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Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #270 on: July 03, 2018, 01:38:51 PM »

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Quote from: Fafnir on July 03, 2018, 11:22:46 AM
I'm not surprised Josh Smith is a solid pick up basketball player. He always had the talent and skills, just didn't ever play a good team game within them once his athleticism wasn't out of this world.

The league trending smaller and quicker at the PF also hurt him, less of an advantage.

He would be a good small ball center in CBS system.
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Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #271 on: July 03, 2018, 02:02:07 PM »

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Quote from: liam on July 03, 2018, 01:38:51 PM
Quote from: Fafnir on July 03, 2018, 11:22:46 AM
I'm not surprised Josh Smith is a solid pick up basketball player. He always had the talent and skills, just didn't ever play a good team game within them once his athleticism wasn't out of this world.

The league trending smaller and quicker at the PF also hurt him, less of an advantage.

He would be a good small ball center in CBS system.
No. He couldn't even earn minutes with NOP last year after being out of the league. His days of being a versatile athletic big are over and he never picked up how to play team basketball at a high level to stay in the league.

He's done.
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Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #272 on: July 03, 2018, 02:08:41 PM »

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Quote from: Fafnir on July 03, 2018, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: liam on July 03, 2018, 01:38:51 PM
Quote from: Fafnir on July 03, 2018, 11:22:46 AM
I'm not surprised Josh Smith is a solid pick up basketball player. He always had the talent and skills, just didn't ever play a good team game within them once his athleticism wasn't out of this world.

The league trending smaller and quicker at the PF also hurt him, less of an advantage.

He would be a good small ball center in CBS system.
No. He couldn't even earn minutes with NOP last year after being out of the league. His days of being a versatile athletic big are over and he never picked up how to play team basketball at a high level to stay in the league.

He's done.

Fair enough but if anyone could get something out of him it would be Brad and Horford ( former teamamte...)
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Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #273 on: July 03, 2018, 04:18:51 PM »

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« Reply #274 on: July 03, 2018, 04:32:21 PM »

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Quote from: Fafnir on July 03, 2018, 11:22:46 AM
I'm not surprised Josh Smith is a solid pick up basketball player. He always had the talent and skills, just didn't ever play a good team game within them once his athleticism wasn't out of this world.

The league trending smaller and quicker at the PF also hurt him, less of an advantage.

Funny thing is his skill set could be valuable or useful... If he learned how to stop taking so many 3's, and focusing on playing smart basketball.
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« Reply #275 on: July 03, 2018, 04:36:46 PM »

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Quote from: Monkhouse on July 03, 2018, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: Fafnir on July 03, 2018, 11:22:46 AM
I'm not surprised Josh Smith is a solid pick up basketball player. He always had the talent and skills, just didn't ever play a good team game within them once his athleticism wasn't out of this world.

The league trending smaller and quicker at the PF also hurt him, less of an advantage.

Funny thing is his skill set could be valuable or useful... If he learned how to stop taking so many 3's, and focusing on playing smart basketball.
I would argue that he needed to learn how to make 3’s at a higher rate, not stop taking them.  If he had, he would have fit in nicely in today’s NBA and could have had a longer career.
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« Reply #276 on: July 03, 2018, 04:39:58 PM »

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Quote from: Surferdad on July 03, 2018, 04:36:46 PM
Quote from: Monkhouse on July 03, 2018, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: Fafnir on July 03, 2018, 11:22:46 AM
I'm not surprised Josh Smith is a solid pick up basketball player. He always had the talent and skills, just didn't ever play a good team game within them once his athleticism wasn't out of this world.

The league trending smaller and quicker at the PF also hurt him, less of an advantage.

Funny thing is his skill set could be valuable or useful... If he learned how to stop taking so many 3's, and focusing on playing smart basketball.
I would argue that he needed to learn how to make 3’s at a higher rate, not stop taking them.  If he had, he would have fit in nicely in today’s NBA and could have had a longer career.

