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Re: Time to change the starters
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2018, 11:46:46 PM »

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No sorry I don't see assists. I see guys going one on one and then missed shots. I get it you cant get an assist with a missed shot, that's easy. I'm talking about getting the team into better shots. Kyrie is a shoot first PG.

We're missing shots because no one wants to drive or take midrange shots. Everyone is trying to get 5 pt baskets.
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Re: Time to change the starters
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2018, 11:57:13 PM »

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Hayward was sitting at the end of the game.  They're better without him right now.  I hope he volunteers to come off the bench until he gets his groove back and makes the decision easier for Brad.

Re: Time to change the starters
« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2018, 01:41:56 AM »

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It's not a panic move but more of a move to bring Kyrie and Hayward up to speed. You're paying these guys big money, let them earn it for now.

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If Stevens goes to Brown and Tatum at the same time it may make for a smoother transition. His reasoning can be to get Irving and Hayward back into their mentality of being the #1 and #2 scorers. Then over time, he can bring Brown and Tatum back into the starting unit.

I just think it's hard for these two coming back from injury to get back in stride when their shots are being split up. It will make all four of them be more assertive with the first and second units. Brown and Tatum would be the go-to guys on the second unit. Stevens can still finish the game with all of them.

I would go with Irving, Smart, Horford, Tatum, and Baynes.

That makes us much more physical to start.

Re: Time to change the starters
« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2018, 01:54:51 AM »

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Hayward was sitting at the end of the game.  They're better without him right now.  I hope he volunteers to come off the bench until he gets his groove back and makes the decision easier for Brad.

Morris hit the shot to send to overtime AND Hayward was at 25 minutes already.


Yeah, I think Brad is going to bring him off the bench moving forward. And they are gonna send Tatum to Maine.
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Re: Time to change the starters
« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2018, 08:01:11 AM »

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No sorry I don't see assists. I see guys going one on one and then missed shots. I get it you cant get an assist with a missed shot, that's easy. I'm talking about getting the team into better shots. Kyrie is a shoot first PG.

We're missing shots because no one wants to drive or take midrange shots. Everyone is trying to get 5 pt baskets.
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Nope, Kyrie did what he's suppose to do...close the game. That's the way the games should finish. I stick by my comments because most teams will close them out if they play like that for 3 and a half quarters.

Re: Time to change the starters
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2018, 09:24:09 PM »

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Anyone still want to question why I originally said change the starters? They get in these deep holes and then it's a uphill battle from there.

It's time to have that talk Brad. Tatum and/or Brown are the ones to change for now. Baynes and Smart in. Let Hayward figure it out in his normal role of a primary scorer. He needs that self confidence reinforced. Brown and Tatum can light up the second unit.

Re: Time to change the starters
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2018, 09:38:07 PM »

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Anyone still want to question why I originally said change the starters? They get in these deep holes and then it's a uphill battle from there.

It's time to have that talk Brad. Tatum and/or Brown are the ones to change for now. Baynes and Smart in. Let Hayward figure it out in his normal role of a primary scorer. He needs that self confidence reinforced. Brown and Tatum can light up the second unit.
I wouldn't start Smart and Baynes. Too many non-shooters. I'd rather start Morris than Smart, as it's a like for like swap
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Re: Time to change the starters
« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2018, 09:57:44 PM »

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Forget going more offense, if that was the case there shouldn't be a change. We need more defense to establish and dictate the game. The objective is to get Kyrie and Hayward back to being relied upon and have defense to stay in early. Shots will eventually fall and it helps our bench.

Re: Time to change the starters
« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2018, 10:01:32 PM »

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We are playing like a West Coast team and not a East Coast team. We've turned into a soft, jump shooting team.

Re: Time to change the starters
« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2018, 10:17:16 PM »

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We are playing like a West Coast team and not a East Coast team. We've turned into a soft, jump shooting team.
We're barely playing like an NBA team ;)
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Re: Time to change the starters
« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2018, 10:26:11 PM »

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I've been saying basically all season that Brown should come off the bench with Smart starting so I'd do that.  Against the teams like Detroit I'd start Baynes over Smart
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Re: Time to change the starters
« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2018, 10:28:07 PM »

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Last thing this team needs is to be shooting on a crooked rim for a half.

Re: Time to change the starters
« Reply #42 on: November 11, 2018, 10:28:18 PM »

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We may be a sub-500 team by the end of the week :-\

Re: Time to change the starters
« Reply #43 on: November 11, 2018, 11:57:54 PM »

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I'm sorry but if Kyrie is going to run this offense, he's responsible for getting the team good shots down the stretch, not chuck it up every chance he gets. When he's hot, he should be the closer, but tonight Tatum had it going and barely touched it down the stretch.

Re: Time to change the starters
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2018, 12:36:56 AM »

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I tired of seeing big slow guys dunking and shooting layups because our front line is so small.