The truth hurts. The truth hurts.
this is the easy and short answer to that article. but i'm going to elaborate on it.
Anyone not looking at this article objectively is just lying to themselves. Everything they said about Smart is true and even agree with "would have enjoyed superstar hype had he left college in 2013" as that was a weak draft if I recall.
Sullinger is a good player, if he puts up those big games consistently and becomes a 20 - 10 guy or better then obviously the article will be wrong. but I just don't see him being that because of his size and falling in love with the 3. still a good player but probably not an All-Star. Again anyone not seeing this is just lying to themselves.
Olynyk, if his offense was actually comparable to Dirk's, his defensive issues wouldn't be so glaring. he may score 20 pts. but he's probably giving up 25-30. he's not a center and defensively I'm struggling to see a position he can defend. so he either has to improve his defense dramatically or become a guy that averages 26 a game for us to invest the time in. neither of those things are happening this yr.
I think this article is being fair when it comes to this season and that's what it's about - this season.
No, it's not. The author is clearly misinformed. He said Bradley doesn't like to shoot and that Sullinger is an undersized C. If he knew anything about the Celtics, he'd know these two things are just completely false. Honestly it's just laughable. It's easy to be negative about a team that is rebuilding, but things aren't nearly as bad as that article makes things seem.
Plus, any dude that tries to hype up the Pitino era relative to this era will get a weird look from me. That's just ridiculous.
umm no where in that article does the writer say Avery Bradley can't shoot. he addresses the back-court as a whole:
"The backcourt is a more exciting adventure, a talented bunch terminally burdened by asterisks. The team’s three best guards -- Rondo, Smart and defensive wiz Avery Bradley -- are the most shooting-averse trio since the Three Amigos (the actual ones). "
Avery Bradley gets lumped in with Rondo and Smart(who are not good shooters) sure, but looking at AB's offensive game objectively I don't think anyone should be calling him a shooter just yet.
Neither the original article nor the follow-up post you're misinterpreting said anything about shooting ability. The article said "shooting-averse," which the poster above you correctly took to mean "doesn't like to shoot."
I can't believe anyone who's been following the Celtics closely for the last year would use that term to describe Bradley. He had one of the highest usage rates on the team last year, and in preseason is second only to noted gunner Thornton in shots per minute.
On this board I've seen the term "chucker" used more often over the last year than I've heard people describe any reluctance on his part to shoot.
Exactly. Thanks for clarifying that.
Anyway, now that GreenWarrior brought up shooting ability, though, I gotta say I'm not sure what it would take for him/her to believe he's a good shooter. Once a guy hits 40% from 3PT line in a season with high volume, he should automatically be regarded as a good shooter.
The truth hurts. The truth hurts.
this is the easy and short answer to that article. but i'm going to elaborate on it.
Anyone not looking at this article objectively is just lying to themselves. Everything they said about Smart is true and even agree with "would have enjoyed superstar hype had he left college in 2013" as that was a weak draft if I recall.
Sullinger is a good player, if he puts up those big games consistently and becomes a 20 - 10 guy or better then obviously the article will be wrong. but I just don't see him being that because of his size and falling in love with the 3. still a good player but probably not an All-Star. Again anyone not seeing this is just lying to themselves.
Olynyk, if his offense was actually comparable to Dirk's, his defensive issues wouldn't be so glaring. he may score 20 pts. but he's probably giving up 25-30. he's not a center and defensively I'm struggling to see a position he can defend. so he either has to improve his defense dramatically or become a guy that averages 26 a game for us to invest the time in. neither of those things are happening this yr.
I think this article is being fair when it comes to this season and that's what it's about - this season.
No, it's not. The author is clearly misinformed. He said Bradley doesn't like to shoot and that Sullinger is an undersized C. If he knew anything about the Celtics, he'd know these two things are just completely false. Honestly it's just laughable. It's easy to be negative about a team that is rebuilding, but things aren't nearly as bad as that article makes things seem.
Plus, any dude that tries to hype up the Pitino era relative to this era will get a weird look from me. That's just ridiculous.
umm no where in that article does the writer say Avery Bradley can't shoot. he addresses the back-court as a whole:
"The backcourt is a more exciting adventure, a talented bunch terminally burdened by asterisks. The team’s three best guards -- Rondo, Smart and defensive wiz Avery Bradley -- are the most shooting-averse trio since the Three Amigos (the actual ones). "
Avery Bradley gets lumped in with Rondo and Smart(who are not good shooters) sure, but looking at AB's offensive game objectively I don't think anyone should be calling him a shooter just yet.
And if you don't acknowledge that Sullinger is an undersized center you'll be even more shocked to understand that even for a power forward he's undersized.
But one thing I think is getting overlooked or misunderstood in this article is the fact that this article is only about this season, it doesn't say these players won't be good or get better. right now they aren't though. that's an honest evaluation imo.
I just think most C's fans that read this article chose to read these statements:
"Center Jared Sullinger has had a nice preseason, drawing particular praise for his impressive 3-point shooting, but no one aside from the most shamrock-goggled Celtics fan really believes the undersized Sullinger has the makings of a star player"
"The only sure thing is the 2014-15 Celtics are going to be a bad team, and probably a very bad team at that. Worse, they'll be a bad team without recourse to fanciful hope or the illusion of direction. They probably won't be the worst team the franchise has ever put out on the court, but in all honesty, they often feel that way, particularly to those who've grown accustomed to winning, or even just relevance. Those people include only its best player, its front office and its entire fan base. "
And ignore the truth of the article.
Sorry, but he said Bradley doesn't like to shoot. That's just wrong. And to your point that Bradley still has to prove he is a good shooter, I completely disagree. There are plenty of statistics that do also.
Also, I never disagreed with the point that Sully was an undersized center. He would be an undersized center if he actually played center. I was vague about what was misleading. I disagree that Sully is a center at all. The author has no idea that Sully is going to primarily play his minutes at PF this year injuries withstanding. Also, a guy who is 6'9" in shoes and 250+ is not undersized for PF. You are wrong about that.
It's clear, to me, that he probably barely watched last season. He wouldn't be saying that about Bradley, and to be honest calling Smart shooting-averse is a little silly also. Rondo is the only one who doesn't like to shoot. Bradley and Smart love to shoot. Bradley obviously more willing and probably rightfully so considering his jumpshooting percentage. He also wouldn't be calling Sullinger an undersized center because it's clear to me and everyone else paying any attention to the Celtics, that the C's
and Sullinger himself want him to be a PF ideally.
There is too much incorrect information in this article for me to take it completely seriously. His article isn't validated because he is right in one or two sentences.