Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett are a team's 2nd and 3rd best players, or 3rd and 4th best players, that it's a "really, really special" team.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/05/12/this-summer-may-danny-ainge-most-critical-with-celtics/ydUo8geFXRarAu6THDgMpM/story.html

By those comments, it sounds like Ainge is also fine with running it back one more year.

I don't see it as writing on the wall, so much as whispers in the wind. And the voices aren't all saying the same thing.

Green and Rondo?

Presumably.  Clearly Rondo, since PP and KG would agree with that.  And the way Green played the last 1/4 of the season, he's certainly at least on the cusp of surpassing Pierce.

It would be even better of they were the 4th and 5th best players, however.

Re: Report: Pierce expects to be traded or released
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2013, 10:51:10 PM »

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Ainge has also recently said that if Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett are a team's 2nd and 3rd best players, or 3rd and 4th best players, that it's a "really, really special" team.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/05/12/this-summer-may-danny-ainge-most-critical-with-celtics/ydUo8geFXRarAu6THDgMpM/story.html

By those comments, it sounds like Ainge is also fine with running it back one more year.

I don't see it as writing on the wall, so much as whispers in the wind. And the voices aren't all saying the same thing.

Green and Rondo?

Presumably.  Clearly Rondo, since PP and KG would agree with that.  And the way Green played the last 1/4 of the season, he's certainly at least on the cusp of surpassing Pierce.

It would be even better of they were the 4th and 5th best players, however.

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Re: Report: Pierce expects to be traded or released
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2013, 11:17:04 PM »

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I don't see any reason to doubt that Pierce feels this way or that people in his personal circle (his agent, likely) feel this way.  The question is: how good is Paul Pierce at figuring out what Danny Ainge is thinking?
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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2013, 11:22:15 PM »

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Re: Report: Pierce expects to be traded or released
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2013, 11:36:53 PM »

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Re: Report: Pierce expects to be traded or released
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2013, 11:38:28 PM »

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Is it possible to skip this complicated waiver-free agency-re-sign route by sitting down with Pierce to agree what part of the unguaranteed 10.3 million portion of his salary he can do without for the team?
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Re: Report: Pierce expects to be traded or released
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2013, 11:47:43 PM »

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I am skeptical at best that Pierce would announce this on his facebook page, not his facebook fan page but his "personal" facebook page. This page is most assuredly not run by Paul Pierce or anyone who knows him.

https://www.facebook.com/paul.pierce.35325074 judge for yourself though. I wish facebook was verified like twitter.
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Re: Report: Pierce expects to be traded or released
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2013, 11:53:36 PM »

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Is it possible to skip this complicated waiver-free agency-re-sign route by sitting down with Pierce to agree what part of the unguaranteed 10.3 million portion of his salary he can do without for the team?

Unfortunately, no.

Re: Report: Pierce expects to be traded or released
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2013, 11:58:37 PM »

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I am skeptical at best that Pierce would announce this on his facebook page, not his facebook fan page but his "personal" facebook page. This page is most assuredly not run by Paul Pierce or anyone who knows him.

https://www.facebook.com/paul.pierce.35325074 judge for yourself though. I wish facebook was verified like twitter.

It's a fake (see last post from this thread) http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=64905.0