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Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #165 on: July 01, 2018, 08:03:53 AM »

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Why did DeAndre Jordan agree to only 1 year with Mavs? Did Cuban tell him if you want multi-year, no player options? 

Seems owners need to push back harder on that demand. Basically kills value of long term contract, and ownership bears all the risk if guy tanks or is injured.

Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #166 on: July 01, 2018, 08:09:19 AM »

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If we sign Smart without going over tax, we should probably keep Morris until the trade deadline.

Hayward will take a while to get strong. Ditto Kyrie. So should be extra mi utes available. Plus good insurance policy if another injury occurs. I don’t think he had much trade value, at best highly protected 1st round pick, more realistically a 2nd round pick. If he complains due to lack of minutes, trade him later.

Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #167 on: July 01, 2018, 08:25:04 AM »

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If we sign Smart without going over tax, we should probably keep Morris until the trade deadline.

Hayward will take a while to get strong. Ditto Kyrie. So should be extra mi utes available. Plus good insurance policy if another injury occurs. I don’t think he had much trade value, at best highly protected 1st round pick, more realistically a 2nd round pick. If he complains due to lack of minutes, trade him later.
I would keep him the whole year so long as he doesn't ask for a trade which could happen.

Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #168 on: July 01, 2018, 09:39:46 AM »

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Am i the only one worried about lebron in philly with kawhi?

They have to let walk a lot of their guys to sign LeBron.   They will have to trade some to get Kawhi, so no I am not worried.

Belinelli just walked away to go to the Spurs.  Ilyasova went back to the Bucks.   It is already looking worse in Philly.

Lebron may go to LA to play with Cousins.
I really don't expect Lebron to sign with the Sixers.  However, they'd just need to salary dump Bayless to free up the cap space for Lebron.  They'd lose Amir but that isn't a big deal.  The big question would be Redick's willingness to sign for the room exception.  Considering how much Redick liked playing for the Sixers and would really fit well playing with Lebron, I think there is a pretty good chance that he would. 

The Spurs and Bucks stupidly gave multi-year deals to Belinelli and Ilyasova in a very tight cap space year.  Head-scratchingly bad decisions by both teams.  Both of them are easily replaceable and Belinelli's defense makes him a liability in the playoffs.  There are a lot of teams burning through their cap space so there are likely to be some pretty good players available for the Sixers to sign on 1 year deals. 


Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #169 on: July 01, 2018, 09:55:15 AM »

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Who is left for big names?

Lebron
Cousins
?

Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #170 on: July 01, 2018, 09:57:58 AM »

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Why did DeAndre Jordan agree to only 1 year with Mavs? Did Cuban tell him if you want multi-year, no player options? 

Seems owners need to push back harder on that demand. Basically kills value of long term contract, and ownership bears all the risk if guy tanks or is injured.

He signed for the same amount as his player option that he declined.  The Clippers has given him permission to find a trading partner, but ultimately couldn’t come to terms with Dallas on a trade, so that’s what happened there.

Short contracts, overall, benefit the owners.  The revenue split is between 49-51% between players an owners.  This generally assumes that the mean team will spend about 5-7% over the cap.  When a lot of teams have cap room, that means that fewer of them will get to that 5-7% mark, since more of them will find it not possible to spend their cap dollars on players they deem worthy.  This means that owners collectively are likely to get 51% of the split rather than 49%.

For players like DeAndre Jordan, a short contract may work because he’ll get paid when a lot of teams are potential bidders, but on the whole this favors the owners, which is one reason why they pushed for shorter contract lengths in the CBA several years ago.

Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #171 on: July 01, 2018, 10:00:51 AM »

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Who is left for big names?

Lebron
Cousins
?

James
Cousins
Redick

Eveyrthing else has been pretty much decided. James is going to take his time...Redick has to wait on him but he will most likely go back to philly. Philly is going to get shut out of max guys

Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #172 on: July 01, 2018, 10:04:21 AM »

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Isaiah Thomas? Where he going
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #173 on: July 01, 2018, 10:12:48 AM »

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Isaiah Thomas? Where he going

Hope he gets paid.

Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #174 on: July 01, 2018, 10:14:37 AM »

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Isaiah Thomas? Where he going

Hope he gets paid.

Not until next year it seems.

Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #175 on: July 01, 2018, 10:14:57 AM »

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Who is left for big names?

Lebron
Cousins
?

James
Cousins
Redick

Eveyrthing else has been pretty much decided. James is going to take his time...Redick has to wait on him but he will most likely go back to philly. Philly is going to get shut out of max guys
Smart.  He’s restricted, but he’s a big name around here.

Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #176 on: July 01, 2018, 10:24:09 AM »

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Who is left for big names?

Lebron
Cousins
?

Clint Capela

The restricted market is still interesting.

Julius Randle
Aaron Gordon
Marcus Smart
Jabari Paker
Jusuf Nurkic
Zach Lavine

Derrick Favors
J.J. Reddick
Enes Kanter edit: picked up his option
Isaiah Thomas
Tyreke Evans
Fred Vanfleet edit: just resigned in Toronto
Avery Bradley
Kentavious Caldwell Pope(underrated IMO).

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Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #177 on: July 01, 2018, 10:27:49 AM »

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Isaiah Thomas? Where he going

Hope he gets paid.

he won't

I think the most he will get is 8 million per season

prob best for him to sign a one year deal and then try to cash in next season

but time is running out for him for "back up the brinks truck"

Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #178 on: July 01, 2018, 10:35:32 AM »

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Who is left for big names?

Lebron
Cousins
?

Clint Capela

The restricted market is still interesting.

Julius Randle
Aaron Gordon
Marcus Smart
Jabari Paker
Jusuf Nurkic
Zach Lavine

Derrick Favors
J.J. Reddick
Enes Kanter
Isaiah Thomas
Tyreke Evans
Fred Vanfleet
Avery Bradley
Kentavious Caldwell Pope(underrated IMO).
Kanter picked up his 18.6M option.   No lost brain cells on that decision. 

An even tougher than normal offseason for RFAs.  Several could end up signing 1 year deals. 

Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
« Reply #179 on: July 01, 2018, 10:41:09 AM »

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