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Doc:Ray Allen is the starter
« on: April 03, 2012, 02:55:20 PM »

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#CelticsTalk: Doc Rivers says #Celtics Ray Allen did practice today. If he plays tomorrow vs #Spurs, Doc said he will start.

http://twitter.com/#!/SherrodbCSN/status/187218842295091200

As long as Bradley gets 25+ mins a games I am fine with it .

Re: Doc:Ray Allen is the starter
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2012, 03:08:45 PM »

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just like i said if this team starts losing again, i know who to blame. it was not only offense and 3 point shooting that the starting line up needed it was also defense on opposing SG's which ray has not really looked all that interested in playing defense this season,




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ezeIuffCKw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y46qnkn_Hc0

this is what would've happened this past sunday if ray started

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Re: Doc:Ray Allen is the starter
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2012, 03:14:29 PM »

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It's no surprise really, if we want to go anywhere we need a motivated and in rhythm Ray. You don't yank him as a starter because of injury. Now if we don't play well and things start not looking good, you then ask Ray to come off the bench for a better fit and continuity to how we were playing. I'm sure he wouldn't mind that way. You got to give him a shot.
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Re: Doc:Ray Allen is the starter
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2012, 03:14:59 PM »

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Thank God for that, at least.  Never can trust Doc with these rotation decisions

Re: Doc:Ray Allen is the starter
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2012, 03:24:52 PM »

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just like i said if this team starts losing again, i know who to blame. it was not only offense and 3 point shooting that the starting line up needed it was also defense on opposing SG's which ray has not really looked all that interested in playing defense this season,




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ezeIuffCKw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y46qnkn_Hc0

this is what would've happened this past sunday if ray started

^



-3 tommy points for you

opposing shooting guards have been averaging 13 points a game on 42% shooting or something like that.

I know people want to blame and praise the new guy...but giving it to such small sample size against some inferior competition and beating an already faltering Miami Heat team is down right funny

And even if i am partial to Ray Allen, we all know jumping to conclusions on Celticsblog is the norm, and flip flopping, mostly everyone is bipolar

Rondo and Pierce could stink tonight and Ray can have a 22 point game and people will figure out a way to blame him. He has been the scapegoat for his bad stretches but also for other players bad stretches

Re: Doc:Ray Allen is the starter
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2012, 03:26:03 PM »

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just like i said if this team starts losing again, i know who to blame. it was not only offense and 3 point shooting that the starting line up needed it was also defense on opposing SG's which ray has not really looked all that interested in playing defense this season,




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ezeIuffCKw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y46qnkn_Hc0

this is what would've happened this past sunday if ray started

^



-3 tommy points for you

opposing shooting guards have been averaging 13 points a game on 42% shooting or something like that.

I know people want to blame and praise the new guy...but giving it to such small sample size against some inferior competition and beating an already faltering Miami Heat team is down right funny

And even if i am partial to Ray Allen, we all know jumping to conclusions on Celticsblog is the norm, and flip flopping, mostly everyone is bipolar

Rondo and Pierce could stink tonight and Ray can have a 22 point game and people will figure out a way to blame him. He has been the scapegoat for his bad stretches but also for other players bad stretches

TP for a well-thought out post.  Fans are so funny with their short-term memories

Re: Doc:Ray Allen is the starter
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2012, 03:26:41 PM »

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just like i said if this team starts losing again, i know who to blame. it was not only offense and 3 point shooting that the starting line up needed it was also defense on opposing SG's which ray has not really looked all that interested in playing defense this season,




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ezeIuffCKw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y46qnkn_Hc0

this is what would've happened this past sunday if ray started

^



-3 tommy points for you

opposing shooting guards have been averaging 13 points a game on 42% shooting or something like that.

I know people want to blame and praise the new guy...but giving it to such small sample size against some inferior competition and beating an already faltering Miami Heat team is down right funny

And even if i am partial to Ray Allen, we all know jumping to conclusions on Celticsblog is the norm, and flip flopping, mostly everyone is bipolar

Rondo and Pierce could stink tonight and Ray can have a 22 point game and people will figure out a way to blame him. He has been the scapegoat for his bad stretches but also for other players bad stretches
Is that you Ray??!