Well the gist of my point is that he got too trigger happy, and started taking more 3's than necessary which coincided with his terrible 3P %.

But yeah, I agree. His playmaking/defense and under the guidance of a good coach could've resulted in a lengthy career.
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Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #277 on: July 03, 2018, 04:43:08 PM »

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Quote from: Monkhouse on July 03, 2018, 04:39:58 PM
Quote from: Surferdad on July 03, 2018, 04:36:46 PM
Quote from: Monkhouse on July 03, 2018, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: Fafnir on July 03, 2018, 11:22:46 AM
I'm not surprised Josh Smith is a solid pick up basketball player. He always had the talent and skills, just didn't ever play a good team game within them once his athleticism wasn't out of this world.

The league trending smaller and quicker at the PF also hurt him, less of an advantage.

Funny thing is his skill set could be valuable or useful... If he learned how to stop taking so many 3's, and focusing on playing smart basketball.
I would argue that he needed to learn how to make 3’s at a higher rate, not stop taking them.  If he had, he would have fit in nicely in today’s NBA and could have had a longer career.

Well the gist of my point is that he got too trigger happy, and started taking more 3's than necessary which coincided with his terrible 3P %.

But yeah, I agree. His playmaking/defense and under the guidance of a good coach could've resulted in a lengthy career.
Such a waste of talent. Crazy that a guy who had a 7 year spell of averaging 17/8/3.5/2/1.4 and making an All-Defensive team is considered a considerable waste, lol. What could've been
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Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #278 on: July 03, 2018, 05:22:07 PM »

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Is Jimmy Butler on the market? What would it take to get him? Picks and Smart in a sign and trade? Bulter would replace everything Smart does and Butler does more.
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« Reply #279 on: July 03, 2018, 05:59:31 PM »

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« Reply #280 on: July 03, 2018, 06:23:40 PM »

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Quote from: liam on July 03, 2018, 05:22:07 PM
Is Jimmy Butler on the market? What would it take to get him? Picks and Smart in a sign and trade? Bulter would replace everything Smart does and Butler does more.

Butler will never be ok with Smart’s role as sixth man.

And I wouldn’t ant him stunting Brown’s growth, as I think his ceiling may be higher than Butler’s.
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Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #281 on: July 03, 2018, 08:13:54 PM »

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Quote from: GreenEnvy on July 03, 2018, 06:23:40 PM
Quote from: liam on July 03, 2018, 05:22:07 PM
Is Jimmy Butler on the market? What would it take to get him? Picks and Smart in a sign and trade? Bulter would replace everything Smart does and Butler does more.

Butler will never be ok with Smart’s role as sixth man.

And I wouldn’t ant him stunting Brown’s growth, as I think his ceiling may be higher than Butler’s.

Butler would start, I was just saying he's a great defender and hustle player. He's like a super Marcus. I think Jaylen would be the sixth man.
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« Reply #282 on: July 03, 2018, 08:18:27 PM »

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Quote from: liam on July 03, 2018, 05:22:07 PM
Is Jimmy Butler on the market? What would it take to get him? Picks and Smart in a sign and trade? Bulter would replace everything Smart does and Butler does more.
Butler isn't on the market.  The TWolves are going to offer him an extension but of course it is not financially advantageous for him so he wouldn't sign it.  He'll be a free agent next offseason. 
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« Reply #283 on: July 03, 2018, 08:45:49 PM »

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Quote from: tazzmaniac on July 03, 2018, 08:18:27 PM
Quote from: liam on July 03, 2018, 05:22:07 PM
Is Jimmy Butler on the market? What would it take to get him? Picks and Smart in a sign and trade? Bulter would replace everything Smart does and Butler does more.
Butler isn't on the market.  The TWolves are going to offer him an extension but of course it is not financially advantageous for him so he wouldn't sign it.  He'll be a free agent next offseason.
It’s essentially the same situation that Kyrie has. 
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« Reply #284 on: July 03, 2018, 09:34:52 PM »

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