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Perfect Cousins Trade idea.
« on: December 30, 2012, 12:48:29 AM »

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 Out Jeff Green, Courtney Lee, Brandon Bass. First Rounder.

 In Salmons terrible contract, Garcia bad contract. D.M.C. Boom or bust in Boston.

Re: Perfect Cousins Trade idea.
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2012, 12:51:08 AM »

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I'd switch out Lee for Terry but that works for me.

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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2012, 12:51:48 AM »

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  • We may as well put Tyrion in at center.
Garcia's contract is expiring so it's not exactly bad.
I like Marcus Smart

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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2012, 12:51:54 AM »

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and why would the Kings want to do this trade? No Sullinger, no Bradley, no deal.

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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2012, 12:54:32 AM »

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 Out Jeff Green, Courtney Lee, Brandon Bass. First Rounder.

 In Salmons terrible contract, Garcia bad contract. D.M.C. Boom or bust in Boston.

Sactown isn't going to want three underperforming underachieving celtics for a potential Zach Randolph. Makes no sense for them.

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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2012, 12:54:49 AM »

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and why would the Kings want to do this trade? No Sullinger, no Bradley, no deal.

Well if you take Jeff Green's points tonight (6) and multiply it by 6 and subtract by 2, that would be 34 and leading the league. 34 ppg is a lot. Very enticing.
I like Marcus Smart

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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2012, 12:56:30 AM »

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 Out Jeff Green, Courtney Lee, Brandon Bass. First Rounder.

 In Salmons terrible contract, Garcia bad contract. D.M.C. Boom or bust in Boston.

Sactown isn't going to want three underperforming underachieving celtics for a potential Zach Randolph. Makes no sense for them.

yep, yet another "trade our garbage for an all-star" celticsblog proposal

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He might not want to be here , it an'y looking really so sweet right now is it?

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I'd switch out Lee for Terry but that works for me.
Well, Terry got that shamrock tattoo, he can stay.

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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2012, 01:17:25 AM »

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 Lets just say for example that the starting five is

 J Thompson
 Brandon Bass
 Jeff Green
 C Lee
 Tyreke Evans

 What would the three Celtics averages bee if they all played 30MPG

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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2012, 02:02:46 AM »

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 Lets just say for example that the starting five is

 J Thompson
 Brandon Bass
 Jeff Green
 C Lee
 Tyreke Evans

 What would the three Celtics averages bee if they all played 30MPG
That team would struggle to win 30 games. Be one of the worst defensive teams in the league.

Courtney Lee and Brandon Bass would be around their career numbers relative to 30 minutes playing time a night. Jeff Green would probably get more shot attempts than he has previously so I would expect his scoring to increase but his scoring efficiency to decline because I don't think he has the skill-level to handle that added responsibility offensively.

Tyreke Evans would be far and away the best player on the team.

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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2012, 02:08:26 AM »

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Maybe a three team trade?

Bos:  Out-J.Green, A.Bradley, J.Sullinger 
      In-D.Cousins & J.Salmons

Sac:  Out-D.Cousins, T.Evans & J.Salmons
      In-A.Jefferson, J.Green & A.Bradley

Utah: Out-A.Jefferson
      In-T.Evans & Sullinger

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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2012, 02:09:24 AM »

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 My question was what would they average.

 My guess

 Thompson 10ppg 8rpg
 Bass     13    6.5
 J Green  16.8  6.0
 C Lee    14.2  3.0
 T Evans  23.2  5.0

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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2012, 02:24:51 AM »

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Maybe a three team trade?

Bos:  Out-J.Green, A.Bradley, J.Sullinger 
      In-D.Cousins & J.Salmons

Sac:  Out-D.Cousins, T.Evans & J.Salmons
      In-A.Jefferson, J.Green & A.Bradley

Utah: Out-A.Jefferson
      In-T.Evans & Sullinger

I think this trade is interesting but here is where I find fault.

The Jazz send out 15M in salary and take back only 6.6M. I'm not a CBA expert but I remember something about 150% of the outgoing value...someone in the know could clarify for sure.

The other thing is I'm not sure SAC would want to send out their 2 best players for a center at the end or even near the end of his prime and an undersized 2-guard, tenacious as he may be. Seems to me that they have a center at the beginning of his prime and a very capable 2-guard now. They just need some leadership.

Utah would probably do your trade instantly. Not sure if Danny would though. Seems like Green, AB and Sully are all the chips we have at this point. Maybe for Evans and Cousins he might go all in:

BOS receives Evans/Cousins
SAC receives Jefferson/Bradley
UTA receives Green/Sully/Melo

That is pretty good value if Jefferson isn't planning on staying in Utah. I still don't think SAC parts with both Cousins and Evans unless a young top 20 player is involved. The only player in that category on any of these teams is Rondo.

I really think the Cousins idea is a long shot. Danny probably won't part with all of our young assets on a deal for Cousins only and the Kings might not trade Cousins even if Ainge did. Putting Evans in the middle is just making matters worse I'd say.

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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2012, 02:38:07 AM »

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Maybe a three team trade?

Bos:  Out-J.Green, A.Bradley, J.Sullinger 
      In-D.Cousins & J.Salmons

Sac:  Out-D.Cousins, T.Evans & J.Salmons
      In-A.Jefferson, J.Green & A.Bradley

Utah: Out-A.Jefferson
      In-T.Evans & Sullinger

I think this trade is interesting but here is where I find fault.

The Jazz send out 15M in salary and take back only 6.6M. I'm not a CBA expert but I remember something about 150% of the outgoing value...someone in the know could clarify for sure.

The other thing is I'm not sure SAC would want to send out their 2 best players for a center at the end or even near the end of his prime and an undersized 2-guard, tenacious as he may be. Seems to me that they have a center at the beginning of his prime and a very capable 2-guard now. They just need some leadership.

Utah would probably do your trade instantly. Not sure if Danny would though. Seems like Green, AB and Sully are all the chips we have at this point. Maybe for Evans and Cousins he might go all in:

BOS receives Evans/Cousins
SAC receives Jefferson/Bradley
UTA receives Green/Sully/Melo

That is pretty good value if Jefferson isn't planning on staying in Utah. I still don't think SAC parts with both Cousins and Evans unless a young top 20 player is involved. The only player in that category on any of these teams is Rondo.

I really think the Cousins idea is a long shot. Danny probably won't part with all of our young assets on a deal for Cousins only and the Kings might not trade Cousins even if Ainge did. Putting Evans in the middle is just making matters worse I'd say.

It would be a risky move, but I'd do the deal (from the C's end).  I think Sacramento might do the deal, as long as Jefferson agreed to an extension and recieved some picks in the deal (from both Bos and Utah).