LOL
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Re: Doc:Ray Allen is the starter
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2012, 03:31:35 PM »

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just like i said if this team starts losing again, i know who to blame. it was not only offense and 3 point shooting that the starting line up needed it was also defense on opposing SG's which ray has not really looked all that interested in playing defense this season,




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ezeIuffCKw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y46qnkn_Hc0

this is what would've happened this past sunday if ray started

^



-3 tommy points for you

opposing shooting guards have been averaging 13 points a game on 42% shooting or something like that.

I know people want to blame and praise the new guy...but giving it to such small sample size against some inferior competition and beating an already faltering Miami Heat team is down right funny

And even if i am partial to Ray Allen, we all know jumping to conclusions on Celticsblog is the norm, and flip flopping, mostly everyone is bipolar

Rondo and Pierce could stink tonight and Ray can have a 22 point game and people will figure out a way to blame him. He has been the scapegoat for his bad stretches but also for other players bad stretches
Is that you Ray??!

LOL

lol i need to change my screename.

All im saying is its an unfair assessment that Ray is the problem and Bradley is the answer.


Its fine right now when were winning games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, i can see Bradley getting exposed...Wade might have been bad, but the heat are not exactly on fire right now.

Again all im saying is its unfair to blame the losing on Ray and Praise the winning entirely on Bradley which seems what people are doing.

Re: Doc:Ray Allen is the starter
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2012, 03:39:13 PM »

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just like i said if this team starts losing again, i know who to blame. it was not only offense and 3 point shooting that the starting line up needed it was also defense on opposing SG's which ray has not really looked all that interested in playing defense this season,




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ezeIuffCKw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y46qnkn_Hc0

this is what would've happened this past sunday if ray started

^



-3 tommy points for you

opposing shooting guards have been averaging 13 points a game on 42% shooting or something like that.

I know people want to blame and praise the new guy...but giving it to such small sample size against some inferior competition and beating an already faltering Miami Heat team is down right funny

And even if i am partial to Ray Allen, we all know jumping to conclusions on Celticsblog is the norm, and flip flopping, mostly everyone is bipolar

Rondo and Pierce could stink tonight and Ray can have a 22 point game and people will figure out a way to blame him. He has been the scapegoat for his bad stretches but also for other players bad stretches

i love ray it's unbelievable that he can be this good at his age, but my point is 3 vets in the starting line up does this team bad more than good against elite teams, it's better with rondo and bradley that's a combo at the 1 & 2 that can scare alot of teams these past games was a wake up call that when ray & pietrus are healthy our bench would be scary, and let's not forget dooling and greg playing great.

Re: Doc:Ray Allen is the starter
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2012, 03:47:44 PM »

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just like i said if this team starts losing again, i know who to blame. it was not only offense and 3 point shooting that the starting line up needed it was also defense on opposing SG's which ray has not really looked all that interested in playing defense this season,




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ezeIuffCKw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y46qnkn_Hc0

this is what would've happened this past sunday if ray started

^



-3 tommy points for you

opposing shooting guards have been averaging 13 points a game on 42% shooting or something like that.

I know people want to blame and praise the new guy...but giving it to such small sample size against some inferior competition and beating an already faltering Miami Heat team is down right funny

And even if i am partial to Ray Allen, we all know jumping to conclusions on Celticsblog is the norm, and flip flopping, mostly everyone is bipolar

Rondo and Pierce could stink tonight and Ray can have a 22 point game and people will figure out a way to blame him. He has been the scapegoat for his bad stretches but also for other players bad stretches
Is that you Ray??!

LOL

lol i need to change my screename.

All im saying is its an unfair assessment that Ray is the problem and Bradley is the answer.


Its fine right now when were winning games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, i can see Bradley getting exposed...Wade might have been bad, but the heat are not exactly on fire right now.

Again all im saying is its unfair to blame the losing on Ray and Praise the winning entirely on Bradley which seems what people are doing.
I agree see the "Old and Slow" thread but do see both sides. KG and more importantly Rondo seem to really like AB in the starting lineup though, from postgames seems Rondo wants to keep it going.

If you think about it how do you want to start games jacking up 3's or getting to the paint? AB gets his right at the rim.
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Re: Doc:Ray Allen is the starter
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2012, 03:48:12 PM »

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just like i said if this team starts losing again, i know who to blame. it was not only offense and 3 point shooting that the starting line up needed it was also defense on opposing SG's which ray has not really looked all that interested in playing defense this season,




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ezeIuffCKw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y46qnkn_Hc0

this is what would've happened this past sunday if ray started

^



-3 tommy points for you

opposing shooting guards have been averaging 13 points a game on 42% shooting or something like that.

I know people want to blame and praise the new guy...but giving it to such small sample size against some inferior competition and beating an already faltering Miami Heat team is down right funny

And even if i am partial to Ray Allen, we all know jumping to conclusions on Celticsblog is the norm, and flip flopping, mostly everyone is bipolar

Rondo and Pierce could stink tonight and Ray can have a 22 point game and people will figure out a way to blame him. He has been the scapegoat for his bad stretches but also for other players bad stretches

i love ray it's unbelievable that he can be this good at his age, but my point is 3 vets in the starting line up does this team bad more than good against elite teams, it's better with rondo and bradley that's a combo at the 1 & 2 that can scare alot of teams these past games was a wake up call that when ray & pietrus are healthy our bench would be scary, and let's not forget dooling and greg playing great.

i love what bradley is doing , and as fans we like what we are seeing and want it to continue, but its just not enough to switch it up.

Hes undersized and its not like hes lighting the house on fire with his offense,
hes scored on lazy defensive plays (maybe because they dont think he can get it done) , We all know how Wade is a lazy defender until he actually tries. Weve seen Ray Allen light the heat up multiple times, and if you look at the numbers Ray has torched the heat more than any other celtic player and its not even close.

What i love is that Bradley can come in and put pressure on wade and pretty much anybody on the court under 6'5.

But i cannot see Bradley winning playoff games and games where teams bog down on him and take him seriously. I just dont see it. Maybe im wrong, but ive seen it time in and time again in this same type of situation. I saw it in Seattle with Ray where Flip Murray was playing amazing and they won 6 games in a row and people questioned Ray, but eventually the team came back down to earth and needed ray back in playing big minutes.

This injury seems like a blessing becuase it helped bradley become the player we NEED. Now at least if Ray does really hurt the team, they can go to bradley.

Re: Doc:Ray Allen is the starter
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2012, 03:50:04 PM »

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There are still 13 games left and this will play itself out over that span.

I trust that Doc's decision is based on a lot more info than I have.  My gut is that I'd like to see AB continue as starter, but Doc knows his players.  I am sure AB will see the floor plenty.

Re: Doc:Ray Allen is the starter
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2012, 03:51:02 PM »

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just like i said if this team starts losing again, i know who to blame. it was not only offense and 3 point shooting that the starting line up needed it was also defense on opposing SG's which ray has not really looked all that interested in playing defense this season,




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ezeIuffCKw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y46qnkn_Hc0

this is what would've happened this past sunday if ray started

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-3 tommy points for you

opposing shooting guards have been averaging 13 points a game on 42% shooting or something like that.

I know people want to blame and praise the new guy...but giving it to such small sample size against some inferior competition and beating an already faltering Miami Heat team is down right funny

And even if i am partial to Ray Allen, we all know jumping to conclusions on Celticsblog is the norm, and flip flopping, mostly everyone is bipolar

Rondo and Pierce could stink tonight and Ray can have a 22 point game and people will figure out a way to blame him. He has been the scapegoat for his bad stretches but also for other players bad stretches
Is that you Ray??!

LOL

lol i need to change my screename.

All im saying is its an unfair assessment that Ray is the problem and Bradley is the answer.


Its fine right now when were winning games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, i can see Bradley getting exposed...Wade might have been bad, but the heat are not exactly on fire right now.

Again all im saying is its unfair to blame the losing on Ray and Praise the winning entirely on Bradley which seems what people are doing.
I agree see the "Old and Slow" thread but do see both sides. KG and more importantly Rondo seem to really like AB in the starting lineup though, from postgames seems Rondo wants to keep it going.

If you think about it how do you want to start games jacking up 3's or getting to the paint? AB gets his right at the rim.

See thats something I dont know and you dont know. BUT if it is true, then it is only right to keep AB in the lineup. We want Rondo to be comfortable, and if having AB on the court is it then its right move. I will definently agree there.

Re: Doc:Ray Allen is the starter
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2012, 04:11:42 PM »

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